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Gabby
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posted September 02, 2014 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 3rd house saggy Nemesis sits exact on my saggy Neptune, does that indicate my enemies will get to me mentally in my childhood destroying my ability to think for myself regarding God or trying to spiritually destroy me?

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posted September 02, 2014 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
My 3rd house saggy Nemesis sits exact on my saggy Neptune, does that indicate my enemies will get to me mentally in my childhood destroying my ability to think for myself regarding God or trying to spiritually destroy me?

Actually, I think it indicates a preoccupation with daydreaming, and that "out-there" vibe is what puts off your school friends, perhaps perceiving you as naive. You may have missed some important elementary lessons from not paying enough attention. Young kids especially tend not to have a very good handle on their outer planets.

It could also indicate smothering your own creative flow before it even has a chance to come forward.

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posted September 02, 2014 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blind writer .. Please could you interpret mine. It's conjunct Jupiter exact in cancer, 8th opposite moon.

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posted September 02, 2014 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
Square your MC is definitely a hurdle you must overcome for continued growth, both personally and in your career.

Thanks blind writer.
I am definitely going to be VERY mindful of this from now on.

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posted September 02, 2014 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Blind Writer what if Nemesis is conjunct NN 3rd house Aquarius?

@yellowelevator you can also go to astro.com and look at the natal-Draconic chart comparison for more insight how to how and where ur dealing with nemesis

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posted September 02, 2014 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Blind writer .. Please could you interpret mine. It's conjunct Jupiter exact in cancer, 8th opposite moon.

Cancer in 8H can indicate an impulsive possessiveness, and with JUPITER-NEMESIS, you may unintentionally hoard the things others share with you, perhaps even try claiming them as your own, or being generous with other people's things when you really shouldn't. This can result in fewer people willing to share their resources (including money) with you if this goes unchecked. The 8H also rules sex, and you may overindulge, perhaps desensitizing or unhinging the emotional aspect of the act.

Again, JUPITER is usually a benefic, and in the 8H, can mean fortune/luck in inheritance, and greatness in the sack. But keep a rein on the less responsible and ego-driven parts of JUPITER so you can avoid your own undoing.

NEMESIS opp MOON can be emotional dependencies that only winds up hurting yourself. With MOON in fall, be careful to stay conservative about your emotional/sentimental attachment to belongings.

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posted September 02, 2014 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
Cancer in 8H can indicate an impulsive possessiveness, and with JUPITER-NEMESIS, you may unintentionally hoard the things others share with you, perhaps even try claiming them as your own, or being generous with other people's things when you really shouldn't. This can result in fewer people willing to share their resources (including money) with you if this goes unchecked. The 8H also rules sex, and you may overindulge, perhaps desensitizing or unhinging the emotional aspect of the act.

Again, JUPITER is usually a benefic, and in the 8H, can mean fortune/luck in inheritance, and greatness in the sack. But keep a rein on the less responsible and ego-driven parts of JUPITER so you can avoid your own undoing.

NEMESIS opp MOON can be emotional dependencies that only winds up hurting yourself. With MOON in fall, be careful to stay conservative about your emotional/sentimental attachment to belongings.


Wow .. That all does sound pretty true or relevant at least in the nature of the energies

I am aware of my downfalls and compulsions described but I battle out of them ... Well, was going to say sideways to try describe it - suppose that's the crab - but anyway not really managing it smoothly

Thank you!

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posted September 02, 2014 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Fionapineapple:
Hey Blind Writer what if Nemesis is conjunct NN 3rd house Aquarius?

@yellowelevator you can also go to astro.com and look at the natal-Draconic chart comparison for more insight how to how and where ur dealing with nemesis


Involving the nodes is much more karmic and complicated. You may even have a genuine "nemesis" to deal with.

Since it conjuncts your NN, you may make enemies in your growth, or create any number of unsolvable problems for yourself to suffer through for the sake of experience - but then getting caught up in the process and not actually moving forward. It could even indicate a need to accept a person/entity/circumstance as they are and take the higher road to reach your destined path (should such a karmic entity be present). It can also be an avoidance to progress as you should be, in which NEMESIS lays as your rock-solid roadblock. A true test of spirit. Can you overcome your own weaknesses or not?

SN in 9H indicates a past mastery of philosophical studies, and NN in Aqu 3H indicates a need to take all you've learned and apply an outward look and share your knowledge for the good of many, your neighbors, and perhaps even the learning institution itself. Over-zealousness or impatience may defeat your own purpose, as short-attention spans are sometimes indicated in the 3H.

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posted September 02, 2014 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by florence:
Wow .. That all does sound pretty true or relevant at least in the nature of the energies

I am aware of my downfalls and compulsions described but I battle out of them ... Well, was going to say sideways to try describe it - suppose that's the crab - but anyway not really managing it smoothly

Thank you!


NEMESIS is a smart cookie. If you're self-aware, she's less able to launch her rocks at you. It's important to know our own weak spots, so we can actively improve upon them.

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posted September 02, 2014 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Blind Writer!!! Sounds accurate a mix of all of it actually

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posted September 02, 2014 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coteau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Nemesis is conjunct my MC, the galactic center, Lilith(1181) and asteroid Prey.

It sounds complicated.
Am I seen as an enemy or a prey?

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posted September 02, 2014 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The theory is that where it is placed is where you will have actual enemies.


Not necessarily. More of a rivalry, perhaps. But then my VALENTINE being 1º conjunct natally might be taking off some of that heat. But my Twin and I have definitely had some intense rivalry.

I DO see how we're each other's Achilles' heel. So many things about the other it's been so difficult to accept. Both very solitary people suddenly being THAT connected to another person and in such crazy circumstances. Denial, denial, denial.

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posted September 02, 2014 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by coteau:
My Nemesis is conjunct my MC, the galactic center, Lilith(1181) and asteroid Prey.

It sounds complicated.
Am I seen as an enemy or a prey?


The world sees you as prey, but as prey who put yourself into so-and-so predicament because of your perceived LILITH-like personality traits (sexual aggressiveness, self-serving guile, manipulation, independence-you-can't-tack-me-down). Kind of like "oh, s/he had it coming". Being careless with your LILITH energies can even give you a reputation of "being easy" or a b****. Turning LILITH into a positive force of self-confidence and an outward role model will help bring you toward realizing your ambitions, and projecting yourself as a strong, driven individual.

Trying to place your mark on the world too aggressively, or without pause for the consequences may create a poor reputation that will hang over you like a shroud.

NEMESIS on MC can also indicate your ambitions are too much of a personal focus, you may have problems with respecting authority, or abuse the authority you have, resulting in it getting stripped away.

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posted September 02, 2014 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HAH!

Fate's MARS-PSYCHE is smack on J's NEMESIS. Oh, colour me amused.

And, as you know, Fate's SUN is parallel my NEMESIS, and on his MERC 3º. So, rather wide. But still conjunct my VALENTINE -- wide, again -- 3º.

... Don't look at me like that. It's 3H. I write about it thank you very much. It's kinda close to NEP, too. 7R. Huh.

Guess it's somewhat unavoidable in a respect. But, hey, as a good friend has said, I keep people in my life because they're too complex to accurately simulate. Sounds about right.

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posted September 02, 2014 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GAH.

nNEMESIS conjunct drCHIRON (1º)
nNEMESIS conjunct drTISIPHONE (2º)

ALWAYS with the friggin' TISIPHONE.

His drCHIRON, and my drTISIPHONE. 2º opposite his nVENUS, too. Square my nMOON (0º). Certainly intriguing.

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posted September 02, 2014 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
NEMESIS is a smart cookie. If you're self-aware, she's less able to launch her rocks at you. It's important to know our own weak spots, so we can actively improve upon them.

The self awareness doesn't occur in a very healthy fashion - tips into neurotic behaviour. maybe the nature of the planetary opp which feels very important to me - even with other more obviously difficult aspects - possibly because nemesis sits there. My nessus is thereabouts too I think. But they really make Jupiter work hard I think so hopefully it will be ok


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posted September 02, 2014 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my is nemesis (& IC) conjunct my fathers venus. during the time we lived with him he was abusive towards my mother and occassionally to me. i hated him for many years, i dont anymore but our relationship is still a distant one.

nemesis is opposite my MC...most of my battles have definately occured outside the home haha

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posted September 02, 2014 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Fate's MARS-PSYCHE is smack on J's NEMESIS. Oh, colour me amused.

I think it's more the natal NEMESIS-VENUS opposition that J has. "Fate" just sits there poking at his weakness from the outside, and I bet it chafes like nobody's business. But ultimately, it's J's own problem. He has a bad habit of holding VENUS at arm's length.

As for "Fate", poor guy has MERC-URA double whammy with his NEMESIS. He must have horrible foot-in-mouth syndrome, especially being in the house of friends, money from career, and networking. His career involves MERCURY matters to begin with, so he's on a slippery slope there.

NEMESIS-NEMESIS in synastry could be awful. Able to bring each other down quite easily.

For you, NEPTUNE is your 7R and in 4H. Happy to say you let go of your over-idealized idea of a dream-spouse as well as your fears of permanently leaving home, and accepted things will-be-as-they're-meant-to-be. It was holding you back from the rewarding relationships you now have, as well as the opportunities you have off in Hollyweird.

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I keep people in my life because they're too complex to accurately simulate.

As if I could ever simulate your dramarama, despite my imagination.

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posted September 02, 2014 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
As if I could ever simulate your dramarama, despite my imagination.

What if nemesis is conjunct venus?

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posted September 02, 2014 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What if nemesis is conjunct venus?

NEMESIS here may indicate poor maintenance of one's physical image/hygiene or an inclination for slovenly habits. Perhaps heavily basing one's self-worth on their looks and causing the relationships the native has to suffer or completely dissipate. A destruction of confidence and poor self-esteem can result. They may also try to pin all their problems on their appearance. "I'm a 10, so I should only associate with other 10's." Or, "I got cheated out of a tip, because I don't have big enough boobs." Or, "No one likes me because they can't see past my face." This attitude naturally repels instead of attract. In extreme, excessive primping and failing to accept or recognize one's internal beauty can result in permanent damage to the body (Botox gone wrong, collapsed nose job, etc).

This can also indicate poor money discipline and management, causing chronic financial problems. Or perhaps serial dating that never seems to lead to a profound, rewarding relationship. They may have unobtainable ideas of a "perfect partner", and relationships crumble when their significant other fails to meet their criteria. The native may also place blame on their partner instead of recognizing their own unrealistic expectations.

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posted September 03, 2014 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
Actually, I think it indicates a preoccupation with daydreaming, and that "out-there" vibe is what puts off your school friends, perhaps perceiving you as naive. You may have missed some important elementary lessons from not paying enough attention. Young kids especially tend not to have a very good handle on their outer planets.

It could also indicate smothering your own creative flow before it even has a chance to come forward.


I can see that for sure, I had ADD, no hyperactivity just a mind that floated off into nothing a lot, I still struggle with it! It's terribly frustrating and I lose time and get depressed from not being in control of my mind the way I want and need.

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posted September 04, 2014 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShineYourLight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nemesis @ 25'39" Libra conjunct Midheaven @ 25'31" Libra

Well that's just great haha.. I never get along with authority figures, they really know how to **** me off lol!

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posted September 04, 2014 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Grat posts. Thanks so much! xx

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posted September 04, 2014 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fionapineapple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what about synastry? Would the nemesis be the person who has to watch their behavior or would the planet person be influenced by it? Like Nemesis opp someone's Moon?

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posted September 04, 2014 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nemesis conj. DC, sq. Venus, opp. Mars, opp. saturn, opp. Pluto, sq. North Node.

Yep, I should just take them monastic vows and stay the hell out of relationships.

Or... continue the series of little deaths that punctuate this life.

Oh, the decisions!

On a serious note, this isn't actually telling me anything that astrologers haven't already told me about Asc. conj. Mars conj. Saturn conj. Pluto, sq. Venus.

I guess the message is if I don't get a grip it'll be the death of me. Chiron in the 7th. Ahh how it all makes sense.

I'm off to the nunnery now.

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