posted July 09, 2008 09:22 AM              

Why don`t you look at:

1181 Lilith
100 Hekate
16 Psyche
4341 Poseidon
432 Pythia
894 Erda
256 Walpurga
2598 Merlin
35 Circe (or was it 36?)

Hmm, seeing that MErlin is conjunct my Sun and MErcury maybe I should have a look at those asteroids, too?

Oh I just noticed, you already have.

Hmm seems, Poseidon plays a certain role (conjunct MC and conjunct Moon).

Psyche conjunct Sun, ASC and Chiron.

Psyche conjunct Venus.

ERda conjunct Destinn.

So Merlin, Poseidon, Psyche and Erda seem to be important here:

I will copy the interpretations from another thread:

Merlin:
Relates to the seeking of magic and mystery. Helps attune one to the wisdom and power of the ancient Magicians and Alchemists

Psyche:
means soul; telepathic and clairaudient abilities.

Poseidon:
Similar to Neptune, psychic phenomena

Erda:
Seer; knowing the orgin and outcome of everything

posted July 09, 2008 09:25 AM            

thanks for doing this. i really really appreciate it.

yes, yes, it does make sense/resonate. i'm just trying to work out what i can do with all this stuff - or even, what i'm supposed to/meant to do with it and myself.

posted July 09, 2008 09:48 AM              

I just checked "my" Mentor and the other asteroids and I have found several connections:

Mentor: (28 Sagittarius)
conjuncts Sun (26 Sagittarius)
conjuncts Mercury (26 Sagittarius)
conjuncts Merlin (25 Sagittarius)
conjuncts Circe (28 Sagittarius; actually Mentor is on 27°38 and Circe is on 27°37 Whoa )
conjuncts D Lilith (27 Sagittarius)
conjuncts D Hekate (28 Sagittarius)

Of all these D Hekate and tropical Circe have the closest conjunction to Mentor.

D Mentor-Circe is conjunct my tropical Chiron, too.

D Mentor 18 Aries
D Circe 18 Aries
Chiron: 21 Aries

Poseidon
conjuncts Mars, Neptune, NN, Atlantis, Angel and ASC

Poseidon: 08 Sagittarius
Mars: 06 Sagittarius
Neptune: 10 Sagittarius
NN: 10-11 Sagittarius (mean and true)
Atlantis: 09 Sagittarius
Angel: 08 SAgittarius
AC: 08 Sagittarius
(and Lust also on 08 Sagittarius )

Lilith and Hekate conjunct my Draco name asteroid

Lilith 7 Virgo
Hekate 9 Virgo
Draco name 7 Virgo

posted July 09, 2008 09:53 AM            

it looks like we both have a lot to learn/figure out.

posted July 09, 2008 09:56 AM              

Mentor, Circe, D HEkate on 28 Sagittarius:

AN OLD BRIDGE OVER A BEAUTIFUL STREAM IS STILL IN CONSTANT USE.

That hit me like a lightening actually. I once called myself a bridge, linking the invisible with the visible world for my family and friends, which meant I couldn`t belong fully to either.
And I even used this picture when I tried to describe my Draco theory.

D Mentor and D Circe on 18 Aries
AN EMPTY HAMMOCK STRETCHED BETWEEN TWO TREES.

KEYNOTE: A constructive alternation of activity and rest.

Again - with the bridge-theme.

Poseidon, Angel, AC and Lust on 8 Sagittarius

WITHIN THE DEPTHS OF THE EARTH NEW ELEMENTS ARE BEING FORMED.

KEYNOTE: The alchemical fire which both purifies and transforms the very substance of man's inner life.

WHOA!

Neptune and NN on 10 Sagittarius
and for true NN 11 Sagittarius
A THEATRICAL REPRESENTATION OF A GOLDEN-HAIRED GODDESS OF OPPORTUNITY.

PHASE 251 (SAGITTARIUS 11°): IN THE LEFT SECTION OF AN ARCHAIC TEMPLE, A LAMP BURNS IN A CONTAINER SHAPED LIKE A HUMAN BODY

It really gave me shivers to read the Sabians.
Maybe you should try it for yourself?

posted July 09, 2008 09:59 AM              

A HAREM.

KEYNOTE: A fateful (even if sought after) subservience to the vagaries or desires of the emotional nature.

I could CRY. And only very coincidentally this is almost exactly conjunct musicman`s Pluto and opposing his Chiron, ASC and my name in his chart.
How can astrology be THAT painfully and yet freeing ACCURATE?

Yes, PA, I needed to see this, I can`t tell you how much I feel like my whole insides are humming and rejoicing. And I don`t even know about what exactly.

posted July 09, 2008 10:10 AM            

that's exactly how i felt when i did the first chart that i posted above. and then i hit a wall not knowing what to do about it so i posted it here to see if someone else could help me fill in the blanks.

posted July 09, 2008 10:41 AM              

And some years ago, when I was at a crossroad or end, emotionally,s piritually, I wanted to know what the real truth is, my true way.
And for some reason I felt the URGE to write a prayer, on LATIN, the words just came to me.
And I was meditating over this prayer and repeating it like a mantra.
It was basically the expressing of wanting to observe the world (inner and outer) and the praying for guidance to discern the spiritual truth from the "false priests".
Without thinking I addressed in that prayer the (trinity of the Goddess) - virgin, mother and "dark revered wise one" - the last one being Hekate, and I kinda felt as if Hekate was the one, this prayer was supposed to reach.

I don`t know why I wrote and said the prayer as I did - I am a Christian-, but it was just like a spiritual urge inside of me.
With this mantra or prayer a long journey began, and I think I started being able to see the truth and to dare to TRUST in it.

You must know, I had been very empty at that time; I had lost all my faith, my spirituality (which I once had posessed) due to my major disappointment and about my breaking down due to my feelings of guilt and despair about musicman.
Of couse the dust had settled by that time already, and i had gotten over my "lovesickness", but when the dust settled, there was nothing left from my spirituality and my faith and my trust in my own perceptions.
And at the time I wrote that prayer I had realized that I couldn`t go on with the doubts about the reality of spirituality.
And the rest is history I guess.

But it seems fitting now that asteroid Hekate plays such a big role in my astrology.

posted July 09, 2008 11:02 AM            

how's this?

our tropical charts relates to our experiences on earth as a human being. and our draconic as a soul - our growth as a soul - and together as a soul on a human journey. so they facilitate each other through the lessons to grow together. we are conscious of our soul's growth, it's direction and how the earth journey facilitates that ultimately and how we can be of service to both worlds.

posted July 09, 2008 11:07 AM              

But apart from that, I`m also okay if others will read it here. I just feel very certain and secure at the moment I guess.

But ARtemis, yes, she was always with me, kind of.
When I read the stories of Greek mythology, I felt such an inner connection with her, and a great fascination with the many gods and goddesses. So much in fact that once my mother (who isn`t even very religious) told me that we were Christians and that we only rever ONE God, not dozens of them.
And being a child I told her that I felt much more at home with Artemis, Aphrodite (those two were especially close to my heart as different they are), Hades, Poseidon, ARes and all these others. And I asked why I couldn`t believe in BOTH, the christian God and this polytheology.
My Mum told me that this is not possible.

A few years later I learned of the indian Gods and Goddesses, actually it was Siva who crossed my way, bringing a long a very vehement flashback of a past life memory. And I felt drawn to the Indian culture a lot, at least the spiritual side of it.
I was told again that I should not look into that foreign religion, by a classmate! He was saying that he wouldn`t look into these other religions, because he was scared he could doubt his own christian belief. I thought how stupid he was. What is a faith worth, if it can be shattered that easily?
Unfortunately I told him exactly that, and he stopped talking to me for WEEKS.

But that was when I understood that it doesn`T matter.
It`s all the same GOD or Goddess, no matter if you give it one name and one face (which we aren`t allowed to anyway) or if you give it many names for all the different shades.
Of course, there are many different shades, but it`s all the same in the end, the same guiding power, entitity, however oyu want to call it.

Well, and as a child I was often walking through the little forest close to our homes, and I was imagine, no I was feeling like I WAS Artemis, at least as long as I was under these trees.

Did I mention I had a lot of fantasy as a child?

lol

I hope I didn`t offend anyone`s spiritual beliefs here, I was just voicing my feelings about it.

DD

posted July 09, 2008 11:27 AM              

I know how you feel, I grew up being taught to believe one way and that there are no past lives. Though, through my experience most recently I have come to believe diffrently. I was even taught that astrology was bad. And yet here I am and finding out so much about me and why this experience happened to me.
My family cannot stand it, I think it is only because thier eyes are not open to see
The truth behind the reality or illusion.

posted July 09, 2008 12:40 PM              

letting go, surrender, moving on with my life but staying open to any spiritual guidance without clinging to it, expecting extraordinary things to happen again and again.

My family also was VERY much against astrology, but by now they have accepted it; they even admire me for doing it, but yet there is also that constant fear in them, that I might get lost somehow, too obsessive (they could be right about that. lol).
But they accept it, it`s just how I am. And I have accepted that this is the part of me I can`t share with them. Even though there is a lot of psychic energy flowing around my mum; maybe both my parents just projected this energy on me. *Shrugs*

But sometimes it scares me, how INTENSE it can feel, even unimportant events sometimes feel so intense.

Like yesterday, I was zapping through the TV programme, when suddenly (again like 16 years ago) A was there. Just a short review on themusical he is doing now in Vienna. Just a short glance.
(BTW A was the long term partner of my musicman; he was a source of endless fascination, fear and I don`t know what to me and actually seeing A 2 years ago was the beginning of this particular round in our little spiritual "merry-go-round").

So, A was on TV yesterday again, and even before my mind registered that it was him I heard myself scream his name. I mean really SCREAM in the middle of the night, with no control.
I`m no screamer, no, not at all, I don`t scream anyone`s name in the middle of the name (now if I had got a boyfriend, maybe thing`s would be different. ), but I didn`t send the order to my mouth to do that.
I was the most surprised to hear my mouth giving this noise. And that scream, I have never heard anything like that (certainly not from my mouth); I didn`t feel like it inside, but the scream was the sound of utmost rage, anger, anguish, intensity - just that I don`t have those feelings for him. But that was what I heard from my own mouth.

Well, I put it aside (not keen of another round in the funny little merry heartbreaking merry-go-round) and I dreamed.
It is a bit blurred, but in that dream I went to a Tavern, which constantly changed its name. The names I saw were Zeus, Apollo, Artemis and something with H (yeah, I got it, probably Hekate or how about Hades). Because it felt like I entered Hades itself. Not how it looked, just how it felt.
And I knew I had been there before, quite often actually, even though I didn`t remember. And I wanted to go there again, but I had to, I felt compelled. And I felt even more compelled to walk down the stairs. And with each step my heart grew heavier, and I started becoming apathic.
While I was descending the stairs, someone, a man, raced them up, but I didn`t realize who it was.
When I arrived at the lower level, I saw A standing there, and I wasn`t surprised. I just told him: "I don`t want to be here again."
And he said: "But you are. You are always coming back."
And I said: "I`m going these stairs up again, and i will not turn around anymore."
HE said: "Yes, you will. Besided when you arrive up there, you will have forgotten all about it, like everytime."
And I remembered that I had been there before, and that he was right, when I had awoken, I had forgotten all about it.
But still I said: "Not this time. This time is different."
I started going up again, and it was so hard, climbing up these stairs. There was some kind of resistance, as it felt. And i felt so apathic, as if I was already dead inside.
And suddenly I turned around, lunged at him and started to slap and even really hit him and screamed over and over again: "WHAT DID YOU DO TO OUR SON? WHAT DID YOU DO TO HIM? GIVE ME BACK MY SON! WHERE IS MY SON?"
He didn`t say anything, but I knew it in my heart, that he was dead. My son is dead.
And with that knowledge I started climbing up the stairs again,w hile I was crying. But with every step I could feel that oblivion threatened to engulfen me completely, but I fought against it, and I kept at least a tiny little bit of my memory, when I left that tavern again.

*sigh* I have no idea what that was about.

You know, this little incident shows how a little thing can get ´blown completely out of proportion, if the time and feeling is right for me.
But to be honest, usually it`s only A, who can get me into that boiling mess, I don´t want to be.

But after all he is my Nemesis (My Nemesis on 28°33 LIbra is opposing his Moon on 28°34 Aries, while his Nemesis on 27°34 SAgittarius conjuncts my Sun on 25°56 Sagittarius and of course my Circe on 27°37 Sagittarius and my Mentor on 27°38 Sagittarius :sighs .

posted July 10, 2008 07:37 AM            

thanks for the sabian symbol link.

posted July 10, 2008 08:44 AM              

Have you found out something interesting?