posted May 06, 2008 06:07 PM            

1. What is Veronika's significance, meaning, or what does it represent?
2. When aspected (major and minor aspects) what are the interpretations?

If anyone knows, I would really be grateful for the info. It's important to me.

posted May 06, 2008 07:58 PM            

I'm not really sure what it is supposed to mean, that is an asteroid that close to one in one's chart. Whether its a reflection of self of the deepest inner bits (being 12th), I don't know.

With my own asteroid (which coincidentally has different spelling to my name but I think its close enough), it appears in an odd spot in my chart too. Mine too also appears in the 12th with only one aspect, that is trine to ura (and squ ceres, sextile POF). I'm an Aqu so maybe it has something to do with that.

Oddly yours is sextiling the ura in your first house, so maybe you identify a lot with that ura. Maybe its that you use your ura energy effectively in your life!

posted May 06, 2008 08:03 PM            

Try the name with synastry within the person's family and their relationships. You may find quite a few connections.

posted May 10, 2008 08:31 AM            

Thank you guys but I need more info if there is any.

posted May 10, 2008 09:18 AM              

Example: I once knew two guys who were called "Malte" - they were a true plague! I really couldn`t stand them.
Now, due to my experiences with them I just can`t stand that name anymore. And what shall I tell you? Everytime I meet a new Malte, he seems to confirm that negative image I have inside. They are all jerks!
(Of course that is probably only the force of projecting on my part).
When my mum suggested to call my little brother Malte, I fought vehemently against this, and I got my wish granted. He has been named after my suggestion actually, which was coloured by a fairy tale I read at that time. lol

However, name asteroids describe the vibration of names, and if you put them into your chart, you can say how your personal perception of a certain name is.
People who carry that name, will trigger that image and vibration inside you.

Let`s say a certain name is conjunct your own IC - persons with that name, their energy, will hit you at your deepest core.

Example:

The name of a friend of mine (from my teenager-days)fell into Sagittarius in my 1st house conjunct my Sun and Mercury.
In the beginning I envied her for the freedom she seemed to have, how she could live almost independent from her parents, how she broke every rule and did her own thing. She was so Sagittarian to me, much more than I felt myself, open to anything (which included doing drugs unfortunately - everything has its shadow side), she even went to a school, which believed in a very different, liberal way to educate.
All this spelt so much Sagittarius to me; at least I saw her that way, since her name asteroid was in Sag in my chart.
Coincidentally that name asteroid was also exactly conjunct her ASC, so my perception was a realistic one; she was all that, unfortunately to such a high degree, that it led her down a road, I couldn`t follow.

The name of another friend, who has been my friend for the last 17 years or so, is in Scorpio in my 11th or 12th house (depends on which housesystem I use).
Above all she always seemed to me brooding, intense, often almost depressive, always seeing the dark side of life, but also loyal without end, absolutely trustworthy, but also very demanding.
Well, it fits her personality, since she has a Stellium including Pluto, which also opposes her Moon and squares her ASC.

My name in her chart falls into Virgo in her 4th or 3rd house; it also exactly squares her Neptune.
She sees me as a weird mixture of striving for perfection, scared of making mistakes, very reserved and shy, but also serious and loyal, and at the same time with a tendency to dream away, indulging in fantasies and being rather chaotic at times.
She thinks me trustworthy (I stood beside her in a very dark time, while others had left her alone and couldn`t forgive her the mistake she had made; I did give her this second chance she asked for, and somehow she is thankful for that to today, even though it was not that great deal to me. She made a mistake, she apologized, she didn`t do it again - so it was all okay. NOthing to worry about. Well others reacted differently. Actually there are still people out there who can`t forgive her for something she did when she was 15! I mean, she didn`t steal, she didn`t kill anyone. Nothing really serious. doesn`t matter.) and she sees me as a part of her family somehow.

posted May 10, 2008 11:47 AM            

DD - I understand a little better now.
At least I have a basic idea.

deuxantares - LOL

posted May 10, 2008 12:43 PM            

Sadly, I can't yet conclude my search but I have learned that if an asteroid (transit or natal)aspects (conjuncts) you inner planets, it is more personal because the outer planets are generational, and that sextiles and trines might as well be ignored.

Also, I learned that if someone's name asteroid hits your first house, it means that they identify with themselves much easier through you, or in your presence, easier for them to be themselves o to know themselves, and also that the house ruler must be considered as to how this asteroid will manifest itself in the chart. So, if an asteroid hits in a house ruled by Mercury, there will be a lot of mental stimulation and communication flow. etc.

If the asteroid name falls in someone's 1st house for example, it will mean that you will be hard to ignore, you will be in their face so this is good for getting attention for business... or pleasure. 2nd house means that it pertains to your need for material security. In 3rd that person might inspire you to be busy with mental projects. 4th, that person might make you closer to your family or to see your family clearer... and so on.

Similar to what DD said.

Yeah, Zala , the first thing you ever told me was about where Veronika is, in your chart, and that it was a good thing for us, but because I was busy learning other things I didn't inquire "why".

Transiting Veronika is in Gemini as we speak by the way, earthlings so... If you have some Gemini influence, we might be connecting more than usual

This is waaaay interesting.
I am definitely going to use asteroids in business.

If more of you have something to share, please do. This asteroid thing will be my next hobby. I am finding great insight and significance by taking DD's advise and playing around with other people's charts.

Very cool indeed. I get excited when I learn something new. I am a nerd.

posted May 10, 2008 01:30 PM            

If your name asteroid is conjunct my Saturn, my role in your life might be as a teacher or authority figure to you. House position will be important. Saturn is typically presented as a "father" figure, or some controlling, imposing or respect-worthy presence. Saturn also typically represents limitation/restriction. Your name asteroid represents YOU -- your whole chart in a manner of speaking -- so if YOU are conjunct my Saturn, Magi might say that I'm in a position to have some sort of control over your being.

As an illustration, here's a sample Magi Saturn interp -- in this case a "Linkage" rather than a "Clash" (hard aspect), using Neptune:

posted May 10, 2008 01:43 PM            

I have never had the pleasure of having someone around my little finger because at the back of my head I hear that Saturn voice speaking saying, "Discipline, don't take advantage of people's weakness. Instead, empower them."

it's a good philosophy but it literally means that I can't be Dr. Evil. It makes sense because any manipulation I try tears me at the soul, so I never go further and I always rectify any thing that I might have done in a manipulative manner.

posted May 10, 2008 03:13 PM              

i also was interested in name asteroids myslef when DD pointed her findings about how the name frequencies really work on sinastry.

I always thought that for example,if an asteroid was called "X",then its cause the person who first found it,gave their name to the asteroid.

Surprisingly,the name frequencies work at a very deel level and i can tell you that by experience too.

I presume that Veronika is a very special person to you,so surely you will find some important conections in your chart,and also maybe int he composite and Draconics.

IŽll tell you what i found in my own chart:

the most special person to me is my bf called John.I always treated him by Jonnhy and his full name is JonhPaul.
Coincidentally or not,it exists both asteroids with those names.

In my natal,JohnPaul conj my IC - meaning he hits me at my most intimate core.

His JohnPaul falls into my 4th (house of home and family).in a way,i feel nurted,cared for and safe with him.

My Anna falls into his 11th ( a house that personifies our hopes and dreams,what we attain for).

We both have DW of anna/sun;JohnPaul/Sun in our natals.

Looking furhter more,you can look at the Dracos:

For instance,in his comparison of his draco to his natal,his Draco Valentine conj his natal Anna exact ( meaning that possibly,we have a soul contract on this life to truly love one another).

Then,on looking at our sinastry,i see a supporting aspect to that: My ANNA widely conj his VALENTINE and ANTI-VERTEX!

Draco Karma exact conj his DSC - he seems to have some love karma to this lifetime.

Draco Anna conj his 5thCusp(again related to romance and love..)

His Draco Juno/JohnPaul/John conj his natal Venus - again,seems that he will love in this life, someone with whom he was committed in past life.

Draco Venus is conj his Valentine - this one seems great!! PPure love in this life related closely to a past life love.

Looking at my own comparison of draco to natal,i see that Draco JohnPaul exact conj my Jonnhy ( meaning that indeed we met at a past life and in this it is a love bond as the draco JohnPaul falls into my 7th.

Once again,supporting this,i see that natal JohnPaul falls into 12th house of draco and that dRACO Jonnhy falls into my 4th house.

Draco Sun ( sun as relating to THe Man) is wide conj my NN in natal.
The day i met Jonnhy,Transit Sun was exact conj my NN,meaning the arriving of a special man into my life.

Dr. Destinn/Union conj natal Juno -
meaning that the one I get committed to will be someone,i have met in a previous life or who has a major influence on my destiny in this life.

(supporting this:my Destinn/Union in natal conj EXACTLY JOhn+s ASC! )

Dr. Pluto/Saturn conj my natal Valentine -
this is like Menelaos loved Helena (Troy). it means that MY love (Valentine) will be very intense (Pluto), and that this intensity stems from the past, a previous life (Draco). Additonally my love will be like glue (Saturn); iŽll get transformed in a lasting way through true love.

in sinastry,JohnŽs Saturn figure quite strongly,and we share a Pluto/Venus paralell exact - obssessive love also.