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Topic: Does lılıth ın 5th mean my chıldren wıll dıe?
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belgz unregistered
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posted August 25, 2007 06:19 AM
I read somwhere one upon a tıme that lılıth ın 5th would brıng death to my chıldren. ıs thıs true IP: Logged |
cat71 unregistered
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posted August 25, 2007 08:48 AM
I don't know whether you'll like my response or not I don't know what the general astrological take on this is - but I have Lilith in the 5th along with my stellium, I have one very healthy, strong as an ox Sag daughter, BUT I miscarried her twin brother and her younger sister a few years later. So give and take I guess, Lilith was transiting my 8th house with 1st miscarriage, and transitting my 6th house with the 2nd miscarriage. Don't know if that's any help, hopefully others will have more positive feedback for you IP: Logged |
ErickaF unregistered
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posted August 25, 2007 10:16 AM
Which lilith...the asteroid?!?!?IP: Logged |
belgz unregistered
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posted August 25, 2007 10:39 AM
I heard that ın can cause cot death or somethıng. ı have lılıth ın 5th and ıt aspects my moon and neptune ıts square to all my planets and ıve had an mıscarrıages too but ı havent really cared. I just hope when ı do decıde to have them nothıng happens to them ------------------ ASC: Vırgo Sun: Cancer Moon: Gemını Mars: Cancer Mercury: Cancer Venus: Leo IP: Logged |
cat71 unregistered
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posted August 25, 2007 11:08 AM
Ericka - see now you've confused me I was asked this by someone else recently as well and can't remember which is which... Anyway the one I mean is the one in the box with Chiron in the extended charts section at astro.com - which one is that? IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1488 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2007 11:09 AM
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ErickaF unregistered
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posted August 25, 2007 11:23 AM
hehe...thats the black moon lilith. The scary one lol. j/k.IP: Logged |
cat71 unregistered
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posted August 25, 2007 11:29 AM
Ericka - thank's for that, it always confuses me. I've also noticed that this transiting lilith usually comes up for me with being lied to or betrayed.On a side note - for anyone who's experienced a miscarriage, it is hard a time to go through, mostly cause no-one knows what to say to you, but it gets easier to deal with in time. My daughter says, "we have two angels whose names we know" IP: Logged |
NeptuneLove unregistered
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posted August 25, 2007 11:38 AM
I know a guy who has Lilith in 5th conjunct his Juno. Mighty wife i guess IP: Logged |
Love Knowflake Posts: 54 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2007 01:36 PM
So I am wondering about the "other" Lilith. Actually, I know there are technically two more of them. I am referring to True Black Moon Lilith. My ex has this in the 8th conjunct his Sun and Juno in Scorpio. I've always wondered what that meant, seeing as it's the 8th house AND it's in Scorp.Anyone? IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 986 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 25, 2007 01:47 PM
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izodesmozina unregistered
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posted August 26, 2007 03:12 AM
There is an asteroid Child; there is also a Part of Children you can check. Look at house placements and aspects. Cat, I'm sorry. IP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 1277 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 26, 2007 04:59 AM
((((( cat )))))I think astrology can help explain what we have within us, but I've always been very skeptical about it influencing external events. So my natural instinct is to think that no astrological placement predicts life events, our placements just show the psychological tools we're working with. But I am a little freaked out by this issue because I have Lilith in the 11th, which, among other things, is the house of friends. When I was 17, a good friend of mine was killed. So, not so sure what to think...probably a coincidence. When he died, I had t.Lilith conjunct my Moon. (also had t.Saturn opposing Karma & t.NNode conjunct Karma, and t.Moon conjunct Pluto.) IP: Logged |
cristiname Knowflake Posts: 66 From: Earth. Welcome! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2007 05:32 AM
look, guys. pregnancy and fertility problems are, in fact, psychological. (what you and I already know from astrology, right?)from my own experience in therapy and from theory that I've come to believe in - such problems are: problems with ur mum, problems with the man trying to conceive with/ who’s fathered the child or problems with ur own becoming a mum. it still baffles me how women fake relationships or well-being. A woman had 3 years of unsuccessful expensive fertility treatment; she was actually trying to have a baby with a guy who had cheated on her for 10 (yes, ten) times. well... that's how many times she had caught him. she hated this guts deep-down, and still - she 'hoped' the child would 'make him love her'. well... the child didn't do that. She left therapy after conceiving, too. I won't get into details here since u're personally involved, but there is such a thing as good timing for renouncing being 'single and fabulous'. becoming a mum is not an easy thing for a woman, and fear is the natural thing to feel. but often times, such fears cover smt more powerful. a woman was afraid to die in child-birth bc her great-great-mother had, and 'everybody said she ‘looked just like her'. don't laugh! If she hadn't talked to a therapist before, who knows what... another one believed that her mum hated her for 'making her a grand-mum', so she ‘figured ‘ that if she had died, her mum would raise the kid as a ‘mum’ and wouldn't hate her so much. these sort of feelings are very real and they often lay sleeping for years, and then boom! become trouble. it's only human to feel. so... use astrology to learn about what sort of skeletons you might have in ur past. Learn who you are. Check out ur rel with ur parents, the stuff that you may be feeling but never really thought about that way, and foremost, be honest about becoming a mum and about that particular man. Don’t fake love, don’t believe in magical solutions. and then, if you fear smt regarding the pregnancy, the baby, etc. talk to someone professional. oh, and don't scary others on forums the fear only *seems* to diminish...
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cat71 unregistered
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posted August 26, 2007 07:09 AM
Firstly thanx to Izo & Jane - it was some time ago now but I appreciate your compassion. Secondly, I rarely, if ever get into confrontations here, but if this comment was aimed at me cristiname; "oh, and don't scary others on forums" I want to say, I wasn't trying to scare anyone just sharing my experiences which happened to relate to the question being asked. And frankly the suggestion that I would do such a thing offends me. If it wasn't aimed at me then forget about it... IP: Logged |
cristiname Knowflake Posts: 66 From: Earth. Welcome! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2007 12:07 PM
it wasn't. you shared your life story. It was about how this thread got started in the first place. I'd sure like to see sources for such 'quotes'. this 'I read somewhere' is not a responsible way to share "knowledge". Who said that, In which context, how much experience did they have, which sort of expereince, etc. you, on the other hand, could be a "victim" here. I'm sure your pain wasn't 'fated'... bad things happen to nice ppl. one cannot live life in fear. IP: Logged |
cat71 unregistered
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posted August 26, 2007 12:20 PM
Cristiname - thanx for your response it's appreciated - and I'm sure glad your comment wasn't towards me, I'd hate to thinking sharing something personal like that would be seen as scaremongering - I certainly didn't intend it that way - Peace and Love IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 1066 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2007 03:23 PM
Death doesn't always mean the soul leaving the physical. It sometimes just means endings. It might mean that your children would bring a death (or change) to an aspect (or deeply held belief) of yourself for example. If you look at all of the aspects and planets (energies) involved and still determine that a dark interpretation is the way to go, then you might come up with that your dk moon lil is activated by your child and you might resent your child (like with postpartum depression) bringing a death to the perfect mother/ perfect family image you might have held dear. That sort of thing. I had an 8th House thing with my daughter and for a while I was worried that if I remarried I would cause her death ( :P ) and upon a great deal of further research I realized that our meeting loosely coincided with a death in my house of marriage/relationships and since I was divorced very shortly after she was born and actually sooner in reality, all the information came together in greater detail and made more sense.Be careful what you wish Be careful what you say Be careful what you wish You might regret it Be careful what you wish You just might get it ~metallica Think about the love inside the strength of heart Think about the heroes saving life in the dark Climbing higher through the fire, time was running out Never knowing you weren't going to be coming down alive But you still came back for me You were strong and you believed
Everything is gonna be alright Everything is gonna be alright Everything is gonna be alright Be strong. Believe. Be strong. Believe. Think about the chance I never had to say Thank you for giving up your life that day Never fearing, only hearing voices calling out Let it all go, the life that you know, just to bring it down alive And you still came back for me You were strong and you believed Everything is gonna be alright Everything is gonna be alright Everything is gonna be alright Be strong. Believe. (Again today, we take into our hearts and minds those who perished on this site one year ago, and also those who came to toil in the rubble to bring order out of chaos, to help us make sense of our despair) Wanna hold my wife when I get home Wanna tell the kids they'll never know how much I love to see them smile Wanna make a change or two right now Wanna live a life like you somehow Wanna make your sacrifice worthwhile Everything is gonna be alright Everything is gonna be alright Everything is gonna be alright Be strong. Believe. Everything is gonna be alright Everything is gonna be alright Everything is gonna be alright Be strong. Believe. Think about the love inside the strength of heart Think about the heroes saving life in the dark Think about the chance I never had to say Thank you for giving up your life that day (The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here) ~Yellowcard
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yourfriendinspirit unregistered
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posted August 26, 2007 11:44 PM
"Introducing Lilith - the Black Moon in Horoscope" I found some interesting information in here.Excerpt:"In the chart of women who have Lilith in hard aspects to the moon or in the 5th house she may also indicate general problems with pregnancy and childbirth - either the chart-owner suffers from miscarriage or she does not want to be pregnant or is afraid of motherhood." My personal story/experience: My Natal= Lilith is in the 5th Pregnancy #1 = Normal until 8th month then pre eclamptic toxemia issues set in. Child was induced at term everything went smooth Pregnancy #2 = Twins... I'm violently ill immediately lost the first of the two at 2 and 1/2 months, then the second at 3 months and 2 weeks. Pregnancy #3 = Normal until 6th month then pre eclamptic toxemia issues set in. At 7th month I had a stroke, then another a few weeks later. Pregnancy induced diabeties set in, then full blown Toxemia. Child was induced at term. He was born dead. Yet was somehow miraculously revived about 4 1/2 minutes later. Pregnancy #4 = Normal until 4th month then pre eclamptic toxemia issues set in. My blood pressure went through the roof! I was told by the fifth month either the baby or I would die. By 27 weeks was I forcefully induced into labor. The baby was born just at 28 weeks gestation [3 months early!] A mere 13 inches long and not more than a pound but we both had survived. She [the baby]was given just a 4% chance of even surviving through the night... Here we are almost four years later! -No medical issues what so ever! I have three beautiful children For anyone who's interested there's a whole lot of information out there.
Sendin' love your way, "your friend in spirit" IP: Logged |
izodesmozina unregistered
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posted August 27, 2007 02:04 AM
... What about composite Lilith in the 5th? We both have a square between Lilith and asteroid Child in the natal chart. Saturn opposes my Child; he has a wide square in his chart between the two. But my Part of Children is, however, well aspected: conjunction with Jupiter, trine from Sun. His Part of Children conjuncts his Part of Fortune. IP: Logged |
belgz unregistered
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posted August 27, 2007 03:34 AM
yourfriendinspirit is ıt possıble for you to paste ur chart here? İs ıt ın bad aspect to the moon? Mıne ıs square everythıng and yeah ıts true ı have a fear of havıng babıes probably because of my mum and ı had 3 mıscarrıages second one was twıns. ıll show u my chart and my auntys chart who also had twıns and one was declared dead and came back to lıfe. my chart http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_2gw_01_belgin_colak.26917.27597.gif&res=100&va=&cid=582fileWEP0zi-u1065325146
my auntys http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_2gw_213_esen_yenge.26994.29708.gif&res=100&va=&cid=582fileWEP0zi-u1065325146
ı was so worrıed because my lılıth ın 5th ıs badly aspected but my aunty gave bırth to 4 chıldren also. And her lıltıh ıs badly aspected and also aspects saturn and mars ın 12th the house of losses so ı fıgured my babıes wıll be ok too. I thınk ı mıght have premature babıes because ı heard mars ın cancer tends to cause or quıcken chıldbırth especıally ın tenth house. IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1488 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2007 10:47 AM
yourfriendinspirit you're story is truly inspiring.Moon/Lilith/Venus in Taurus/5th IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1488 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2007 10:49 AM
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posted August 27, 2007 09:18 PM
My fiancee has Lilth in the 5th. I have lost 3 of our pregnancies so far. I have a lovely son from a previous relationship, but I am concerned that that might be my lot where natural pregnancies are concerned. But that's not to say that adoption is out of the question. But I think my wee Daniel would prefer a dog!!! IP: Logged |
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posted August 28, 2007 03:28 AM
Graph And WheelI hope that this helps you with your personal research... p.s. My daughter was famous by age 3 months as her pictures were plastered across the nation to posters, signs, and informative reports in reference to premature births and needed research. I spoke at several events [pregnancy resource center awareness] to help women learn that spiritual focus is a vital part of nurturing a baby, abortion was never an option. (Even when family members, friends, and doctors recommended and encouraged such) Further info: Pregnancy #1 = Husband #1 His Lilith is in Aries [8th House] @ 27 degrees, 41 min, and 41 seconds His Astroid Child is in Virgo [1st House] @ 23 degrees, 24 min, and 49 seconds Pregnancy #2,3,and 4 = Husband #2 His Lilith is in Taurus [1st House] @ 26 degrees, 3 min, and 38 seconds His Astroid Child is in Capricorn [10th House] @ 25 degrees, 39 min, and 7 seconds Sendin' love your way, "your friend in spirit" IP: Logged |