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Topic: Ceres..."Here, you need this".
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downtomars Knowflake Posts: 846 From: NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2011 05:16 PM
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anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 1631 From: won't_disclose Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 09, 2011 12:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by downtomars: http://www.universalsky.com/Articles/Astrology/Planets/Asteroids/key words_rulership/ceres_in_astrology.htm Here is a site with some good Ceres keywords. I would think that with Ceres conj AC you would project these qualities to the world...
Thanks for the link. The keywords are good but I do not "project any of these qualities to the world" neither do I know what this means in realistic/practical terms.
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Lonake Moderator Posts: 6015 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2011 12:58 AM
quote: Ceres in Scorpio: Ceres in Scorpio people tend to feel nurtured through sex. They could also make their sexual partners feel nurtured. This is wonderful if you are dating them, but more of a problem if the person with this placement happens to be your child. Contact with anything deep, mysterious, or transforming will also bring up that nurtured feeling. Those with this placement would probably (assuming no severe afflictions to Ceres in their chart) feel nurtured if they visited Pompeii or some other archeological ruin. Probably, Ceres in Scorpio would be a good placement for a doctor or heath care professional because Scorpio rules healing and they could make their patients feel nurtured during the therapeutic process.
In the 4th, trine NN in Cancer, sextile Venus in Capricorn quote: Venus trine or sextile Ceres You love nature and all growing things, and are an excellent care giver and nurturer. You enjoy feeding people, creatures and plants, are probably a wonderful cook and gardener. You are gracious in giving, supportive of growth, but may find separation very difficult. Your bonds with loved ones tend to be very strong and deep.
quote: Ceres Aspects Venus: Oh for a lover with the harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile, or trine) between Venus and Ceres! The ability to express love and affection and the nurturing nature are in harmony. They can love you and feed you at the same time. These people will tend to be nurtured by beauty and beautiful things, as well as by pleasant social gatherings. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) indicate that what you need to feel happy and your nurturing needs are out of alignment. Perhaps the clothes you were given as a child made you feel ugly. There will tend to be nurturing issues with partners and lovers. With the stressful aspects, you could constantly attract partners and lovers who always seem to require nurturing from you. Conversely, the nurturing you get from them never seems to be right. As always with the stressful aspects, do not look upon this as some terrible fate, but rather as a problem that needs to be solved or as an obstacle that needs to be overcome.
I have Moon conj Venus sq Pluto which taken together means much of the same, hard to separate it from Ceres. Scorp Jupiter is in the 4th too. I love to nurture sexual partners, providing a refuge for them. Sexual healing makes sense too.IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 1631 From: won't_disclose Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 09, 2011 01:10 AM
I noticed that my Ceres on my ASC is almost exact trine to my natal Uranus in the 8th.I found a description that resonates greatly from the astrofix link someone offered above: quote:
Harmonious aspects can suggest original and innovative approaches toward caring for others and developing family structures. Ceres-Uranus individuals are often advocates of human rights and especially support children's individuality. This aspect can connote a highly developed intuition concerning human nature that enables the person to establish rapport with people of various races and nationalities.
In fact I feel this is a description that fits all my ASC conjunctions that trine my 8th house Uranus: Mars, Psyche, Karma, Ceres. IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 1631 From: won't_disclose Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 09, 2011 01:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: Ceres Aspects Venus: Oh for a lover with the harmonious aspects (conjunction, sextile, or trine) between Venus and Ceres! The ability to express love and affection and the nurturing nature are in harmony. They can love you and feed you at the same time. These people will tend to be nurtured by beauty and beautiful things, as well as by pleasant social gatherings. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) indicate that what you need to feel happy and your nurturing needs are out of alignment. Perhaps the clothes you were given as a child made you feel ugly. There will tend to be nurturing issues with partners and lovers. With the stressful aspects, you could constantly attract partners and lovers who always seem to require nurturing from you. Conversely, the nurturing you get from them never seems to be right. As always with the stressful aspects, do not look upon this as some terrible fate, but rather as a problem that needs to be solved or as an obstacle that needs to be overcome.
Lonake, where are the quotes from? I have a wide Ceres square Venus and I like the description above. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 6015 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2011 01:23 AM
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Ceres21.1.html from the prev pgIP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 1631 From: won't_disclose Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 09, 2011 01:42 AM
I don't like Bob Marks' notes on Ceres, except for what you quoted about aspects to Venus. He writes so subjectively. I checked what he says about Ceres aspects to Uranus and guess what? He only points the stressful aspects, nothing about the harmonious ones! It's almost as if he has issues with people with Ceres sq Uranus! LOL Even his description of Ceres in Aqua is not illuminating either. What exactly does it mean by "if it's weird it nurtures you?" That's bollocks, not astrology. IP: Logged |
downtomars Knowflake Posts: 846 From: NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2011 01:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by anongrl10: Thanks for the link. The keywords are good but I do not "project any of these qualities to the world" neither do I know what this means in realistic/practical terms.
Sorry, I was using flowery astro language...Just meaning that people see these qualities in you...do you appear to be someone people can _______ (fill in the blank with a Ceres keyword)? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 1216 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 09, 2011 02:04 AM
I wouldn´t say it`s bollocks, he just doesn`t speak your language, as it seems.He just put two keyword together (which is what we always do in astrological interpretation; though I find him sometimes to be subjective as well; but aren`t we all? And he probably emphasises the themes he resonates with). Anyone: "weird" is often used to describe Uranus or Aquarius (though in my opinion that really does not do this symbol justice) "nurturing" is a keyword for Ceres. Personally I prefer "caring for / taking care of" as keywords for Ceres. I am never really sure what they exactly mean with "nurturing"; always reminds me of babies being breastfed. But I think if you are feeling nurtured / cared for, it gives you that comfortable feeling of warmth inside and being secure and able to be yourself and be "looked after" by a wellmeaning being. THAT is for me how a positive Ceres feels for me. Of course it might be different for others. anyway in my case Ceres is in Pisces and in 3rd house, so characteristics of Pisces and 3rd house give me that feeling and evoke the wish inside me to give back some of the "caring" I experienced. I feel cared for and getting these fuzzy warm feelings inside, if I am "allowed" to go into PIsces/ 3rd house mode: there are of course several manifestations thinkable: ° communicating about spiritual things ° reading fantasy books (which is my favourite genre actually; I feel "home" in these books) ° writing fairytale like stories And if someone responds to me with empathy, understanding, openness and so on I feel really cared for. On the other hand it is also the way I care for others. Trying to listen, to not judge (though it is probably human that we do that; but I try not to), to understand where they are at or coming from, even if their way is foreign to me. It also comes out in my lessons. For some reason my classes are those that write the most colourful, fantastic stories during lessons. I guess I encourage them to do so. While other teachers encourage them to be more factual; I think both is important and I try to encourage them to do both; but my heart really is in the fictional genre. IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 1631 From: won't_disclose Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 09, 2011 02:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by downtomars: Sorry, I was using flowery astro language...Just meaning that people see these qualities in you...do you appear to be someone people can _______ (fill in the blank with a Ceres keyword)?
Don't worry; it was not a personal remark and had no reflection on you whatsoever. I know you were just trying to help. I have this pet-peeve. I'm in favor of precise (SN/Pluto in Virgo) AND intuitive (Pluto in 8th house) descriptions rather than one-size-fits-all type of descriptions. I don't do "textbook" in most cases (Aqua rising here, Mars trine Uranus lol)......
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anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 1631 From: won't_disclose Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 09, 2011 02:11 AM
Ceri, read my responses to you in the other thread. I got what I was looking for. The below is unnecessary. (And no I do not like MOST of Bob Mark's "astrological" tipbits sorry to disagree but he's not as talented as he thinks he is. Sometimes he hits the mark but most of the times, he glosses over it.)have a good day, talk later y'all Anongrl10 quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: I wouldn´t say it`s bollocks, he just doesn`t speak your language, as it seems.He just put two keyword together (which is what we always do in astrological interpretation; though I find him sometimes to be subjective as well; but aren`t we all? And he probably emphasises the themes he resonates with). Anyone: "weird" is often used to describe Uranus or Aquarius (though in my opinion that really does not do this symbol justice) "nurturing" is a keyword for Ceres. Personally I prefer "caring for / taking care of" as keywords for Ceres. I am never really sure what they exactly mean with "nurturing"; always reminds me of babies being breastfed. But I think if you are feeling nurtured / cared for, it gives you that comfortable feeling of warmth inside and being secure and able to be yourself and be "looked after" by a wellmeaning being. THAT is for me how a positive Ceres feels for me. Of course it might be different for others. anyway in my case Ceres is in Pisces and in 3rd house, so characteristics of Pisces and 3rd house give me that feeling and evoke the wish inside me to give back some of the "caring" I experienced. I feel cared for and getting these fuzzy warm feelings inside, if I am "allowed" to go into PIsces/ 3rd house mode: there are of course several manifestations thinkable: ° communicating about spiritual things ° reading fantasy books (which is my favourite genre actually; I feel "home" in these books) ° writing fairytale like stories And if someone responds to me with empathy, understanding, openness and so on I feel really cared for. On the other hand it is also the way I care for others. Trying to listen, to not judge (though it is probably human that we do that; but I try not to), to understand where they are at or coming from, even if their way is foreign to me. It also comes out in my lessons. For some reason my classes are those that write the most colourful, fantastic stories during lessons. I guess I encourage them to do so. While other teachers encourage them to be more factual; I think both is important and I try to encourage them to do both; but my heart really is in the fictional genre.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 1216 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 09, 2011 02:23 AM
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appleberry Knowflake Posts: 69 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted November 19, 2011 11:24 PM
I have Ceres conjunct Juno and Venus within 3 degrees in Aquarius in the 5th house. I'm not really sure what it means. However, guessing with regards to my personality. I am extremely devoted to whomever I am in a relationship with, even if I don't think the relationship is going to last. I am never unfaithful. When I am with someone I love, I am extremely nurturing and supportive. Seem like it has to do with that combination? IP: Logged |
rhiana_phaedra Newflake Posts: 23 From: NZ Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 24, 2011 10:53 PM
What would it mean to have Ceres in Gemini, fifth house?Would it be like... I like to nurture through communication, specifically art? Poetry, song-writing, etc? I don't know. I have Sun & Merc in my 5th house and Venus in Leo in the 6th... I've always desired to be an artist of sorts, save the world through music. =D IP: Logged |