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Topic: The Nessus/Dejanira Obsession--Why??
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50010 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 11, 2012 11:44 AM
Why when Nessus touches us in synastry do we collapse inside?------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50010 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 11, 2012 11:45 AM
I mean romantic not you Ceri ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4365 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 11, 2012 12:14 PM
What do u love about dejanira ami? IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 11, 2012 12:16 PM
I'm currently in this situation, This guy's Nessus opposites my Dejanria, and my Dejanria conjuncts his Mars. He does seems pretty obsessed and that worries me. However we have some "soulmate linkages" his chiron conjuncts my venus and his psyche opposites my eros. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4365 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 11, 2012 12:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: I'm currently in this situation, This guy's Nessus opposites my Dejanria, and my Dejanria conjuncts his Mars. He does seems pretty obsessed and that worries me. However we have some "soulmate linkages" his chiron conjuncts my venus and his psyche opposites my eros.
Hi misses moonfish lol do u have the numbers for these 2 please IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 11, 2012 12:25 PM
Hi Mr. Aries lol yea sure Nessus 7066 Deja 157IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4365 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 11, 2012 12:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: Hi Mr. Aries lol yea sure Nessus 7066 Deja 157
Thanks sweetness IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 11, 2012 12:31 PM
np, you still broke my heart ya know -.- ..and we scorpios don't take rejection very well Lol jk IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4365 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 11, 2012 12:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: np, you still broke my heart ya know -.- ..and we scorpios don't take rejection very well Lol jk
Lol I still love u IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4365 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 11, 2012 12:40 PM
Posted by tainberry on LL thought I'd add it...Been reading a bit about Dejanira and was thinking MAYBE Dejanira is not simply a passive place in your chart – a sitting duck for others to victimise as the Sophocles version of the myth suggests. There is another side to her – she was, according to Appolodorus, a warrior- princess who “drove a chariot and practiced the art of war”. She was also such a striking beauty that Hercules and Achelous fought over her to marry her, and of course, she was also the object of the desire of Nessus who not only wanted her but was also able to see something that she could not – that her husband was a complete and utter jerk to her, putting his own “appetites” first without any consideration of what suffering this might cause her. I think that it was Heracles that was the real abuser to her, not Nessus, although she was too good a person to do anything about it but suffer her husbands repeated infidelities with grace and stoicism. Nessus was the wild card that entered her life and who may have seemed scary at the time but who actually did her a favour by giving her the magic potion that killed Heracles. She was not a murderer, her intentions were good, but it was nevertheless a kind of poetic justice that she became the blameless instrument of moral justice served on Heracles that he thoroughly deserved. As such, Dejanira can represent the place in your chart where you may be the target of someone else’s shoddy treatment, but at the same time you unwittingly possess a gift or the means from an unlikely source that will magically turn the tables on them in the end without you having to act with malice or ill-intent. IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 11, 2012 12:40 PM
oh good, then i'll spare you from my vengeance... for now ^.~ muwhahaIP: Logged |
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4365 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 11, 2012 12:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: oh good, then i'll spare you from my vengeance... for now ^.~ muwhaha
Ok I'm safe lol thank god IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 11, 2012 12:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by ariesdragon: Posted by tainberry on LL thought I'd add it...Been reading a bit about Dejanira and was thinking MAYBE Dejanira is not simply a passive place in your chart – a sitting duck for others to victimise as the Sophocles version of the myth suggests. There is another side to her – she was, according to Appolodorus, a warrior- princess who “drove a chariot and practiced the art of war”. She was also such a striking beauty that Hercules and Achelous fought over her to marry her, and of course, she was also the object of the desire of Nessus who not only wanted her but was also able to see something that she could not – that her husband was a complete and utter jerk to her, putting his own “appetites” first without any consideration of what suffering this might cause her. I think that it was Heracles that was the real abuser to her, not Nessus, although she was too good a person to do anything about it but suffer her husbands repeated infidelities with grace and stoicism. Nessus was the wild card that entered her life and who may have seemed scary at the time but who actually did her a favour by giving her the magic potion that killed Heracles. She was not a murderer, her intentions were good, but it was nevertheless a kind of poetic justice that she became the blameless instrument of moral justice served on Heracles that he thoroughly deserved. As such, Dejanira can represent the place in your chart where you may be the target of someone else’s shoddy treatment, but at the same time you unwittingly possess a gift or the means from an unlikely source that will magically turn the tables on them in the end without you having to act with malice or ill-intent.
jerk :P Read this article before, and I don't like this asteroid -.-
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50010 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 11, 2012 01:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by ariesdragon: What do u love about dejanira ami?
I don't love Dejanira per se. She is the victim archetype. I am fascinated with her as I am with Nessus as they are dark parts of human nature and we all are fascinated with it unless I am the only one
------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4365 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 11, 2012 01:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: jerk :P Read this article before, and I don't like this asteroid -.-
Lmao I know I know it was heavy wasn't it? IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 11, 2012 01:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I don't love Dejanira per se. She is the victim archetype. I am fascinated with her as I am with Nessus as they are dark parts of human nature and we all are fascinated with it unless I am the only one
Deja squares my Moon 2degs, I refuse to be a victim :] IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 11, 2012 01:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by ariesdragon: Lmao I know I know it was heavy wasn't it?
Haha ya alil It's cracks me up that everytime I insult you, you just laugh it off. Talk about taking the fun out of being a bully LOl IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4365 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 11, 2012 01:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: Haha ya alilIt's cracks me up that everytime I insult you, you just laugh it off. Talk about taking the fun out of being a bully LOl
LOL trust me names don't hurt and I like how you're being real... I'd rather the truth than a lie
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ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4365 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 11, 2012 01:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I don't love Dejanira per se. She is the victim archetype. I am fascinated with her as I am with Nessus as they are dark parts of human nature and we all are fascinated with it unless I am the only one
No ami you're not the only one I'm fascinated too
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50010 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 11, 2012 01:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: Deja squares my Moon 2degs, I refuse to be a victim :]
Hmmm--do you have the victim part of yourself war against your deepest emotions? Is it a struggle?
------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 11, 2012 01:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by ariesdragon: LOL trust me names don't hurt and I like how you're being real... I'd rather the truth than a lie
Haha well Ty I try ^^ if you ever need someone to call you names I'm here for ya lol IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4365 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 11, 2012 01:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: Haha well Ty I try ^^ if you ever need someone to call you names I'm here for ya lol
Ya no thanks lol IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 11, 2012 01:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Hmmm--do you have the victim part of yourself war against your deepest emotions? Is it a struggle?
I guess I have moments where I tell myself that "everyone makes mistakes, it's not the end of the world, don't let people get to you" etc. etc. when i'm upset. but I have a natural fight in me which I think comes from my sun-mars-pluto stellium. IP: Logged |
Moonfish Moderator Posts: 4264 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 11, 2012 01:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by ariesdragon: Ya no thanks lol
well fo-get chu then :P lmao IP: Logged |
s4nd Knowflake Posts: 487 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 11, 2012 09:17 PM
i have these 2 conjunct natally in the 10th house 2 degrees. i abuse myself? lol! IP: Logged |