posted April 02, 2012 06:16 AM            

I need a bit of your help.

Since Eros/Amor/Cupido are all three mentioned as counterpart to Psyche (though I think we agreed that Eros was the strongest), I was investigating 12 synastries for aspects of Psyche to Eros, Amor, Cupido (synastry, composite, Davison).

The results were unexpected:

In all case there is an emphasis on the challenging aspects:

EROS-PSYCHE
synastry:
total: 4 couples had that
square: 2
opposition: 2

composite:
total: 1
square: 1

Davison:
total: 2
square: 1
opposition: 1

PSYCHE-CUPIDO

synastry:
total: 6
opposition: 2
quinkunx: 2
conjunction: 1
trine: 1

composite:
total: 1
quinkunx: 1

Davison:
total: 4
conjunction: 2
trine: 1
quinkunx: 1

AMOR/PSYCHE:
synastry:
total: 4
square: 2
trine: 1
opposition: 1

composite: 5
square: 4
quinkunx: 1

Davison: 2
conjunction: 1
sextile: 1

There were only 3 couples who did NOT have at least one synastric aspect of Psyche to Eros, Cupido or Amor.

These were
Johnny Cash- June Carter
Richard Burton - Liz Taylor
Pierre Curie - Marie Curie

Cash-Carter had:
Psyche-Amor-square in composite
Psyche-Cupido-conjunction in Davison

Burton-Taylor had:
Eros-Psyche-square in Davison

the Curies had:
Psyche-Amor-quinkunx in Composite
Psyche-Cupido-quinkunx in Davison

What surprised me so immensely were three occurences:

1. the frequence of Cupido/Psyche-aspects that seemed independent from Eros/Psyche in these synastries:
Diego Rivera - Frida Kahlo (opposition)
Laurence OLivier- Vivien leigh (quinkunx)
Paul and Linda Mc Cartney (conjunction)
Paul Newman - Joanne Woodward (opposition)

In the case of
Rivera-Kahlo
Mc Cartneys
Newman-Woodward

this was NOT balanced by an Eros/Psyche-aspect in either composite or DAvision, which brings me to the conclusion that they were operating independently

2. the emphasis on challenging aspects like square and opposition with a few conjunctions thrown in

3. the frequency of these aspects in DAvison compared to composite, which were pretty equal in number:

composite: 7 aspects (5 were Psyche/Amor)
Davison: 8 aspects (4 were Psyche/Cupido)

But what do I make out of this?
What does it really mean?

posted September 20, 2013 12:23 AM            

They have:
Linda's tr Cupido conj Paul's tr Psyche(0)
Linda's dr Cupido/Psyche mp oppose & contraparallel Paul's tr Psyche (0)
Paul's dr Cupido/Psyche mp oppose Linda's dr Solstice Cupido (0)

posted September 21, 2013 06:50 AM            

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Originally posted by karena:
Paul and Linda Mc Cartney actually have very strong Cupido-Psyche cantact, if you also take a look at their Draconic chart.

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They have already a very strong contact in tropical alone; conjunction on 8 Virgo exact.

posted September 23, 2013 06:25 AM            

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posted April 16, 2015 11:38 PM            

I've begun loading my asteroids box with 763,16,433 -- as I'm testing to see how much EROS versus CUPIDO hits.

posted April 17, 2015 07:20 AM            

my Psyche sextile his Eros, 1 min
composite Psyche trine Amor, 38 min (same in draco)

composite Psyche sextile Cupido, 43 min (trine in draco)
my draco Cupido trine his Psyche, 13 min
my draco Psyche trine his Cupido, 50 min

posted April 17, 2015 09:43 AM            

His Cupido conjunct my Mars
His H40/Cupido conjunct my Venus
My Cupido and H40 are conjunct on his Psyche/Venus conjunction which squares his Mars

My Cupido scorp@0.23
My H40 scorp@2.03
My Uranus scorp@4.44
My Kaali scorp@2.15
My Coventry scorp@3.55
His Venus scorp@1.20
His Psyche scorp@4.06
His Mars aqua@5.10

His Cupido gemini@28.07
My Mars gemini@29.33
His Coventry gemini@29.35
His Uranus virgo@28.52
His Kaali virgo@3.15

posted April 17, 2015 09:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
VP,

I've begun loading my asteroids box with 763,16,433 -- as I'm testing to see how much EROS versus CUPIDO hits.

To be honest, both have been, in my limited new research.

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same here.

For me personally it seems like Cupido aspects actually dominate, but this might be because my Cupido is out of orb for opposing my Psyche, but still rather near (4°07) and they are contraprallel (0°07), and Cupido also opposes Atropos (0°06) , so my natal resonance might make me susceptible for Cupido.

On the other hand Eros does happen as well, though interestingly often aspecting outer planets (preference for trine to Uranus and square to Pluto - yeah that generation. lol)

Well Eros is conjunct my Vertex (0°32) and opposing my Sun/Moon-mp (0°33) and widely conj. my Destinn (2°14)

so I guess I resonate with both.

posted April 17, 2015 03:32 PM            

19šN'34 (CUPIDO)
18šN'29 (EROS)

19šN'04 (PSYCHE)

posted April 17, 2015 04:36 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm most amused, I think, by this:

19šN'34 (CUPIDO)
18šN'29 (EROS)

19šN'04 (PSYCHE)

Even though they're slightly out of orb of being parallel (using standard orb) my PSYCHE is smack in the midst of both. Heh!

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posted April 17, 2015 07:27 PM            

quote:

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I've begun loading my asteroids box with 763,16,433 -- as I'm testing to see how much EROS versus CUPIDO hits.
To be honest, both have been, in my limited new research.

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This is interesting, I can start to look for Cupido/Psyche where there is an Eros/ Psyche link missing. Must check decs - do you use helio as well? I do often.

quote:

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Nevertheless my Psyche favours Cupido

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Are Psyche aspects needed, Ceridwen, for attraction to flow in your opinion? You know, for something to become real. There's probably other things to look for in their absence.

posted April 18, 2015 05:36 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by ail221:
Well they may not be soulmates or that soul mate pair doesn't apply to them.l

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Actually the soulmate-myth is related to Psyche and Cupido, NOT Eros and Psyche.
But Eros got more popular over the centuries, still the original text where we find the Eros-Psyche-story embedded in a framestory of the transformation of a man, over the way of being the "a**" he has been visibly transformed into (to match his inner donkey-ness) resulting into the initiation into the Isis-cult at the end o it, and the Psyche-Cupido-story comes right before his transformation back into a man and the initiation to the Isis-cult.

The naming of EROS for the god in that story might come from the paintings in the medieval age, but it is not there in the original story.

EROS is in fact MUCH OLDER than this story, and much more powerful than any of the olympic gods, being a primordial divine entity of creation, but he is not being paired in a story with Psyche, until the translations of the story in later centuries.

I do agree though that usually the natals determine which soulmate pairs are mostly "charged" for us.

posted April 18, 2015 05:39 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by VelvetPriestess:
Are Psyche aspects needed, Ceridwen, for attraction to flow in your opinion? You know, for something to become real. There's probably other things to look for in their absence.

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I donīt think they are so much "needed" as indicating a certain specific vibe to a connection.

posted April 18, 2015 05:48 AM            

I just thought about checking Apuleius (from whom the story originated), cause I seem to be unusually emotionally invested, maybe because I did a paper on that story, well the Cupid-part of it, interestingly (my friend did the Psyche-portion - it was a collaboration).

Anyway it is funny Apuleius is on 2 Scorpio in my chart, conjunct my Uranus (3rd ruler) by 40 minutes of arc, and additionally on the antiscion of my true BML in 3rd house (39 minutes of arc).

Yeah, I seem to get a little .... invested when anythings riles up my 3rd house Uranian Black Moon (and often it will be through an antiscion).

EDIT
Actually I remember an incident last year, when I found someone had stolen something I wrote on here on the distinction between Lilith and Priapus (under my previous username) and pretended it had been his essay. I KNOW of course that anything I write on the internet can be used by anybody, but this one time it really bugged me for some reason, and I approached the website owner where he published it telling her it was actually my stuff, and she corrected it (which I had not even expected at all!).

Turns out the guy in question had his Pluto on 2 Scorpio and BML on 2 Taurus, hence my own BML on 28 Aquarius was activated through the solstice axis, and I would even count my Priapus on 00 Leo, widely squaring that, and of course my Uranus on 01 Scorpio (pr Uranus on 2Scorpio).

It was an astrologically interesting experience.