posted June 12, 2012 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
Hey Linda.. do mine, do mine..LOL

My Karma at 27Libra, conjunct my 8th cusp.

Sextile mars
sq my NN
sextile Jupiter

Thats it, I think

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Lol, K I'll, try. I don't feel very confident tho. But if iQ comes back to this thread, maybe he can correct me if needed

So based on what iQ said - Karma fine tunes Saturn. Your Saturn from what I remember is conjunct the IC, in Gemini right? This would indicate difficulties related to your childhood and Mother (IC). In Gemini, it could mean perhaps in the way love was communicated to you inadequately. This could then carry over into your having difficulties in communicating feelings/love in your own family/marriage.

Karma in Libra - If we narrow the effect of Saturn above, Karma in Libra would indicate past issues related to relationships that need to be cleared so that balance and harmony can be achieved in your personal life. You may find it difficult to achieve this balance as Libra is a naturally indecisive sign as it keeps striving for that perfect balance.

In the 8th Karma could indicate issues related to 8th house matters including sharing of joint ownership within relationships/partnership/marriage including legal issues.

Provided the orbs are less than 2 degrees, Karma square NN could create difficulties in your fulfilling your destiny, depending on the sign and house position of your NN. Meaning that Karma in Libra (relationships) and 8th hse matters could create obstacles in your moving forward with your destiny in this life.

However, Karma sextile Jupiter and Mars could still provide you with windows of opportunities to push forward with your plans and your future, especially during good Jupiter transits.

If I remember correctly from another thread, you'd said you have Pluto in 7H Libra. I feel that your Pluto is your powerhouse and is going to give you the strength needed throughout your life to rise above most difficulties.

But because Pluto is in the sign as well as the house of relationships, you'll be able to use its strength provided you are willing to dig deep within yourself to transform (Pluto's domain) from your core in order to rise above your relationship and love Karma.

**EDIT TO ADD**

I would also be careful of being manipulated by others in relationships (one of the effects of 7th Pluto in Libra), especially covert manipulation by men who may use guilt as a form of manipulation.

posted June 12, 2012 06:46 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
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Can we consider Karma to be a sort of "mini Saturn" when in aspect to personal planet (or outer planets?) in the natal chart and in synastry or are its effects and the way it works completely different from saturn?
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Asteroid Karma helps us know the most important past "personal Action oriented" debts or rewards. Asteroid Karma has no effect whatsoever in our genetic or neurological structure but Planet Saturn packs a punch. In a certain way, Saturn IS Astrology. The Matrix of unemotional "Archons" who record every reaction of ours based on the impulse from Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Asteroids and Jupiter is Saturn personified, coldly waiting to punish or reward. Punish or Reward as long as your Soul stays in the Game of Maya.
Saturn will tempt [Remember Agent Smith of Matrix? ] through ambition if he detects you are about to escape this 3D Prison with a little help from Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.

Most of our Corporate Barons, Government Tyrants and Aristocrats/Monarchs are appointed almost personally by Saturn, based on their penances of previous births or Astral Existences.

Asteroid Karma has no such role.

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How is venus conjunct karma different from venus conjunct saturn?
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Venus conjunct Karma is a specific debt or reward in matters of love.

Venus conjunct Saturn comprises a broad spectrum: Interference of Old Relatives, Cash Restrictions, Potency Problems, Problems from Establishments or Orthodox Religions in matters of love, Greed, Sexual Ambition, Kidnapped into Prostitution by a Mafia don, Loss of health, Inability to feel the warmth of affection and even White Collar Crime related to banks.

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In my chart I have saturn conjunct karma in capricorn in the 6th house, widely (7�) conjunct my sun and tightly opposite my chiron. I've been wondering if it is a double dose of restrictions or if I'm supposed to repay my karmic debt through saturn, ie restrictions, limitations and responsibilities / duties in daily life.
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Not a double dose of restriction at all. Your second point is correct.

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posted June 12, 2012 09:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Lol, K I'll, try. I don't feel very confident tho. But if iQ comes back to this thread, maybe he can correct me if needed

So based on what iQ said - Karma fine tunes Saturn. Your Saturn from what I remember is conjunct the IC, in Gemini right? This would indicate difficulties related to your childhood and Mother (IC). In Gemini, it could mean perhaps in the way love was communicated to you inadequately. This could then carry over into your having difficulties in communicating feelings/love in your own family/marriage.

Karma in Libra - If we narrow the effect of Saturn above, Karma in Libra would indicate past issues related to relationships that need to be cleared so that balance and harmony can be achieved in your personal life. You may find it difficult to achieve this balance as Libra is a naturally indecisive sign as it keeps striving for that perfect balance.

In the 8th Karma could indicate issues related to 8th house matters including sharing of joint ownership within relationships/partnership/marriage including legal issues.

Provided the orbs are less than 2 degrees, Karma square NN could create difficulties in your fulfilling your destiny, depending on the sign and house position of your NN. Meaning that Karma in Libra (relationships) and 8th hse matters could create obstacles in your moving forward with your destiny in this life.

However, Karma sextile Jupiter and Mars could still provide you with windows of opportunities to push forward with your plans and your future, especially during good Jupiter transits.

If I remember correctly from another thread, you'd said you have Pluto in 7H Libra. I feel that your Pluto is your powerhouse and is going to give you the strength needed throughout your life to rise above most difficulties.

But because Pluto is in the sign as well as the house of relationships, you'll be able to use its strength provided you are willing to dig deep within yourself to transform (Pluto's domain) from your core in order to rise above your relationship and love Karma.

**EDIT TO ADD**

I would also be careful of being manipulated by others in relationships (one of the effects of 7th Pluto in Libra), especially covert manipulation by men who may use guilt as a form of manipulation.

PS: iQ please help! Any corrections needed? Thanks!

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posted June 12, 2012 09:19 PM            

Also, a few notable asteroids conjunct my Karma from what I've seen:

posted June 14, 2012 10:41 PM            

Karma (16 Cancer)is
only opp my ASC (-4A)

posted June 15, 2012 06:40 AM            

@ShyVirgoLady:
<<Interesting take iQ. My karma is in leo and saturn in virgo (also venus, sun, mercury in virgo). What is ur take on that? This baffles me to no end. All those virgo planets fall in my 6th house. If I use equal housing, then leo is on the 5th house cusp, virgo on 6th cusp. If I use placidus, my 6th house gets intercepted. Cancer on 5th house cusp (actually kinda describes me), leo is on 6th house cusp with virgo intercepted in that house. Do the houses play a role with Karma and saturn at all or am I looking at that wrong? >>
Houses play one of the most important roles. Choose the House System that fits [I use Equal House only because it solves the Scandinavian Summer charts conundrum.]
When you have so much Virgo and Karma in Leo, then you are
1) fated to make your Virgo Nature the center of attention
2) Focused too much on Self and Glamour in the past, so now you are working on dedicated work and normal routines that are not very glamorous, but which failed for you in the past [This is why Saturn is also here. The Wise say: We must do our Saturn correctly to make up for the past error.]

Another point which I mentioned a few years ago is that we must also focus on the opposite Sign of Saturn for good karma in this incarnation. This idea might hold for Asteroid Karma too. It has been helpful to me but I have not done sufficient research to state it as a fact.

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posted June 15, 2012 04:58 PM            

Thank u for responding. It kinda makes me think
actually.

posted June 19, 2012 06:19 AM            

Would love insight as to how Angel, Karma and DSC could be interpreted when in close aspect?

posted June 21, 2012 02:35 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
@LJ:
Very insightful and impressive answer to Lioness. You are saving me a lot of typing

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posted June 21, 2012 02:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
Woot woo... Linda your the next iq...

Your insight is always helpful and rings true..

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Nah, I could never be the next iQ. There's only one of him. Always will be.

posted June 22, 2012 09:24 PM            

Saturn in 8H, Lib 7°
- conjunct Atropos, exact
- conjunct Jupiter, 1° orb
- very loosely conjunct Moon-Atlantis, 9° orb
- square Mars, exact
- trine SN, 5° orb

Karma in 9H [Placidus] or 10H [equal], Sco 25°
- conjunct Mercury-Pandora-Babel, exact
- conjunct Uranus-Lancelot-Parthenope, 1° orb
- conjunct MC, 2° orb

SN in 1H, Aqu 13°
- conjunct Amor-Narcissus, exact
- conjunct AC, 1° orb

Of note, my Moon-Atlantis squares a 12H stellium of Apophis-Leukothea-Bellona-Poseidon-Boda, 2-3° orb.

Jupiter is kind of a saving grace for everything Saturn touches, but at the same time it's limited. Double-edged sword, if I've ever seen one.

posted July 20, 2013 07:33 AM            

Does my karma have to do with a delayed means of communicating/speaking my mind strongly to friends? Standing up for myself instead of being used as a doormat? Am I even in the ballpark here? Anybody with a thought please?

posted July 23, 2013 06:38 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
My Karma is in 11th house Aries exactly trine my mars in 3rd house Leo and opposite pluto in 5th house Libra at 3 deg. My saturn is in 3rd house Leo as well.

Does my karma have to do with a delayed means of communicating/speaking my mind strongly to friends? Standing up for myself instead of being used as a doormat? Am I even in the ballpark here? Anybody with a thought please?

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Hi tgem,
Trying to respond to your query here:

posted July 24, 2013 03:23 PM            

Karma sextile Venus, trine Mars indicates positive Karmic rewards. You may be lucky in both love and money and you will have the high energy levels needed to pursue your goals.

Given these positive aspects, Karma in Aries in 11th could mean that you have karmic lessons to learn related to your role in society, large organisations, balancing your needs between self and the needs of others. Karma opposite Pluto points to power, corporations, stock markets, inheritance on the one hand and spiritual transformation on the other.

Do you work for a large corporation or are starting a business? If you do in the future, you may find that your role there is key. You could be in a position to affect change. If your birth time is correct and it's related sabian, you could have the role to make sure that the earth organisation and its rules represent cosmic order. This could mean run an ethical business or ensure that the corporation has a conscience.

posted July 25, 2013 08:52 AM            

Would karma opposite pluto be a negative karmic aspect? I'm not part of any large organization now, but I'm getting back into the workforce after 8 years of being a housewife/stay at home mom.