posted July 12, 2012 11:40 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Sand you're blessed ~ In love (chiron involved)! Well more than most is what I dare to say with the current Magi knowlegde I have

Yea srry I got another focus point at first sight here, looking at the chart above,

To begin with, a *YOD* not 'just' a YOD but a CINDERELLA YOD! Chiron to the Neptune/Pluto sextile.
Ok, more of your age will have that so yes in one way or the other they're blessed with it. But in your case it's a pretty tight one! (remember the tighter the orb the more it will be felt).

But that's not all.. as your MOON (verrry personal) is making a second great *YOD*!
Neptune to the Chiron/Moon sextile.

These two YODS are 'working together' and for what I see (correct me if I'm wrong) they make a *FORTRESS*.
A Fortress is a four sided figure where two of the sides are parallel (see: your Pluto/Moon midpoint is only a few minutes apart from your Chiron/Neptune midpoint! ~ In Magi they call that a *MAGI QUAD* ~ with google you can find more about it).
I'm not aware of a *name* for this specific Fortress but I could be limited in name-giving to certain patterns as I'm not a Magi-member.
In this link a visual example of two Fortresses;
http://www.aztro1.com/education/planetary_geometry.htm

So yes, there's a Pluto/Moon square involved but in this great pattern it would be an absolute matter of *enhancement dominance*! Such significant geometry and especially ofcourse since Chiron (+ more than one cinderella linkage!) involved!

So without doubt the absolute focus of your chart! (it would surprise me if the enduring romantic love in your life will NOT have any significant connection to this pattern).

Okay back to euh...

ow yea.. well does it still matter now? hihi, Mercury DOES make a 'legal' little pattern to that Juno/Sappho one (both lines from Merc. within 3* if I'm not blind lol)

It seems so insignificant now

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Wow thank you thank you so much for all of that Mir!

I'm looking all those terms up.

I believe the pattern is some sort of mighty fortress..

Fortress
   Any rectangle with 2 parallel sides
         
Mighty Fortress: Fortress with sextiles for 2 sides

Gives great strength to the native or relationship in the areas symbolized by the planets involved in the Fortress. See Magi Planets
 
^from jovian's link

Also when u say they have to have a connection to this pattern.. Do u mean their planets have to aspect it?

Found this on Magi quads

posted July 13, 2012 09:39 AM            

(so what I wrote about the orbs only applies to SYNASTRY)

And well ofcourse that Juno/Sappho one with Mercury isn't symmetrical geometry!
http://www.jupitersweb.com/magi-astrology-orbs.html

Glad I'm still learning

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And yes you're right Sand, indeed one of a *MIGHTY FORTRESS*! (I keep learning )

And yes, I mean their planets to that pattern indeed. The very first or very last degree(s) of any sign would even make it pretty interesting here.
If someone else would set a planet on any of these empty points in your chart it would make - except for the round 0-sag and 0-can. points - a *MYSTICAL TRIANGLE* (any quincunx has 2 points for making one).
If someone placed one on 0-sag/0-can. it would modify (one of) your yod(s) into the so-called *BOOMERANG*.
But.. regarding the Romantic love it would be best if they place a planet on your (about) 0-Aqua/0-Libra points (if: Venus or Jupiter WOW!) as that would at the very least mean an RSL (Romantic Super linkage).
Also a planet conjunct your Neptune/Pluto/Chiron would be great as it would mean the same; an RSL. In fact with many of your age you already have this Cinderella Yod (so: an RSL) and that's why I prefer to see something more *special* like Venus!/Jupiter!/Mars/Sun etc. on these points....

This for now! If it's too complex just let it be let it let it be ..

posted July 13, 2012 11:39 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
This for now! If it's too complex just let it be let it let it be ..

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posted July 13, 2012 06:07 PM            

The link for the rare ones interested (then they'll know what I mean ) ;;
http://www.jupitersweb.com/page-53-magi-astrology-notebook.html

posted July 18, 2012 12:09 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
An interesting thing is that they won't use houses and all that stuff and to be honest it doesn't sound that unreasonable if you think about it. Because how to 'define' birthtime? (is what they saying) ..
If you hang a whole chart on just ONE moment in time like they do in standard astrology that would make a WORLD of difference if not an accurate b-time present. A WORLD-OF-DIFFERENCE does not convince at-all! (to me)
That exact most accurate way of interpreting does seem more like an effect of our current analytical time of perfection.
And instead of a focus on houses they use the Heliocentric sky which isn't that weird at all since we know the earth isn't the center of our universe. So you get a sense we hang on to the old times with a cramped hyper-modern tinge.. Staring at pics of our solar system could help to get more clearness or at least a wider perspective.

I know this isn't exactly an answer on your question but well just BUMP on astro-1! and we'll see what happens ;;

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