posted July 09, 2012 08:26 AM            

Vesta Aspecting Venus: Venus rules one's social skills and artistic abilities. More generally, it governs our ability to experience pleasure and be happy. Harmonious aspects ((conjunction, sextile and trine) with Vesta can make it easier to focus on these things. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) may indicate a tendency to avoid happiness by concentrating on work, or someone who has difficulty getting any pleasure from their work. Work could also be used to avoid social interaction. Conversely, this could be someone who only focuses on pleasure and social situations and refuses to work at all.

Vesta in Cancer: focuses on home and domestic matters. Good for any project requiring intuition and for focusing on the emotional or feeling side of any situation.

posted July 09, 2012 10:15 AM            

I also think it's no 'coincidence' that I'm involved now with someone who has this pattern natally of a *Mystical Triangle* between Venus/Jupiter/Vesta ~ talking about fidelity!

- Venus trine Vesta
- Jupiter quincunx Venus
- Vesta square Jupiter

The Mystical triangle is a strong geometrical pattern and the square here is simply being offset by both positive linkages.

posted July 09, 2012 11:27 AM            

I've always wanted to be looser and more relaxed with guys but I've prolonged dating, can't stand the idea of kissing someone who I haven't known for at least a short period of time, and I'm always the one who chides people about their romantic lives and being more discriminating with partners. When I get serious I've already considered, asking my boyfriend to get an STD test. I'm highly aware of what can go 'wrong' in romance, even though I don't like to be romantically involved often.

posted July 09, 2012 12:16 PM            

I have Vesta retrograde in Cancer in the 2nd, square Moon and Jupiter but trine Venus.

posted July 09, 2012 04:59 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Btw, I go with the MAGI-interpretation that the Quincunx is NOT a bad placement but more of a benificial one, so regarding Venus/Jupiter/Vesta you may all count the Quincunx (and also parallel and contra-parallel in dec./lat. if you know what I mean ) as being beneficial.

I also think it's no 'coincidence' that I'm involved now with someone who has this pattern natally of a *Mystical Triangle* between Venus/Jupiter/Vesta ~ talking about fidelity!

- Venus trine Vesta
- Jupiter quincunx Venus
- Vesta square Jupiter

The Mystical triangle is a strong geometrical pattern and the square here is simply being offset by both positive linkages.

Srry but I'm living more & more in geometrical patterns .. seeing the big sky-pic natally (and between charts) to not exclude anything of astrological importance is where I am at now! ; )

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Mmm... I'm down with enjoying the geometric patterns, as well, after reading up on the Magi stuff a while ago.

Here is a page of a Magi Astrologer about indicators of "Fidelity," "Serial Cheating," etc...with celebrity examples. (Many perceive the Magi interpretations as somewhat black-and-white and narrow-minded...but I find their celebrity analyses fun, and their concepts helpful to consider.):

About two-thirds down the page is a description of just what @mir says--harmonious aspects (according to Magi - conjunction, trine, quincunx, as well as parallel or contraparallel in declinations; and the same in helio latitudes) between any two of Venus/ Vesta/ and Jupiter were found to indicate a faithful nature:
http://magihelena.com/magi_love.htm#Couple_Examples

"Cheaters" is said to be indicated by aspects (this would include squares and oppositions, as well) between Juno and Sappho.

"Wanderers" - Venus, Mars, Pluto or Juno in aspect with Uranus.

posted July 11, 2012 10:24 AM            

Kevin Costner gained 10 Super Aspects from his marriage to Cindy Silva. During the marriage Costner wrote and produced "Dances with Wolves" which made hundreds of millions of dollars and won 7 Academy Awards. After their divorce, his next film was a notorious fiasco, and his career has never recovered.

posted July 11, 2012 10:26 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
My vesta sextiles Venus.

Vesta Aspecting Venus: Venus rules one's social skills and artistic abilities. More generally, it governs our ability to experience pleasure and be happy. Harmonious aspects ((conjunction, sextile and trine) with Vesta can make it easier to focus on these things. The stressful aspects (square and opposition) may indicate a tendency to avoid happiness by concentrating on work, or someone who has difficulty getting any pleasure from their work. Work could also be used to avoid social interaction. Conversely, this could be someone who only focuses on pleasure and social situations and refuses to work at all.
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The Faithful*: Linkage between any two (or more) of these: Venus, Vesta, or Jupiter

I have Venus trine Jupiter too.

posted July 11, 2012 10:34 AM            

Wait my Juno conjuncts Sappho!

Sappho 24Gem06

posted July 11, 2012 11:06 AM            

Magi Aspects include...

conjunction, trine, quincunx, square, and opposition.

All the above aspects are allowed an orb of three degrees...so, that aspect of yours--the Juno/Sappho conjunction--would be just wide. However, it may still be significant. If it is involved in aspects with other planets, especially making a geometric pattern, an orb of up to four degrees is allowed, according to Magi. You'll have to read up on it all. Personally, I'd say it is likely significant. ...Like I said--we have conflicting urges within us, right?

I think I've got a few of the so-called "Degraded Sexual Aspects" that she also describes on her page of Sexuality in Magi Astrology. lol

posted July 11, 2012 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by VelvetPriestess:
Vesta conjunct Pluto might mean celibacy! (I have it and it's been a while)

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Hi Princess. If you are interested, in the Magi astrology world, here are the keywords for those two planets:

Pluto
Power of all kinds and preservation of power, powerful people, entrepreneurs, big business, great wealth, investments, banking, stocks, bonds, the stock market, capitalism, professional sports, lust, raw sexuality, intensity, extremism, oppression, obsessions, secrets, mysteries, possessiveness, jealousy, greed, research, metamorphosis, destruction and rebirth, inevitable change, detectives, nuclear power and weaponry.

Vesta
Friendship, fans, loyalty, gentleness, harmony, compatibility, caring, giving, social relationships, trust, altruism.

posted July 11, 2012 01:46 PM            

Sands Juno/Sappho conjunction is indeed too wide IF it's a *stand-alone* aspect (so if there's no other planet involved) - The *stand-alone* has an allowable orb of max. 3* degr.
We may expand the orb - of ONE arm! - to a maximum of 4 degr. in a 3-planet configuration IF (at least) one of the 3 arms is a LINKAGE (= conjunction/trine/quincunx/[contra-]parallel)
Since Sands aspect is already a LINKAGE (conjunction) the aspect involved may even be a Sextile or Semi-sextile but remember that both lines to Juno AND Sappho have to be within 3*!

Ofcourse, the smaller the orb the more influence so even IF it's an allowed 3-planet configuration the cheat-tendencies are less worrisome than with a much tighter orb.

But.. we may not exclude Sands Venus/Jupiter trine (a LINKAGE!) and the same orb-rule as above for this one.

- Venus trine Jupiter
- Venus sextile Vesta
- Jupiter (opposite/sextile?) Vesta

posted July 11, 2012 03:41 PM            

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In one meaningful expression, VESTA is the sacred prostitute, sometimes called the temple priestess. Sacred prostitution means offering oneself sexually in the service of creation, or the service of Goddess, as you wish, but often a person is the direct beneficiary. This is the kind of erotic sharing that is neither romantic nor casual.

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posted July 11, 2012 07:18 PM            

I don't think they form any patterns since the conjunction is basically naspected in my 8th.

With 1-1.5 degree orbs for parallels my vesta is parallel moon and contra parallel Jupiter.

Sappho is parallel Sun and Chiron, contra parallel mars.

posted July 11, 2012 10:50 PM            

Well, since you put your chart up, I am checking that Vesta-Jupiter linkage in the declinations that you mention. But I don’t see it. In the Geocentric declinations, Vesta is at 22.39 S, Jupiter at 24.22 N – too wide.

In Heliocentric LATITUDES, there is no connection. Were you perhaps looking at the heliocentric declinations? If so, that is incorrect. In the heliocentric chart, you look at the latitudes (representative of how north or south of the earth’s ecliptic orbit the planet is, as viewed from sun. That is why you will notice that Earth is always at 0.00 latitude.)

In heliocentric chart, I notice a Venus-Vesta square, but this does not qualify as one of Magi Helena’s “faithful” aspects, since it is not a “linkage,” (i.e., a positive, or “enhancement” aspect in Magi terms).

The only other thing I notice of the above-mentioned themes is only one of the “Wanderer” aspects—in the heliocentric latitudes. Mars at 0.1 N parallels Uranus at 0.2 N. Notice in the Magi terms that helio latitudes are allowed only a 0.3 degree orb. That is, 3/10 of a degree, in their way of notating. (This translates to 0.18, in the usual way we add and subtract 60 minutes of a degree.)

Also notice that the “Wanderers” aspect she has come up with can be any Magi aspect, not just a “Linkage” or positive aspect.

No worries… That’s nothing--I have the Mars-Uranus connection in three places, and the Venus-Uranus in another! Though I've had many relationships, I am loyal and take relationships very seriously. Well, okay...in my younger days, I did have some dramatic overlapping relationships--too much relationship karma I had to tie up this time around--what can I say? It wasn't a fun time.

I have none of the "Faithful" aspects, as defined by Magi Helena. I do have Venus trine Earth/Moon in helio, if that holds any water with AquaGuy's original theory.

...The Magi viewpoints can seem severe and damning. It’s all about knowing yourself.

posted July 11, 2012 11:26 PM            

The geocentric were apparently what I was looking at with those same values. Must have just calculated wrong.

Thanks for the other stuff.. So that mars Uranus would be pretty significant since it is pretty tight right?

What does the Venus vesta square indicate?

posted July 12, 2012 08:02 AM            

Yea srry I got another focus point at first sight here, looking at the chart above,

To begin with, a *YOD* not 'just' a YOD but a CINDERELLA YOD! Chiron to the Neptune/Pluto sextile.
Ok, more of your age will have that so yes in one way or the other they're blessed with it. But in your case it's a pretty tight one! (remember the tighter the orb the more it will be felt).

But that's not all.. as your MOON (verrry personal) is making a second great *YOD*!
Neptune to the Chiron/Moon sextile.

These two YODS are 'working together' and for what I see (correct me if I'm wrong) they make a *FORTRESS*.
A Fortress is a four sided figure where two of the sides are parallel (see: your Pluto/Moon midpoint is only a few minutes apart from your Chiron/Neptune midpoint! ~ In Magi they call that a *MAGI QUAD* ~ with google you can find more about it).
I'm not aware of a *name* for this specific Fortress but I could be limited in name-giving to certain patterns as I'm not a Magi-member.
In this link a visual example of two Fortresses;
http://www.aztro1.com/education/planetary_geometry.htm

So yes, there's a Pluto/Moon square involved but in this great pattern it would be an absolute matter of *enhancement dominance*! Such significant geometry and especially ofcourse since Chiron (+ more than one cinderella linkage!) involved!

So without doubt the absolute focus of your chart! (it would surprise me if the enduring romantic love in your life will NOT have any significant connection to this pattern).

Okay back to euh...

ow yea.. well does it still matter now? hihi, Mercury DOES make a 'legal' little pattern to that Juno/Sappho one (both lines from Merc. within 3* if I'm not blind lol)

posted July 12, 2012 08:59 AM            

Planetary keywords from http://magihelena.com/magi_lessonsyms.htm

Vesta
Friendship, fans, loyalty, gentleness, harmony, compatibility, caring, giving, social relationships, trust, altruism.

Venus
Beauty, grace, manners, pleasure, affection and attraction but not true love, charm, diplomacy, harmony, balance, cooperation, poise, fashion, luxury, jewelry, transitory money & possessions, comfort, what we value, taste in people and objects, female sexuality, seduction, lovemaking, indulgence, hedonism, laziness, vanity, superficiality, victory.

posted July 12, 2012 09:17 AM            

http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/daily-astrology/vesta-astrology/