posted August 18, 2012 07:18 AM            

Interestingly my sidereal chart is only about 4 degrees off my secondary chart.

Concerning the midpoints I found something very interesting.

sidereal Sun/Moon-mp 26 Sagittarius
helio Earth/Moon-complex of course 26 Gemini
tropical Sun and Mercury 26 Sagittarius

Does that mean I have integrated the Yin and Yan into my personality and balanced it in a past life, and now express this through my tropical Sun-Mercury?

Also
tropical Venus/Mars 21 Sagittarius
helio Venus/Mars 21 Sagittarius

which is also the degree my prenatal Solar Ecclipse happened.

sidereal Venus/Mars-mp: 25 Scorpio
tropical Venus/Pluto-mp: 23 Scorpio
helio Venus/Pluto-mp 28 Scorpio

and

Draco Venus/Mars-mp 10 Aries
sidereal Eros/Psyche-mp 12 Aries

and evenmore so

tropical ERos/Psyche 7 Taurus
helio Eros/Psyche 6 Taurus

So two midpoints occupy the same place in tropical and helio (Venus/Mars and Eros/Psyche) - but since from heliocentric view the personal planets DO move quite a bit, that is not the usual, or is it?

posted August 18, 2012 07:27 AM            

1)
tropical Vertex and Eros: 21 Cancer
tropical Sun/Moon mp: 21 Capricorn

Draco IC. 24 Cancer

sid Moon: 22 Capricorn

helio Venus: 20 Capricorn

(ther Draco axis might be a bit wide though)

2)

tropical Sun and Mercury: 26 Sag

sidreal Vertex and Eros 26 Gemini
sidreal Sun/Moonmp 26 Sagittarius

helio Earth 26 Gemini
helio Mercury 23 sag
helio Eros 29 Gemini

the helio Eros might be a bit far off, but I found it interesting that my helio Eros is quite close to my sidreal Eros.

3)

tropical ASC 7 SAg
Draco Moon 7 Gemini
helio Neptune 9 Sag

4)

tropical MC 5 Libvra

Draco Karma 5 Libra

sid Uranus 7 Libra

helio Pluto 7 Libra

5)

tropi NN and Neptune 10 Sag

Draco Moon 7 Gem
Draco Psyche 13 Gem

sid. Venus 11 Sag

helio Neptune 9 Sag

6) trop Jupiter: 11 Pisces (chartruler)

Drac Venus/Pluto-mp: 12 Pisces

sid IC 10 Pisces
sid Pluto 14 Virgo

helio Psyche: 13 Pisces

7)

trop Karma 16 Gem
trop Venus/Mars-mp and pne: 21 Sag

Drasco BML: 18 Gem

helio Karma: 20 Gem
helio Venus/Mars-mp: 21 Sag

8) trop. Amor: 2 Sag

sid Sun: 1 Sag
sid Mercury: 0 Sag

helio Angel: 2 Sag

9)

trop Valentine: 27 Scorpio

sid Venus/Marsmp: 25 Scorpio

helio Venus/Pluto-mp 28 Scorpio

10)

trop Venus7Pluto-mp: 23 Scorpio
sid. Venus/Mars-mp: 25 Scorpio
helio Mars: 22 Scorpio

11)
trop Eros/Psyche-mp: 7 Taurus

Draco SAtrn: 6 Scorpio
(Dr Eros: 10 Scorpio)

(sid Mars: 10 Scorpio)
sid Amor: 7 Scorpio

posted August 18, 2012 11:28 AM            

"he Sun-Venus conjunction with an orb of 11° in the Tertiary Directions I (using the mean solar day after birth) proves to be a significant indicator for a marriage."
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/when-to-marry.html

For me that would be the case end of 2015. lol
The tp Sun/Venus-conjunction will be on 27 Gemini then opposing my Sun and DESC-ruler Mercury.

Funnily this guy also has a tertiary progressed Sun-Venus-conjunction the same year, it will be exact only a few months earlier (I was checking for the exact conjunction, even though I read that the orb can be up to 11°, which means that from next january or so my Sun/Venus-conjunction will come into orb.

Interesting.

On the cosmitec site it said that women ofte marry when their pr Moon is conjunct pr DESC. (secondary progressions).

For me this will be in june/ july 2013.
AT that time the TP Sun/Venus conjunction is applying with a wide orb, 9°, which is still within the 11° frame, but for my taste still a bit wide. lol

posted August 20, 2012 02:23 PM            

Ahhh.. I see. I sensed this already.

"To love pure and chaste from afar"....

Just he doesn`t let me. He just won`t stay on this pedestal, wonīt stay hidden in distant fog.

Instead, though it is him on stage, he sees me.

I really didnīt think so much of it, when we had that chat, and I was asking him for his birthtime (and he didnīt know so he called his parents in the midle of the night, after a show. lol).

That chat left me, well buzzing with a strange kind of energy all night (and it is still ike this, whenver I have seen him, esp. in his physical proximity, and we are in the same town afterwards, sleep will be far away. lol It is just this buzzing electricity, but it feels very recharging to me)."

Interesting.

"I disappeared without a trace after this meeting, cause I was too overwhelmed and scared and all my personal insecurities from past and present were breaking open like a badly healed wound. He felt threatening to me. Not he himself, but threatening to my comfort; he shouldnīt affect me like that, so easily slip through all my defenses (and I have STEELY defenses)."

Chiron.

"But even after 2 years, he seemed to recognize me, which is pretty unlikely, I still think.

WE didn`t talk after the first chat, cause, well, I am not doing the "fan-thing" and wouldnīt know what to say anyway. WEll, except for last year when he literally hopped off stage (cause he wanted to connect with his audience on an eye-to-eye-level as he said) and teased me publicly (but not painfully) cause he had noticed that I really tried hard to ignore him so I wouldn`t attract any attention. LOL

So, it is actually hard to define the connection for me. It is not really a connection, as we are not really in each other`s life. But then on the other hand it is not a completely non-connection either."

Of course not! It is a connection.

"Whatever it may be though, he facilitates so many intense spiritual/ emotional experiences in me. Every time. He is shaking me up, he is sneaking under my skin, and for the first time in my life I have the feeling as if I am not in complete control of my feelings. I always let my mind take the reins, but when this man is around, I donīt know what takes the reins, but it clearly is not my mind. lol
He affects me on a very instinctual level I think, and I have no clue what that means or what to do with this."

Just follow your intuition. Whatever he meant to do for you it is being done through this.

"I share this with someone in Tropical synastry. Except it's my Pluto/Psyche conjunct his South Node exact."
Wow, that sounds very powerful and deep.
OH well, actually my natal Pluto on 9 Libra is trine my SN exact.

Yeah. One of my past life loves. Nice Karma there.

"Actually I was so surprised. I was waiting outside the theatre for him, and actually tried to merge with the shadows. There was a wall, I could lean on. I was in the background, and dressed all in black, and actually I had already decided I was silly and wanted to turn back and leave without having spoken to him; I mean I definitely saw those young women, younger than me, definitely prettier and I donīt know what.
But the moment I wanted to leave the door opened, and he came out, and it surprised me so much, that he was steering directly towards me, not even paying attention to the "It-girls", until they stepped into his path."

Ahhhhhhhhh! That is so amazing.

"Hmmm... what aspects does your Chiron make? Could be some pain or healing.."
Well my Chiron needs healing URGENTLY.
It is squaring my Eros/VErtex-conjunction exactly and also squars my Sun/Moon-mp."

I see. You have pain around fated encounters of the amourous kind. This also affects you deeply as it is apart of your inner self. The part of you that wants to be united and complete.

"The 25/ 26 degrees of Aries might be important though, as they trine my Sun/Mercury on 25-26 Sag, and conjunct my Draco Venus on 25-26 Aries."

Yes, yes! And this shows your inner knowing of the love you have the potential to have.

"Yeah. You turn him on."
LOL You think?
Well, he was certainly the first man who was ever sniffing at me within minutes of meeting. Actually no man has ever done that before.
Well, he was convinced he had smelled a certain fragrance, and was asking me about it, and I honestly told him that I was not having that fragrance (actually I didn`t have any fragrance at all, except for the shower-oil), but he was sceptic and disbelieving (why would I lie about something like this?) and that was why he was sniffing at me. So a reasonable explanation. Still what a weird meeting! lol
Too weird for my mind to comprehend."

posted August 20, 2012 02:32 PM            

For me I am done with duality and human consciousness. I have access to what true life is.. and compared to this plane.. it's completely inferior. My whole life I longed to 'go home' although I never knew where it was or what it was. And now that I know, I am prepared to leave this place. I feel so happy and I know my soul will never die and in the planes of bliss is where I will go. After I complete my mission in the Age of Aquarius of course. But what makes this whole thing even more intense and beautiful, is that my life was full of trials and tribulations and I never gave up. Brings a tear to my eye just thinking about it. For someone born into darkness and overcoming it with the light, is much more powerful than a being of light never having gone through darkness. This is why Angels who have never been men long to become men. To complete this evolution.

"But yes theoretically I think the connections between sidreal and tropical would be strong in the last lifetime.
Maybe if a couple spends their last lifetime together and will maybe not meet again, there would be alsot strong connections from one sidreal to the other tropical?"

posted August 20, 2012 02:50 PM            

Which means all the angles, houses and Moons are incorrect, if a certain event took place in the middle of the month for example.

posted August 22, 2012 01:42 PM            

I always found the line up of planets between that guy and me very interesting.

Our ASC`s are not square in orb, though his ASC is conjunct my Draco ASC exact, and his ASC-ruler is in my ASC-sign (Sag) and my ASC-ruler is in his ASC-sign (Pisces) and in mutual reception.

Using traditional rulers, his ASC-ruler is EXACTLY opposite mine.
His DESC-ruler is conjunct my ASC and squares my ASC-ruler. and my DESC-ruler is conjunct his ASC-ruler and square his ASC.

The dispositors of our respective Sagittarius,stellium, are exactly opposite (his in Virgo - mine in Pisces).

his ASC-ruler is conjunct my prenatal solar ecclipse. my ASC-ruler is conjunct his prenatal lunar ecclipse.

his Sun/Moon/MC/mercury/Neptune (ASC-ruler) in Sag-
my Sun/Mercury/ASC/Mercury/Mars/Neptune in Sag

his Venus in Cap -
my Venus in Cap - my Saturn and Vertex in Cancer

his Mars/Jupiter/Saturn/Vertex/DESC in Virgo-
my Jupiter (ASC-ruler) in Pisces (plus a stellium in Draco chart)

his Uranus in Scorpio and Chiron in Taurus-
my Uranus in Scorpio

his Pluto in LIbra -
my Pluto and MC in Libra and Chiron in Aries

his BML in Leo-
my Moon and BML in Aquarius

(personally I find BML important as it is a lunar symbol).

Of these there are some in actual aspect; just the more important ones:

Sagittarius:
his Sun: 26 Sag
his Moon: 28 Sag
his MC: 28 Sag
his Neptune (ASC-ruler): 20 Sag

my Sun: 26 Sag
my Mercury (DESC-ruler): 25 Sag

------------

his Mercury (DESC and IC-ruler): 9 Sag

my Mars (IC-ruler: 5 Sag
my Neptune: 9 Sag
my ASC: 7 Sag

Capricorn - Cancer:

his Venus: 25 Cap

my Vertex: 21 CAncer
(my Saturn: 17 Cancer)

Virgo - Pisces:
his Mars (intercepted 1st house ruler): 11 Virgo
his Jupiter (MC ruler, trad. ASC-ruler): 10 Virgo

my Jupiter (ASC-ruler): 11 Pisces

(his Saturn/VErtex/DESC lands exact on my Draco DESC)

Leo - Aquarius
his BML: 28 Leo
my BML: 28 Aquarius

posted August 22, 2012 02:21 PM            

Aquarius - Leo
his pr Sun and pr Mercury: 00 Aquarius
his pr BML: 27 Leo

my pr Sun: 4 Aquarius
my pr Mercury: 22 Aquarius
my pr Venus: 23 Aquarius
my pr BML: 26 Aquarius

Pisces - Virgo:
his pr Venus: 6 Pisces
his pr Moon: 14 Pisces
his pr Jupiter: 9 Virgo
his pr Mars: 15 Virgo
his pr Saturn: 26 Virgo

my pr Jupiter: 17 Pisces

Sagittarius - Gemini:
his pr Neptune: 21 Sag
his pr ASC: 00.02 Gemini!

my pr Neptune: 11 SAg
my pr Moon: 27 Gemini

Capricorn - Cancer:

his pr MC: 28 Cap

my pr Mars: 2 Cap
my pr ASC: 8 Cap
my pr Saturn: 13 Cancer

(that covers the personal planets, interestingly his Sun and DESC ruler have JUST progressed into hte sign of my natal Moon; and my progressed Moon had been opposite his Sun/Moon/MC-stellium, and after that will start progressing into an opposition with his Venus).

posted August 22, 2012 02:29 PM            

"Our ASC`s are not square in orb, though his ASC is conjunct my Draco ASC exact, and his ASC-ruler is in my ASC-sign (Sag) and my ASC-ruler is in his ASC-sign (Pisces) and in mutual reception."

That's rather interesting. Shows a certain type of familiarity. I guess it would depend what planets the signs are occupying to get a clearer picture.

"Using traditional rulers, his ASC-ruler is EXACTLY opposite mine.
His DESC-ruler is conjunct my ASC and squares my ASC-ruler. and my DESC-ruler is conjunct his ASC-ruler and square his ASC."

I've often wondered if we should use traditional rulers, but then I realized that we must use outer planets now because when they were introduced the the solar system it reflected an expansion of human consiousness. So those of us alive now are apart that expansion. But it still gives food for thought. Maybe something from before these planets were discovered? Actually I think Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto were always known by the great adepts. Still very powerful points.

"The dispositors of our respective Sagittarius,stellium, are exactly opposite (his in Virgo - mine in Pisces)."

I'm not too keen on dispositors.

"his ASC-ruler is conjunct my prenatal solar ecclipse. my ASC-ruler is conjunct his prenatal lunar ecclipse."

Your separate life forces were made to exactly affect the life path of each of you.

"his Sun/Moon/MC/mercury/Neptune (ASC-ruler) in Sag-
my Sun/Mercury/ASC/Mercury/Mars/Neptune in Sag"

That's alot of Sagittarius universal energy.

"his Venus in Cap -
my Venus in Cap - my Saturn and Vertex in Cancer

his Mars/Jupiter/Saturn/Vertex/DESC in Virgo-
my Jupiter (ASC-ruler) in Pisces (plus a stellium in Draco chart)"

I guess this would depend what Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn rule in his chart.

"Sagittarius:
his Sun: 26 Sag
his Moon: 28 Sag
his MC: 28 Sag
his Neptune (ASC-ruler): 20 Sag

my Sun: 26 Sag
my Mercury (DESC-ruler): 25 Sag

his Mercury (DESC and IC-ruler): 9 Sag

my Mars (IC-ruler: 5 Sag
my Neptune: 9 Sag
my ASC: 7 Sag"

This is some serious projection.

"EDIT:
BTW I read that book by Ruth Aharoni you recommended."

posted August 22, 2012 02:50 PM            

"I guess it would depend what planets the signs are occupying to get a clearer picture."
Pisces and Sagittarius.

"I've often wondered if we should use traditional rulers, but then I realized that we must use outer planets now"
I am using both; the discovery of the outers didnīt make the traditional ones suddenly wrong; the outers often have a stronger spiritual/ transformative/ transcendending overtone, while the traditional ones are more "pragmatic" and everyday-life-oriented.
Though the effects of the outers are so intense.

"I'm not too keen on dispositors."
Hmm. Intersting. I wouldnīt do an analysis without them.
Actually Ruth Aharoni mentions them in her book as well, when she comments on the signficant planets she includes the dispositors of Sun and Moon.

"That's alot of Sagittarius universal energy."
Yes.

I am very drawn to Sagittarius-energy and to Pisces or Sagittarius-ASC.

"I guess this would depend what Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn rule in his chart."
Ist, 8th, 10th and 11th.