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IndigoDirae
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posted September 26, 2012 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeathIsanIllusion:
See also where Artemis and Diana are in your charts!



Hey, I'll play ball.

Artemis is curiously significant to me: on my Sun-Fortuna-Pluto. Artemis is also loosely conjunct his Sun. Diana is another story: 4º Taurus for me, and 9º Aries for him. It quindeciles some of my Libra and some of his Scorpio. But that's about it.

So, I'm curious. What pieces of the puzzle do Artemis and Diana fill in?

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posted September 27, 2012 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeathIsanIllusion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
All right, going off of the 'unconventional, fated / destined relationship' thing, I decided to give it a whirl.

Interestingly, Endymion is part of a strong 12H stellium in late Libra in the composite (Pluto-Saturn-Atlantis-Endymion, 27º50 - 29º18). Curious. I wasn't seeing that as part of the picture, but we're both flummoxed at times about how inseparable we truly are - even when it just becomes too much to deal with.

It's in a tight quindecile with Selene in the 5H, quincunx our Karma-Destinn conjunction across the ASC. (14º41 - 15º01 Scorpio.)

No synastric aspects. Nada. His Endymion's smack on my Eros-Destinn, close to Mercury-Lilith, (less than 2º), and sextile my Venus-ASC, (also less than 2º orb). Selene sextiles my Mars and squares my Karma. Meh. My Endymion (natally right on my Sun; I have a very youthful appearance) trines his Venus/Mars and Eros/Psyche, (less than 1º orb), and sextiles his Merc-Uranus. My Selene's trine Venus/Mars and Eros/Psyche. It's also quindecile his Sun.

Interesting stuff. Not sure I really quite buy into the delineations for it all yet. It certainly seems a bit reaching to just have any aspects from either Selene and Endymion to anything.

Am I missing something.

-A.


See also where Artemis and Diana are in your charts!

All three mean the same thing.
www.myastrologybook.com/Artemis-Diana-Selene-Phoebe-Luna-Hecate.htm

bestlatin.blogspot.com/2010/08/myths-and-legends-diana-and-endymion.html?m=1

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posted October 23, 2012 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After a bit more research
Constants: Selene or Endymion aspecting mercury, jupiter, juno, vesta/ceres a angular house and asteroids that symbolize karma or past life connection (Karma, destinn, or atlantis)

Antonio - Griffin

His to her
Endymion conjunct neptune exact
Endymion sextile pluto exact
Endymion inconjunct juno 2 orbs
Endymion trine selene 3 orbs(kinda wide)
Endymion square Endymion 1 orb
Endymion square Mc

Selene conjunct par fortune 2 orbs
Selene opposite Juno 4orbs ( too wide I know)
Selene inconjunct vesta exact
Selene trine Destinn 1 orb
Selene sextile lust 1 orb
Selene opposite asc

her to him
Selene opposite Jupiter 1 orb
Endymion opposite mercury exact
Endymion inconjunct venus 1 orb


Robert Browning- Elizabeth Browning

Him to her

Selene conjunct venus 4 orbs(a bit wide)
Selene opposite Juno 3 orbs
Selene sextile chiron 1 orb
Selene sextile BML 3 orb

Endymion trine mercury 2 orbs
Endymion bq venus exact
Endymion sextile jupiter exact
Endymion sextile NN exact
Endymion trine Par fortune 1 orb
Endymion inconjunct Endymion exact
Endymion sextile Atlantis
Endymion trine lust 2 orbs

Her to him
Selene square mercury exact
Selene square uranus exact
selene sextile ceres 3 orbs

Endymion conjunct moon exact
Endymion square jupiter exact
Endymion inconjunct NN Exact
Endymion opposite BML 2 orbs
Endymion conjunct vesta exact


Humphrey Bogart --Lauren Bacall

Selene trine Sun 4 orbs(too wide)
Selene trine mercury 4 orbs (wide)
Selene sextile uranus exact
Selene square neptune 2 orbs
Selene square nn 3 orbs
Selene trine Endymion exact
Selene inconjunct Atlantis 2 orbs
Selene inconjunct Destinn exact

Endymion trine sun 4 orbs( too wide)
Endymion square moon 1 orb
Endymion square chiron 3 orbs
Endymion square Juno 1 orb
Endymion trine Selene 4 orbs * included as a DW

Endymion square Karma 5 orbs
Endymion sextile Destinn 2 orbs
Endymion opposite ASc exact

Her to him
Selene square sun 1orb
Selene trine venus 3 orbs
Selene sextile jupiter 2 orbs
Endymion conjunct Juno 1 orb

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ail221
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posted October 24, 2012 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Continued (DW pair)=*
Rita Wilson- Tom hanks
Selene trine saturn 2 orbs
Selene trine uranus 2 orbs
Selene inconjunct Neptune 1 orb
Selene trine Karma 5 orbs *
Selene inconjunct Endymion 1 orb*
Her Asc trine his selene 1 orb
Her ceres conjunct selene 1 orb

Endymion square Jupiter 2 orbs
Endymion trine uranus 1 orb
Endymion trine Selene 4 orbs*
Endymion conjunct Karma 1 orb*

His to her

His selene trine uranus exact
Selene trine moon 4 orbs
Endymion conjunct her sun 2orbs
Endymion square moon 2 orbs

Juno-selene aspect is there but the orbs is way too high.

Laurence Olivier - Vivien Leigh

Him to her
Selene sextile Sun exact
Selene trine jupiter exact*
Selene Quntile Pluto exact
Selene opposite chiron 2 orb
Selene square Ceres 5 orbs*
Selene opposite Juno exact*
Selene inconjunct Vesta exact
Selene sextile Endymion 3 orbs
Selene trine Asc 1 orb

Endymion opposite Saturn 4 orbs
Endymion square Chiron 2 orbs
Endymion square Juno exact
Endymion sextile Vesta exact
Karma inconjunct Endymion 2 orbs
Endymion inconjunct Asc 1 orb

Her to him
Selene trine Jupiter 2 orbs*
Selene trine Neptune 2 orbs
Selene conjunct Vertex 3 orbs
Selene trine Ceres exact *
Selene conjunct Juno 4 orbs*
Endymion sextile moon 2 orbs
Endymion opposite Mars 1 orb


Edgar Cayce- Gertrude Cayce

Him too her

Selene square sun 4 orbs*
Selene trine venus exact
Selene conjunct pluto 2 orbs
Selene trine vertex 2 orbs
Selene inconjunct selene exact*
Selene sextile endymion 2 orbs*
Selene opposite atlantis exact
Selene trine Destinn 2 orbs

Endymion square saturn 1 orb
Endymion opposite NN exact
Endymion conjunct Pallas 1 orb*


Her to him
Selene square sun exact*
Selene conjunct jupiter 4 orbs (kinda wide)
Selene trine chiron exact
Endymion conjunct sun 2 orbs
Endymion sextile pallas 4 orbs*

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Ceridwen
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posted October 24, 2012 10:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ail221,

your "celebrity relationship set" looks like mine. I´ve got them all on my astro account as well.

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ail221
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posted October 24, 2012 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Antonio - Griffin
Composite
Endymion sextile NN exact
Endymion trine Sun 2orbs
Selene opposite Moon 1 orb
Endymion square moon 4 orbs too wide
Selene conjunct Venus 1orb


Robert Browning- Elizabeth Browning
Composite
Selene sextile Moon exact
Endymion square sun 3 orbs
Selene trine asc exact


Humphrey Bogart --Lauren Bacall
Composite
Endymion oppose moon 3 orbs
Selene oppose Endymion 2 orbs
Endymion square NN 1 orb

Rita Wilson- Tom hanks
Composite
Selene square Endymion 5 orbs too wide
Endymion trine asc 1 orb
Selene trine mc 1 orb
Endymion trine mars exact

Laurence Olivier - Vivien Leigh

Composite
endymion sextile moon exact
Selene opposite jupiter 1 orb
Endymion trine Asc exact


Edgar Cayce- Gertrude Cayce

Composite
Selene square asc 1 Orb
Selene conjunct sun and mercury 2 orbs
Selene square moon 3 orbs
Endymion square venus 1 orb
Endymion sextile mars 2 orbs

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posted October 24, 2012 10:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my own chart I have

ENDYMION on 25 Pisces conjunct ARTEMIS on 27 Pisces
(on my Stellium around Draco ASC on 26 Pisces)

sextile

SELENE on 24 Taurus


however, i do not agree that SELENE and ARTEMIS are interchangeable. Even though Artemis is associated with Selene as moondgoddess, the myths are different. For once ARTEMIS was REALLY virginal (in the modern sense even) and did not bother with love or intimate personal relationships, whereas SELENE clearly did.
What do you think?


I haven`t found strong Endymion-Selene-interaspect (only to each other) in my own synastries yet, but I suspect in my case they might come up in the Draco charts


(it might be that Artemis, Selene and Hekate are rather describing the different faces/ phases of the Moon goddess: Virgin, mother, crone. I think she might rather be associated with PHOEBE, the Moon, like Phoebus represented the Sun)


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posted October 24, 2012 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
In my own chart I have

ENDYMION on 25 Pisces conjunct ARTEMIS on 27 Pisces
(on my Stellium around Draco ASC on 26 Pisces)

sextile

SELENE on 24 Taurus


however, i do not agree that SELENE and ARTEMIS are interchangeable. Even though Artemis is associated with Selene as moondgoddess, the myths are different. For once ARTEMIS was REALLY virginal (in the modern sense even) and did not bother with love or intimate personal relationships, whereas SELENE clearly did.
What do you think?


I haven`t found strong Endymion-Selene-interaspect (only to each other) in my own synastries yet, but I suspect in my case they might come up in the Draco charts


I agree with you I don't think Artemis is interchangeable with Selene, she fiercely protected her virginity in most of the myths the only romantic partner who was really her hunting partner was Orion.

I have compared it with my parents charts and the only major aspect they have is His Selene conjunct my mother's saturn, and her Endymion conjunct his Karma so I suppose fated to meet but not to last.

Where my Mother and stepfather have
Selene inconjunct jupiter exact
Selene inconjunct Juno exact
Selene trine Endymion 1 orb
Selene opposite Asc 1 orb
Endymion trine moon 2 orb
Endymion conjunct Venus 3 orbs
Endymion conjunct Jupiter 2 orb
Endymion trine vertex 1 orb
Endymion sextile Chiron 1 orb
Endymion conjunct Juno 1 orb
Karma sextile Endymion exact
Her asc square his selene 3 orbs
Her Mc opposite selene 1 orb

His to her
Selene sextile Mercury 1 orb
Endymion trine chiron 1 orb
Endymion trine vesta exact


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posted October 27, 2012 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Katharine Hepburn and Tracy Spencer

Her Selene opposite his Endymion 3 orbs
Her Selene opposite Tyche 2 orbs
Her Selene conjunct his Fortuna 2 orbs
Her Selene trine His Karma 1 orb
Her Endymion oppose his Selene 5 orbs ( kinda wide

His Endymion trine her Jupiter exact
Her Selene square his Jupiter 1 orb

Composite
Selene oppose Endymion exact
Valentine conjunct Selene exact
Valentine opposite Endymion exact

Johnny Cash-June Cash Carter

His Selene opposite her Saturn 3 orbs
Her Endymion conjunct his Saturn 4 orbs kinda wide

Her Selene trine his Venus 3 orbs
His Endymion conjunct her venus 3 orbs

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bump... this is a great topic

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bump... this is a great topic

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Aww me and my boyfriend has his Endymion conjunct my sun and exact orb to my Diana, I think thats cute,.

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posted November 27, 2012 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kayteeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,

Does anybody know what the male's north node conjunct the female's selene in synastry mean and the males selene conjuct the female's moon? Female's Endyme's opposite the male's Pallas?

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posted November 27, 2012 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kayteeh:
Hello,

Does anybody know what the male's north node conjunct the female's selene in synastry mean and the males selene conjuct the female's moon? Female's Endyme's opposite the male's Pallas?


First what are the orb values?

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posted November 28, 2012 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kayteeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no idea what the orb values are.

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posted November 28, 2012 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kayteeh:
I have no idea what the orb values are.

How is that possible? did you take a look on Pdf file that lists all the aspects with their corresponding orbs?

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ail221
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posted November 28, 2012 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kayteeh:
I have no idea what the orb values are.

When you compute the synastry chart click additional tables and look for the number inside of the box of the aspecting objects.

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I'm so cappy
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posted May 30, 2013 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Selene conjuncts my Vertex by 1 degree (whatever that means ). Damn, I think I got addicted to checking out my asteroids

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posted May 31, 2013 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for black_rose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course..

I have Selene conjunct Endymion in Scorpio ..
both are conjunct my Venus and Eros!..
with Venus being my chart ruler.

When I read the myth, I knew they would be significant in my chart.. sailor moon definitely always struck a cord with me

OH and if you're familiar with the asteroid Deianira .. she is also all up in that stellium.

Hmmm.. no wonder my love life is a so dreamy/wretched

On that note.. my favorite little soulmate's name asteroid is right in that cluster in my natal also!

in SYNASTRY:
His Juno/Saturn/Aphrodite are conjunct my Selene/Endymion/Venus/Eros/Deianira

His Endymion/Valentine/Eros are conjunct my psyche/IC

His Selene is conjunct my Ceres/Lust


Definitely looking into these more!

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posted May 31, 2013 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the following in synastry.Been wondering how the asteroids work when one is squaring a planet which the other one is in harmonious aspect with.


for instance
His selene square her sun
His Endymion trine her sun

His selene trine her moon

His selene square her saturn
His Endymion trine her saturn

His selene conjunct her uranus
His selene opp her chiron


Her selene trine his mercury,and mars
Her selene sextile his uranus
Her endymion opp his venus
Her endymion trine Jupiter
Her endymion biquintile his chiron
Her endymion trine his MC

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This pair works for us. There is an interesting story emerging - here are a few of many exact aspects:

His Endymion conjunct my NN and Chiron,
Square my Karma

My Selene sextile his NN, trine his Mercury

So we have a past life link which brings us together - this may involve good communication and lead to healing of old or present wounds - which, incidentally, concurs with other aspects.

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posted February 11, 2014 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i thought this is hilarious if related to the Selene-Endymion myth.

" Zeta-Jones claims that when they met, he used the line "I'd like to father your children."

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posted February 11, 2014 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for summerlite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually don't really like the myth. The dream lover part is beautiful but i hate the idea Selene had 50 children with him when he was sleeping. lol. Took some time to really understand this.

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posted February 12, 2014 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Selene in Scorpio is opp. His Endymion in Taurus by 2 degrees!

There is a 10 year age diff. I am older ;-) , different social backround, different culture .
Family disputes!


But hey, who cares ??
other soulmate aspects Psyche and Eros sq.
Juno trine Jupiter exact.
Persephone trine Pluto

Just to name a few ;-)

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posted August 02, 2015 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are conjunct exact in our Draconic synastry.
And in the tropical synastry, they are conjunct each other's Sun, exact degree.
So pretty

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