posted September 18, 2012 11:35 AM            

The myth involves Selene, the moon goddess, who one night saw a beautiful young shepherd/astronomer named Endymion. She fell in love with the sleeping man and wished to make him immortal. According to the she remembered the fate of another mortal named Tithonus; Tithonus is a prince of Troy loved by Eos, the goddess of the dawn, who asked for Tithonus to be immortal so that they could be together forever, but Eos forgot to ask for eternal youth with immortality. As a result Tithonus lived forever but he physically continued to age until he, eventually turning into a grasshopper. It was a miserable fate for him to live eternally but he begged for death to take him. So Selene asked Zeus to grant Endymion( who was technically of demi-god lineage, he was one of Zeus's many children)for eternal youth instead. Zeus granted her wish with the condition that he fall into eternal sleep. The goddess was then able to love and caress him freely and without restraint, abandoning herself to her desire and love within his dreams. As a result, Endymion eternally sleeps forever, dreaming wonderful dreams, never nightmares and every night Selene showers Endymion with her kisses, and visits him in his dreams. She ends up baring him 50 children all daughters.

Personally I have always been in love with this myth not only because coincidentally selene prominent in my chart. But because it is connected with one of my childhood television shows "Sailor Moon" with is loosely based on the myth of Selene and Endymion. Within the television the main protagonist, Selene name becomes Serena(Sailor Moon) and her lover Endymion becomes Darien. In the beginning of the series we learn Serena and Darian have a past life connection were they were Serenity and Endymion star crossed lovers and much like the myth they could not be with one another within each other's realms, she was immortal and he was a prince of earth. But because of a tragedy everyone within the imperial kingdom was put into a deep sleep so that they could live out their lives within another lifetime. But even being separated by time and space they find one another and remembers their past life together.

So my theory is Selene/endymion aspects can indicated a combination of Venus/Uranus and Saturn romantic aspects, unconventional relationships, divided by age, status, race, love at first sight, long lasting even past life connection. These relationships just feel destined.
Examples of couples with this pairing:

Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward
Her Selene opposite his Uranus and Pallas
Her Selene Trine his Destinn
Her Endymion trine his Mercury, Venus, Jupiter,Destinn and Asc
Opposite his Saturn, Union, Selene, and MC
Sextile his Pluto, Pallas, Psyche

His Selene Trine her Sun, Venus, Destinn
Sextile her Saturn and Asc
Opposite her North Node, Chiron and Endymion
Conjunct her Union

His Endymion conjunct her Moon,Destinn and Amor
Trine her MC
Opposite her Vertex, Karma

Catherine Zeta Jones and Michael Douglas
Her Selene Sextile his Sun, Neptune, Amor, Union
Conjunct his North Node
Trine his Endymion
Opposite his Psyche

Her Endymion Conjunct his Moon
Opposite his Vertex and Juno
Trine his Eros and Pallas

His Selene her bi-quintile Pluto, and trine her Pars Fortune
Opposite her Eros
Sextile her Destinn

His Endymion sextile Mercury and Jupiter
Trine her Vertex and Selene
Opposite Pars Fortune.

Feel free to add your own aspects, the general soul mate/love asteroids; Eros, Psyche, Amor, Aphrodite, Adonis, Juno, Union, Destinn, Karma, Sappho, Spirit, and Aura.

posted September 18, 2012 12:09 PM              

In our composite chart we have

Selene 23'0 Virgo
Endymion 21'59 Cancer
Mercury 20'30 Pisces
Mars Capricorn 19'11
North Node 22'22 Pisces

posted September 18, 2012 01:43 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Cool..

In our composite chart we have

Selene 23'0 Virgo
Endymion 21'59 Cancer
Mercury 20'30 Pisces
Mars Capricorn 19'11
North Node 22'22 Pisces

Yes.. I wish for him to be immortal. Hahaha..

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posted September 18, 2012 01:59 PM            

I remember having this poem in mind before seeing that conjunction: http://www.gabrielditu.com/eminescu/diana.asp

Then, as usual, I went straight to the LL forums . You know the rest .

I think that these asteroids are a big clue to telepathic connections and other unusual forms of communications between two people before they actually meet in person, especially when Hypnos, Telephus, and Somnium are also implied.

To put it briefly, that anime had a huge impact on myself. It's one of the reasons why I'm an Astrologer now.

The guy I mentioned is Japanese and there's also an age difference.

posted September 18, 2012 03:31 PM            

* My Love. For clearing the situation - my Moon exactly on his SN, along with his Aphrodite and my Eros. Love from past lives, these asteroids should be relevant. We also have this psychic connection when one knows what the other one is doing or wants to say exactly the same thing.

My Selene square his Moon (1)
My Endymion square his Sun (1)
My Endymion trine his Galatea EXACT
My Selene conjunct his Saturn EXACT
My Endymion conjunct his Selene (2) !! Not exact, but still. I'm not surprised, so to say.

His Selene is conjunct my NN (1)
His Endyimon opposite my Moon EXACT, which also means that it's on his own NN EXACT, contributing to the story.
His Selene trine my Angel, Aphrodite and Amor, and Lust (1)
His Endymion trine my Mercury, Venus EXACT
His Endymion sextile my Mars EXACT
His Endymion opposite my Jupiter (2)

So, basically, wow. His Selene on my NN, and his Endyimon on his own NN, so this is headed into future. I know that this is not a last life when i know him, it's not ending here. Although now we cannot be together, my love for him doesn't end just like that.

I love the myth, will read about it more!

Amazing! I just read what you wrote about them in the beginning and thought that it's kinda about us! And here it is!

I think we shouldn't have met in this lifetime at all. It was not meant to be. I mean - what are the odds? We studied together in university. I never wanted to study this. I decided basically in the last days - where to go. My wish was in another field. But something pulled me here. And here i met him and recognized him instantly. But from the start i didnt' see the romance here, he did. I was blind. When i finally realised that he's THE one, he already had another girl, who looks very much like me, lol.

posted September 18, 2012 03:47 PM            

I definitely felt the love at first sight with this one person
My Endymion conjunct his Sun, Mercury, Venus,Karma and Amor
Sextile his Selene and Union
Trine his Pallas and Psyche

My Selene conjunct his Venus, Pars Fortune,Endymion and Karma
Sextile his Mars and Asc
Trine his Vertex, BML, and Psyche

His Endymion conjunct my Selene, Saturn and North Node
Opposite Sun, Jupiter, Chiron, Pars Fortune, Amor
Sextile my BML and Karma
Trine Eros and Psyche and Qunitile Juno

His Selene sextile my Endymion and North Node
Trine Mercury and Ceres
Quintile my Selene

Basically a possibly karmic relationship that still confuses me, slight age difference and cultural difference.

posted September 18, 2012 04:46 PM            

So -

Her Selene opposite his Moon EXACT
Her Selene opposite his Uranus (3)
Her Selene trine his Valentine
Her Selene square his MC EXACT
Her Selene trine his Lust EXACT

Her Endymion opposite his Venus EXACT
Her Endymion opposite his Neptune
Her Endymion conjunct his Chiron

His Selene conjunct her Sun
His Selene square her Neptune EXACT
His Selene conjunct her Psyche EXACT
His Selene trine her Amor EXACT
His Selene conjunct her Valentine
His Selene conjunct her Galatea
His Selene conjunct her Lust a dW!
His Selene conjunct her Hypnos

His Endymion conjunct her Chiron (!!!) A dW!

posted September 18, 2012 05:11 PM            

My composite:

They are not conjunct anymore, because 9 d is not a valid orb.
However, interesting other connections in here too.

Endymion conjunct NN EXACT
Well, technically, Selene too, but it's not serious.
Other than that, Selene is opposite Sun (1), opposite Amor EXACT
and trine ASC EXACT
Endymion trine Eros and square Union

In past lives composite, interesting that Endymion is exactly conjunct Chiron, by 2 minutes! So, basicaly, an emphasis here is on healing Endymion, and it continues now too, with that NN conjunction.

BTW, in composite, that NN - Endymion conjunction is in 5th.

posted September 18, 2012 07:38 PM            

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posted September 18, 2012 07:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Gray:
Am I understanding this myth right? She basically pets down and gropes a dude while he's unconscious and sleeps with him enough times (while he's not even in a position to give consent) to pop out 50 kids? Who needs roofies? lmao

I went ahead and plugged it into synastry with an ex of mine anyway though strictly because of the dream aspect - apparently I pop up in his dreams alot in one way or another, and I've had a couple unusual dreams where he literally crashed family reunions of mine and asked my aunts if he could move in with them...*blank stare*...but there were no real aspects involving these asteroids in the synastry. So I'm back to blaming Hypnos and a few other asteroids for all this crap.

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Yeah, I hate that reproduction part, too! That's why I said I liked most of it. As for the unconscious part, I see it in a different light.

posted September 18, 2012 07:59 PM            

@Grey
No Zeus did more of the roofing and groping it was kinda of his specialty. Selene and Endymion fall in love with one another by him spending his nights watching her from earth because he was a astronomer. And she falling in love with him because he invested so much time watching her. It wasn't a one-sided relationship he was a aware of the consequences of being immortal and youthful for eternity, having to remain asleep forever and she knowing that she'd only be able to communicate with him through his dreams.

posted September 19, 2012 01:08 AM            

Interestingly, Endymion is part of a strong 12H stellium in late Libra in the composite (Pluto-Saturn-Atlantis-Endymion, 27º50 - 29º18). Curious. I wasn't seeing that as part of the picture, but we're both flummoxed at times about how inseparable we truly are - even when it just becomes too much to deal with.

It's in a tight quindecile with Selene in the 5H, quincunx our Karma-Destinn conjunction across the ASC. (14º41 - 15º01 Scorpio.)

No synastric aspects. Nada. His Endymion's smack on my Eros-Destinn, close to Mercury-Lilith, (less than 2º), and sextile my Venus-ASC, (also less than 2º orb). Selene sextiles my Mars and squares my Karma. Meh. My Endymion (natally right on my Sun; I have a very youthful appearance) trines his Venus/Mars and Eros/Psyche, (less than 1º orb), and sextiles his Merc-Uranus. My Selene's trine Venus/Mars and Eros/Psyche. It's also quindecile his Sun.

Interesting stuff. Not sure I really quite buy into the delineations for it all yet. It certainly seems a bit reaching to just have any aspects from either Selene and Endymion to anything.

Am I missing something.

posted September 19, 2012 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
I will be adding this research to my database, excellent discovery. If it works for VenusdeIndia, it has to be extremely relevant.
Ali221, take a bow

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posted September 24, 2012 09:10 AM              

I have the conjunction in composite (in Pisces) with the one you mentioned was my Near Twin.

my Draco Selene opposes his Endymyon exact
his Draco Selene trines my Endymion exact

Funnily enough with the guy whom my path often crosses with:

his Dr Selene squares my Dr Endymion exact
his Dr Endymion opposes my Dr Selene (2)

posted September 24, 2012 04:49 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
All right, going off of the 'unconventional, fated / destined relationship' thing, I decided to give it a whirl.

Interestingly, Endymion is part of a strong 12H stellium in late Libra in the composite (Pluto-Saturn-Atlantis-Endymion, 27º50 - 29º18). Curious. I wasn't seeing that as part of the picture, but we're both flummoxed at times about how inseparable we truly are - even when it just becomes too much to deal with.

It's in a tight quindecile with Selene in the 5H, quincunx our Karma-Destinn conjunction across the ASC. (14º41 - 15º01 Scorpio.)

No synastric aspects. Nada. His Endymion's smack on my Eros-Destinn, close to Mercury-Lilith, (less than 2º), and sextile my Venus-ASC, (also less than 2º orb). Selene sextiles my Mars and squares my Karma. Meh. My Endymion (natally right on my Sun; I have a very youthful appearance) trines his Venus/Mars and Eros/Psyche, (less than 1º orb), and sextiles his Merc-Uranus. My Selene's trine Venus/Mars and Eros/Psyche. It's also quindecile his Sun.

Interesting stuff. Not sure I really quite buy into the delineations for it all yet. It certainly seems a bit reaching to just have any aspects from either Selene and Endymion to anything.

Am I missing something.

-A.

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See also where Artemis and Diana are in your charts!

posted September 26, 2012 07:34 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
I am not searching for the end all to be all synastry aspect. Originally I began searching for aspect that would explain great age differences and longest married couples, the couples I chose were the ones that were married the longest with some immediate difference that would deem their relationship odd. The secondly the other couples I originally planned on examining do not have confirmed TOB. So continue researching if you like, these may not match up to your database but I am still researching mine.

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Now THAT I get. I can see how it'd be indicative of complex interpersonal bonds where there's a sizable age difference and it seems there's no immediate understanding as to what's drawing the couple together.

BTW, it's 'be all, end all' or 'be all and end all'. I've been having too much fun on this iPhone app called 'Phrase Wit' lately. Helps to identify the misconstrued phrases that can be used with surprise frequency. 'Taken for granite' (that's a fun one) and 'the gig is up' (that one still makes me giggle). But I think my favourite is probably 'it's a doggy-dog world'.