posted October 08, 2012 10:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Anyone who had a personal planet touching my neptune is already going to think im gold, until i prove im not...but ive noticed if they conjunct my neptune its very shortly followed by, if not a first date topic of how beautiful our babies would be...puke...all i can think about is feeling as fat as a cow, not being able to sleep at night and having cankles...no thank you, what a turn off!!!
Seriously...this is not good first date material! "Check Please!"

I used to feel that somehow i was only seen as a baby maker until i realized that DNA was so close to neptune and could give that sweet adoring neptune energy a focal point! Does anyone else have an interesting or funny DNA placement?

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Gabby, I recently read an article by Peter Breggin, MD entitled, "Psychiatry's role in the holocaust *" (1993) -- He mentions that wrote this article for a presentation he made at a conference called * "Medicine without Compassion," (history of medicine in Nazi Germany).
http://www.brown.uk.com/teaching/HEST5001/breggin.pdf

Gabby, in other threads here in Asteroid Astrology, I've read about your open enthusiasm about hypnosis, and the power of brainwave training. Absolutely, the power of mind is a terrible thing... A force for good as well as harm. Who can truly discern?

Neptune makes fuzzy boundaries...

I would say to be careful of trance media you find off the internet. You can't be certain what you're actually hearing and seeing in the guise of self-help!

Mental hygiene is important:
common-sense and self-respect can be a condom when people are trying to eff with your mind ---

posted October 09, 2012 06:22 AM            

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Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted October 09, 2012 12:32 PM            

...I just plugged in Austria, for *some reason*, and found that it is currently the closest to my DNA -- just one minute away.

I do feel a past life in what feels like the Nazi Germany era, as the wife of a Nazi, or at least a sympathizer; though I feel I was more apathetic about the politics of the time, and simply felt rather unhappy in the marriage. Not sure if we were in Germany or other lands. ..Interestingly, I was one of a small group of 1st graders pulled from class to learn German once a week, at a school I was in briefly.

posted October 09, 2012 02:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hmm
I would think you were made to use your Neptune.

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posted October 09, 2012 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Jovian:
Funny, Gabby.

...I just plugged in [b]Austria, for *some reason*, and found that it is currently the closest to my DNA -- just one minute away.

I do feel a past life in what feels like the Nazi Germany era, as the wife of a Nazi, or at least a sympathizer; though I feel I was more apathetic about the politics of the time, and simply felt rather unhappy in the marriage. Not sure if we were in Germany or other lands. ..Interestingly, I was one of a small group of 1st graders pulled from class to learn German once a week, at a school I was in briefly.

I am one of those who has always loved watching The Sound of Music (set in Austria, as Nazi power was rising), FWIW. lol. Had the cassette soundtrack. Love to quote lines from the movie and songs from it often pop into my head.

...The next closest body, 18 minutes away, is fixed star Sinistra. According to Rob Tillett: "Immoral, mean and slovenly, depraved, lustful, wanton, infamous, scandalous, addicted to sorcery and poisoning." Hmm..on some level, I agree with some of those. Ha. Sorcery and poisoning, hmm...I did honestly want to do some kind of Hoodoo on a former roommate years ago, who I couldn't stand, to get her to leave the house! I even ordered some kind of powder online, to spread across her bedroom doorway, that was supposed to make her not want to re-enter! I can't believe I did this. ...I was just. so. aggravated. with this person, and at my wit's end. It didn't work, anyway. I ended up leaving instead! Meh--I think it was balancing out energy from a certain past life together. ...Her turn to rule the castle!
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LOL!! The powder from online is halarious!! I cant believe it didnt work? Darn it!! stupid online stuff!
I just recently decided to compare my chart with Winston Churchill, ive always been so drawn to his lil quotes and have several magnets on my frig with his quotes....i had to look him up!
I couldnt believe the simularites in our charts, so i started reading about his life, again similarities! He ran from an old life into a new a life, left everything behind and started over at the same age i did!

posted October 10, 2012 12:21 AM            

So, on a lighter note...
DNA 55555 (one's unique identity; respect for your individuality and judgment*) is quintile NEPTUNE (0d35') from natal first house.

Gabby and Jovian, we each have the asteroid for 'mental hygiene' Hygiea 10 in the 10th House of a Sense of Your Purpose in life!

BTW, Jovian!-- Happy Sun-Psyche 16 transiting on Uranus in your chart today (oops! now it's tomorrow already!!??) ....

*Credit goes to http://markandrewholmes.com/dna.html

posted October 10, 2012 02:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Jovian:
Oooh! ...And my natal Karma is tied up with Uranus as well. I bought lottery tickets tonight...and didn't even win $2. What the heck?! When is all this astro knowledge going to pay off?

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posted October 10, 2012 12:49 PM            

Wellll, you know what I'm gonna say to that: Maybe something like that happened to you in the past??

"Purpose in life is mental hygiene" ...Hmm. Doesn't sound too bad. I do feel I floss my brain often, though probably have a few irreparable cavities.

Ahh, forgive me. When Mirage is around I am like the Mad Hatter to her March Hare.

posted October 10, 2012 03:51 PM            

Right time, right place, right people?

posted October 10, 2012 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Jovian:
Oooh! ...And my natal Karma is tied up with Uranus as well. I bought lottery tickets tonight...and didn't even win $2. What the heck?! When is all this astro knowledge going to pay off?

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posted October 10, 2012 05:06 PM            

(guess I'm just a baaaahd influence on you-- )

The tragedy of life is what dies inside a man while he lives.--Albert Schweitzer

posted October 10, 2012 05:23 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Gabby, regarding your interest in movies during the period of WWII, and Jovian with your mention of the film The Sound of Music... I resonate with you. This film is the story of Maria von Trapp. When it gets to the part in the cemetery when the family's hiding place is given away, I turn it off. How terrifying...

So, on a lighter note...
DNA 55555 (one's unique identity; respect for your individuality and judgment*) is quintile NEPTUNE (0d35') from natal first house.

Gabby and Jovian, we each have the asteroid for 'mental hygiene' Hygiea 10 in the 10th House of a Sense of Your Purpose in life!

BTW, Jovian!-- Happy Sun-Psyche 16 transiting on Uranus in your chart today (oops! now it's tomorrow already!!??) ....
[will continue later - bye for now]

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I've never seen it, but i do love the movies taken from that period!
Ill have to look it up! Ive never put much value in past life regression...but if there was a way to do it, then validate the history somehow you learned through regression, that would be so interesting! I'm not even a firm believer in bringing up memories from childhood, i think if something was traumatic enough you blocked it out, then a hole was punched in your psyche and i dont want to go digging behind that wall. Its better to break the emotional connections so your not hurting from it and build new connections...
But if their was a way to validate it, id be all for it!

posted October 11, 2012 04:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I've never seen it, but i do love the movies taken from that period!
Ill have to look it up! Ive never put much value in past life regression...but if there was a way to do it, then validate the history somehow you learned through regression, that would be so interesting! I'm not even a firm believer in bringing up memories from childhood, i think if something was traumatic enough you blocked it out, then a hole was punched in your psyche and i dont want to go digging behind that wall. Its better to break the emotional connections so your not hurting from it and build new connections...
But if their was a way to validate it, id be all for it!

@Jovian, did anything special come from sun/psyche day? My progressed mars is conjuncting my psyche now!

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You may have hung a 'cloak of invisibility' over it... but it's still there.

Pluto and Neptune can help the mind compartmentalize and re-sequence your narrative and shift the facts that won't 'fit' the pretty picture under that cloak. You "think" and can convince yourself completely, what the 'truth' is... But it's not gone. The reveal day eventually comes.

posted October 11, 2012 04:20 PM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gabby:
[b] I've never seen it, but i do love the movies taken from that period!
Ill have to look it up! Ive never put much value in past life regression...but if there was a way to do it, then validate the history somehow you learned through regression, that would be so interesting! I'm not even a firm believer in bringing up memories from childhood, i think if something was traumatic enough you blocked it out, then a hole was punched in your psyche and i dont want to go digging behind that wall. Its better to break the emotional connections so your not hurting from it and build new connections...
But if their was a way to validate it, id be all for it!

@Jovian, did anything special come from sun/psyche day? My progressed mars is conjuncting my psyche now!

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You may have hung a 'cloak of invisibility' over it... but it's still there.

Pluto and Neptune can help the mind compartmentalize and re-sequence your narrative and shift the facts that won't 'fit' the pretty picture under that cloak. You "think" and can convince yourself completely, what the 'truth' is... But it's not gone. The reveal day eventually comes.

Just because we make pretty distractions to 'pretend' it's not there, it don't make the elephant behind the curtain any skinnier... nor make it smell any better! [/B][/QUOTE]

posted October 11, 2012 08:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I havent hung any cloaks of invisibility, i am consciously aware of what happened, i just dont need to dig around to get the full image blow by blow recapped in my mind, i have enough to get a grasp on the little girls energy and pain, that was me at that time, that i know how to help that little girl that was hurt in me, to heal...im all for healing the pain, not into wallowing in it!

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Wallowing??... hmmmm, interesting!

So... if that pain is still that vivid, even though you slam the lid on it and declare yourself by your Will to be the winner, then you have NOT healed. Healed would mean you could go "there" and there'd BE no "pain" to wallow in?

cruelty...

As you work on clients with that kind of "pain", and do whatever waving of the arms or magic brain treatment, and you TELL them they are to IGNORE the pain, not to give it any "attention".... you call THAT "therapy???" Ignore-it-and-it-will-go-away??

NOPE! It WILL trigger your OWN wounds, pain, whether your conscious mind decides it is or not. And this will be toxic, and perpetuates the will of Authority that wants you to "stifle" about their abuse.

"YOU" are NOT your mind; you are the totality of what has happened in this human experience. You CAN'T shut that down.

Your "MIND" thinks it's the boss?? --- Is your MIND the authoritarian and disciplinarian who decides what "The Truth" is gonna be for you? The events stand written in Heaven, Gabby.

You CANNOT rewrite the TRUTH of what happened, no matter how much brainwash you get, no matter how many DRUGS you take, how many stem cells they squirt to your brainparts, no matter how big of a lobotomy you get--- it's there, all there, in the akashic records. And they have killed "you" , the biology of you, but NOT the History of YOU.

Yes, isn't it "inconvenient" for status quo that you exist! There are stories about women who 'disturbed' the truth--- how society punished those who disagreed...

Look at the story of Francis Farmer!

In a way, your MIND decides all that for you??

That's like saying the voice of your mom is what trumps your innerchild --- who told you the abuse was NOT true. Who was right: The Authority who Decides it NEVER happened? or the Child who got squished in the middle of wanting to be good. Is the Child a Liar because Mom has the final word in the House over whether it happened or did not happen?

These are things that we as a society need to ponder.

See about Dorothea Lynde Dix!

posted October 11, 2012 10:59 PM            

Gabby, regarding the lottery, I was going with essentially my Jupiter on my DSC, exactly opposite my natal Jupiter on ASC. I think Venus was trining something as well. This was Sun-Psyche day as well. …I had bought 5 tickets, and I did notice that there was one number on each ticket. While this is worth absolutely nothing, it is unexpected to get one number (out of five) on all five tickets.. definitely against the odds. So, maybe with even better aspects, something more significant aligns. …I’ve been buying tickets regularly for our little lottery pool, anyway, since you first sent me those lucky days. …That calendar gave them far into the future, so I will keep it to reference.

posted October 11, 2012 11:01 PM            

We each have our own journey. Actually, she has shared in the past that she is committed to helping others. I recall she shared that she introduced a new form of therapy for kids with Autism at her son’s school, and they were actually receptive to her idea--that is in the above threads.

posted October 11, 2012 11:36 PM            

...Maybe Mirage and I might need to revive our old, or start anew, another thread for all things under the sun to be shared! I know she means the best. She likes to try to be open like you; and work things out in real time, as she thinks the transparency can help others.

posted October 12, 2012 12:17 AM            

…I’ve brought up Alice in Wonderland before, in our old thread of silliness (Gabby, you weren't here then!) as I really did feel like our wackiness was like the Mad Hatter’s Tea Party. …And I was just about to wish everyone a Very Merry Unbirthday here, when I read Gabby’s response and mention of the Madhatter asteroid!

6735 Madhatter
6736 Marchare
291 Alice

Wellll…

Mirage and I already know that our Mercurys are exactly opposed--mine at 27.45 Sag, hers at 27.54 Gem.

And her North Node at 26.33 Sag is conj my Mercury.

My MARCHARE is at 27.24 Sag, exactly conj my MERCURY…and exactly conj Mirage’s N Node !!!

Mirage’s MARCHARE is 28.46 Gem, exactly conj her Mercury!!!!!

That's MERCURY conj MARCHARE (<1).. for both of us...almost exactly opposed to each other's!

To boot,

My MADHATTER conj her SATURN (<3)
Her MADHATTER conj my S. Node (<4)

So, what is the therapeutic take-away here? Are we squelching each other's MADHATTER? LOLOL

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...But let's not forget about ALICE! Curioser and curioser, indeed:

Natally, my ALICE conj SATURN (<3)

Mirage's ALIC conj her SUN (<3)...
...and opposes my SUN! (<3)

UNREAL!

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Let's look at what Gabby's tea party is up to....

MADHATTER conj MARCHARE! (<3)

Gabby's SATURN conj Mirage's MADHATTER! (<1!)

..As per above, where Mirage perceived Gabby was squelching her "Mad Hatter"!!!

Gabby's MARS conj Mirage's MERCURY/SNODE/MARCHARE ! (<2)

Gabby's ALICE conj Mirage's MOON! (<3)

Gabby's MARCHARE conj my VENUS (<2)

...The synastric TEA PARTY explains it all, folks!!

Mirage--you can appreciate this, I hope?! Wow!

posted October 12, 2012 12:32 AM            

Alice in Wonderland! OMG. lol

...I am bemused and flabbergasted.

...But look--there is hope as your ALICE conjuncts her MOON! lol. That sounds absurd, but maybe worthwhile!

I really hope Mirage can also appreciate the astro learning to be had in this!

Oh Gabby-- Your VALENTINE is exactly conj your MARCHARE.

Your ALICE is exactly opposite my VALENTINE! LOL

...So funny, as before I read the later misunderstanding, I was first going to joke about you joining the tea party as Alice, since you said you were a natural blond and all!!!

6042 Cheshirecat!

Omg, I'm going to see if anything is up there...

(Do you notice how I start seeming extra ebullient and effusive in all this?! Manic even? I swear it is the Mad Hatter Tea Party energy between us!)

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Oh good grief, maybe not! ...

17518 Redqueen
17942 Whiterabbit
9387 Tweedledee
17681 Tweededum

...Maybe we should see if others come along and present themselves as one of these other characters!