posted November 02, 2012 04:27 AM              

"Cupid square Psyche DW 2 orbs"
Interesting. It keeps popping up. No I am not really convinced of the Cupid/Psyche pairing either, but it just keeps coming up, and it gets increasingly more difficult to ignore this.

"Parvati sextile Siva 1 orbs
Adonis sextile Innanen exact."
I know it is "only" sextiles, as they say, but I start thinking if sextiles are within one degree orb they might be more important than we give them credit for. maybe not as insistent as other aspects, but still there.

also, another pairing of Adonis/Inannen, and Parvati/siva I have seen in several synastries as well (more than Siva/Kaali as a matter of fact)

posted November 02, 2012 03:28 PM            

Rita - Tom

Her tara quntile his Siva exact

Bandares-Griffin
Her Siva trine his Tara 4 orbs (Too wide but present)

Bogart-Bacall
His tara conjunct her Siva 1 orb

Carter-Cash
His Siva square her Tara 1 orb
His Tara QX her Siva exact

Cayce-Cayce
His Siva opposite her Tara 1 orb

Hepburn-Spencer
Her Tara QX his Siva 1 orb

Frida- Diego
Her siva conjunct his Tara 3 orbs

Hearst-Davis
His Tara trine her Siva 3 orbs

Newman- Woodword
Her Siva trine his Tara 2 orb
His Siva conjunct her Tara 7 orbs too wide

Robert Browning-Elizabeth
Connection present but orbs too wide

Oliver-Leigh
Connection present but orbs too wide

Pierre-Marie Curie
Connection present orbs too wide

Paul-Linda McCarthy
Connection present orbs too wide

Taylor-Burton
None Siva-Parvati already present

posted November 02, 2012 05:03 PM              

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Originally posted by ail221:
I wonder why Siva and Tara aren't paired together technically; Tara is one of Parvati and Kaali's incarnations and she's listed as Shiva's consort.

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Because I hadn`t known this.

Gonna include Tara from now on.

Hmm, in my own chart TARA is on 6 Cancer EXACTLY opposite my Venus. I kinda like that. lol

posted November 03, 2012 11:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Because I hadn`t known this.

Gonna include Tara from now on.

Hmm, in my own chart TARA is on 6 Cancer EXACTLY opposite my Venus. I kinda like that. lol

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posted November 03, 2012 12:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Aeline:
Where did you get the birth data for Gladys Davis? I searched astro databank, and then in google as well, and i couldn't find.

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posted November 03, 2012 12:41 PM            

We have - all within allowed orbs - as follows:

Eros conjunct Psyche (3) and exact in Draco
Adonis conjunct Aphrodite
Ariadne conjunct Bacchus
Adonis square Innanen
Solomin trine Sheba
Yesshua sextile Mary
Jessie conjunct Maria
Mary sextile Yesshua
Osiris sextile Isis
Juno trine Jupiter/Juno square Jupiter
Briede opposite Groom

posted November 03, 2012 12:42 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
who? do you mean marion davis?

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posted November 03, 2012 01:14 PM              

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Originally posted by ail221:
who? do you mean marion davis?

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I have the book "Karmic astrology" by Ruth Aharoni, and she had her data.

Gladys Davis
January 30 1905
1:30 a.m. Central Standard Time
Centerville, Alabama

I don`t agree a 100% with Aharoni`s statements, but there is a lot thoughtworthy stuff in it.

posted November 03, 2012 01:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I have the book "Karmic astrology" by Ruth Aharoni, and she had her data.

Gladys Davis
January 30 1905
1:30 a.m. Central Standard Time
Centerville, Alabama

I don`t agree a 100% with Aharoni`s statements, but there is a lot thoughtworthy stuff in it.

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posted November 03, 2012 01:19 PM              

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Originally posted by ail221:
I agree it's becoming harder to ignore sextiles once they are under 1 degrees especially with at least one proven soulmate couple. The Dionysus and Ariadne story definitely fits there relationship both married other people, have adult children yet they found each other. I am a bit more convinced about the cupido/psyche coupling after seeing it appear in their synastry, my mother and step father and my synastry with someone.

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Yes, these tight sextiles should be accompanied by some stronger aspects, actually I think I would want to see at least one tight conjunction or opposition of the mentioned soulmate couples in synastry and/or in composite.

However, I am tentatively starting to think that even if there is a conjunction lacking, and there are only sextiles between soulmate couples (exact ones of course), it still might mean something.
For now I am forming the very tentative hypothesis, that it might represent a smooth energetic flow, but might not really pull two people together. Like they might be soulmates, but it might not be such a compulsive thing like it can be with the conjunction and opposition or even the square. It is more like a "natural given" that you never really dwell upon. It`s just there.

I think to bring such a sextile forefront it would need to be tied strongly to the angles, or a karmic object like Moon, Saturn, nodal axis, Vertex, Pluto, KARMA or even Union.
Of course if one of these is strongly aspecting VALENTINE or AMOR this might strenghten it considerably, as if there as just an isolated sextile.

posted November 03, 2012 01:22 PM              

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Originally posted by Aeline:
I wonder, if these connections could also be present in NON-romantic soulmate relationship as well?

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Probably it could.
I think the soulmate couples definitely would need to have some romantic backup by Venus, Mars, Pluto, Amor, Valentine, Juno; Eros and Lust aspects. and of course the rulers of the 5th and 8th house.

Also they probably need to be tied to the angles, coming up in cardinal houses or the 8th house, maybe also 5th house, and need to be triggered by progressions or outer planets transits to come to the foreground.

posted November 03, 2012 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Probably it could.
I think the soulmate couples definitely would need to have some romantic backup by Venus, Mars, Pluto, Amor, Valentine, Juno; Eros and Lust aspects. and of course the rulers of the 5th and 8th house.

Also they probably need to be tied to the angles, coming up in cardinal houses or the 8th house, maybe also 5th house, and need to be triggered by progressions or outer planets transits to come to the foreground.

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posted November 03, 2012 01:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Yes, these tight sextiles should be accompanied by some stronger aspects, actually I think I would want to see at least one tight conjunction or opposition of the mentioned soulmate couples in synastry and/or in composite.

However, I am tentatively starting to think that even if there is a conjunction lacking, and there are only sextiles between soulmate couples (exact ones of course), it still might mean something.
For now I am forming the very tentative hypothesis, that it might represent a smooth energetic flow, but might not really pull two people together. Like they might be soulmates, but it might not be such a compulsive thing like it can be with the conjunction and opposition or even the square. It is more like a "natural given" that you never really dwell upon. It`s just there.

I think to bring such a sextile forefront it would need to be tied strongly to the angles, or a karmic object like Moon, Saturn, nodal axis, Vertex, Pluto, KARMA or even Union.
Of course if one of these is strongly aspecting VALENTINE or AMOR this might strenghten it considerably, as if there as just an isolated sextile.

The Cupido/Psyche-link still has me dazzled. It just comes up so often.

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posted November 03, 2012 02:24 PM              

"think even if the conjunction is lacking in synastry there usually is something in Draco charts."
Yes, actually I think ther NEEDS to be something strong in the Dracos for you to be soulmates. Or phrased differently: Soulmates will have something strong in the Dracos.

I did not use the Dracos because they would have messed up the probability.
From a certain point on it might become very arbitrary finding connections.
However for individual analysis it is vital to track the pattern.

"Or the soulmate pairing could be tied together with objects of fate i.e. saturn, NN, Karma, fortuna, or destinn."
Yes. def.

" Also I am a bit apprehensive of some soulmate pairings in synastry with too many conjunctions. Just as too many conjunctions in a person's natal chart isn't a good thing :/"
Well, not a good thing, but a significant one. I like to localize the conjunctions and from there trace the aspect patterns that unfold (are there squares to the conjunction or rather trines, or is it floating around).

"1. Because some people are just born in the same area within the same time frame it takes time for those asteroids to move around. "
One thing I like about most asteroids (at least the "Amores") is that they are moving considerably quickly, at least quicker than Jupiter and the outers.

"While moon signs are the ones you stay friends with for decades."!
Yes, Moon is our emotional memory.

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I wonder if there is a pairing with Valentine the comes up the most, within these couples. Example.Valentine-Pluto, Valentine-Juno, Valentine-Union/unitas etc. Time for me to research."

Definitely a very interesting research field. I always love finding soulmate objects tied to Valentine.

Also if you trace the pattern, a story will unfold.

Just for starters - I did not delve into this synastry-

His ADONIS is opposite my KARMA exact.
My ISHTAR is trine his KARMA exact.

His ADONIS is also exactly quinkunx my Saturn and exactly square my JUNO, which conjuncts my Draco VALENTINE.

my JUNO is squaring his JUNO_PSYCHE_NESSUS-conjunction, which sits EXACTLY on my KARMA and trines my Moon exact.

Of course this is just because certain natal patterns overlay each other here.

My Juno/Draco Valentine being exactly square my natal Karma in my 7th house - so relationships that are or have been fraught with a certain tension (my 7th house Karma in Gemini wants to chat and communicate and be a bit analytical and detached, while my Juno in Pisces can`t help but merge spiritually and emotionally) are always part of my relationship Karma.
Luckily my Karma is exactly trine my Moon, which is kinda helpful. Draco Moon exactly conjunct my DESC definitely emphasizes the theme of "relationship Karma" as well.

For him ADONIS is exactly opposing Juno/Psyche/Nessus; if we take it that Adonis also has some relevance for hinting at Sumerian past lives, this is where I would start tracking. There might have been a past life marriage (his Karma is also conjunct my Draco Juno, which is being transited by Moon as we speak ). Actually his Karma/ my Draco Juno is opposite his Mars on my Venus/Isis/Osiris, squaring his Sun/Pallas on my Aura/IC, and also squaring my Pluto/Transylvania on the other side of the zodiac.

That neat little Grand Cross all happening between 6-9 degrees of cardinal signs.

Interestingly, my ISHTAR is conjunct my HORUS and ECHNATON and PHOLUS and HIS VALENTINE, sextile my ISIS/OSIRIS an squaring his OSIRIS.

There seems to be an interconnection between Sumerian and Egyptian asteroids, so I think I would start the analysis there, if I were to sink my teeth into it (and surprisingly I just scratched the absolute surface here. lol)

But for me it seems to ALWAYS come down to Babylon.

Actually his Dionysos (on my NEPHTYS lol) is conjunct my Ariadne, on my Draco Saturn and his Draco Pluto, and trine his Karma and my Pholus/Ishtar/Horus. lol

I certainly can`t separate the Egyptian from the Sumerian asteroids.

Sorry I got sidetracked I believe