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Topic: Vesta and the Expression of Your Sexuality
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venus in gemini
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posted October 24, 2010 04:44 PM
  
DD,
I really didn't pay much attention to the Quintiles before, thinking they were only a minor aspect. Until I was specifically told to notice the quintiles in our chart, because they are our gifts. Blessings from the universe. So now I always include them. Who am I to not respect a gift from the universe.  IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted November 16, 2012 07:38 PM
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sand
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posted November 16, 2012 09:38 PM
^Why how sweet of you!  IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted November 17, 2012 02:15 AM
moving to Asteroid Astrology  ------------------
"For all those who believe, expect a miracle.”
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Odette
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posted November 17, 2012 03:16 AM
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who unabashedly admits that sex is one of their devotions?
Most Aries and Scorpio people!  IP: Logged |
sand
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posted November 17, 2012 06:22 AM
Taurus #devoteeIP: Logged |
StacyLewis
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posted November 17, 2012 04:30 PM
Vesta is gross to me.It's the asteroid associated with the whole "Vestal Virgin" phenomena, aka, they basically were sl*ts who passed themselves around to a bunch of different guys, and swore they were "f*cking for God", to be totally blunt about it, and somehow believed they were still virgins in spite of that. To me the whole concept is inherently nonsensical, disgusting, and the total anthesis of what God and spirituality is supposed to be all about. Astrologically, it has nothing to do with a person's sexuality in a general, normal sense either - that would be Mars, or the eighth house, or the sign on the cusp of the eighth and subsequently, its ruler. I have Vesta over at 0 degrees Libra, where it makes almost no aspects... I don't mean this as an attack on the thread starter or any of the participants, I just really, REALLY don't like the whole Vesta backstory...then again, I have Juno in a (wide) conjunction to my moon and Virgo on the cusp of my 8th house, so maybe that has something to do with it too... IP: Logged |
Moonfish
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posted November 17, 2012 08:31 PM
I've never been intimate or had any sexual relations.
Vesta in Virgo 7H
quintile Sun/Mars/Pluto in Scorpio 8H (0-2)
conjunct Jupiter (0)
trine Uranus (1)
trine NN (1)
square Lust (1)I'm not promiscuous or "loose" either. So I don't believe Vesta is just based on sex. I think it's a devotion/focus on any area like DD mentioned. IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted November 17, 2012 09:21 PM
Me and Vesta have no astrological beef  Vesta in Taurus 12th house
Opposite Pluto (2)
sextile Chiron and Amor (2)
Square Lust (1)
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ail221
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posted November 17, 2012 10:59 PM
Vesta is a devotion asteroid as well as a Tantric asteroid referring to the inter-connection of sex and spirituality. It's not surprising that decades later the Emperor of Rome banished the existence of vestal virgins because of its Pagan roots, Sexual magic not necessarily because it was considered prostitution. Many cultures view sex as a form of magic because of it ultimate result the birth of new life i.e. pregnancy. On the oppressive side of things women were more subject to the value of their sexual purity. Even in mainstream media there is a value on virginity ex. the virgin the horror movie never dies because her "virginity" protects her from death. Also there were special privileges for women who fulfilled their term as vestal virgins, they were deemed holy, they could own property, other roman women weren't given that freedom and they held rights that even some male citizens didn't possess. Some Sacred Prostitutes were priestesses for female goddesses and well, they engaged in sexual magick. Even babylonian brides were required by law to prostitute themselves at the temple for seven days prior to marriage in order to appease the Goddess, who disapproved of monogamy. When primarily female goddesses were worshiped male worshippers of the Great Goddess of the moment would wait years, offer gifts, undergo painful or humiliating preparatory rituals, fast, and give just about anything for the opportunity to be initiated by a Sacred Prostitute. By being "blessed" by one meant they attained the power of the Great Goddess. The whole concept is rather fascinating and explains why Prostitution is one of the oldest careers. IP: Logged |
fireopal09
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posted November 19, 2012 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by DD:
Probably having "Vesta-sex" means that you are very much into the moment and you probably won`t be thinking about making your shoppinglist or the next day`s work during.
That is EXACTLY it, DD. I have Vesta conjunct my Virgo ASC. I am not unfamiliar with this at all. IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth
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posted November 19, 2012 04:16 PM
all very interesting~~~~~~I have no beef with Vesta either~ but, my Venus doesn't seem to like her much.... Venus SAG (SN) opp Vesta GEM (NN) (1°) ---- maybe 'cause she's tryin' to steal her mojo????
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ail221
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posted November 19, 2012 07:00 PM
It's interesting vesta is literally the opposite of venus, one engaging in tantric sex or sexual magick for enlightenment or revelation and venus for pure pleasure, IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth
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posted November 19, 2012 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by ail221:
It's interesting vesta is literally the opposite of venus, one engaging in tantric sex or sexual magick for enlightenment or revelation and venus for pure pleasure,
I've read the opposition described as being torn between the two extremes~~ with them falling onto the nodes I tend to agree with your statement in particular. I had a period when I had Venus-Sagittarius "love" ideals ~ viewing the intimacy always from the Sagittarian philosophical standpoint (but being trapped in the mind/thought process isn't really pleasurable) ~~~ so working out of that over-packed 4th house and embracing a more esoteric "Vestal" Geminine ideal is where (hopefully) I'm headed. Either that -or- I need to associate more "freely" with spiritual Geminis... ~~~~~~~
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(umm... just gonna leave out that whole prostitution part though~ yeah/no, buddy.... never been that desperate for cash. lol)
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KarkaQueen
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posted November 24, 2012 01:27 AM
Vesta in Cancer is devoted to serving others. They are a natural care giver and just want to be needed. When they don't feel appreciated they may withdraw. They have a strong feeling of responsibility to family and home. This may overpower any personal desires. They are willing to make this sacrifice, which may make them appear rather cold. They are intuitive. They are healers full of compassion. They may take the pain of others into themselves in an attempt to heal them. They need to learn to heal themselves.I have Vesta conjunct Mars xxx IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen
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posted November 24, 2012 01:32 AM
My boyfriend has Vesta in Scorpio, I always felt that he had Venus in Scorpio in the past life, turns out he has Venus in 29 degrees Scorpio Draconic. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted November 24, 2012 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by ail221:
It's interesting vesta is literally the opposite of venus, one engaging in tantric sex or sexual magick for enlightenment or revelation and venus for pure pleasure,
I've been interested in "Sacred Prostitution" as well, but I doubt we have anyone participating in that anymore. So, unfortunately, we don't have any modern, first-hand accounts of how therapeutic it actually is...none that I know of, anyway.
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ail221
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posted November 24, 2012 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
I've been interested in "Sacred Prostitution" as well, but I doubt we have anyone participating in that anymore. So, unfortunately, we don't have any modern, first-hand accounts of how therapeutic it actually is...none that I know of, anyway.
I agree, I think the "Sacred Prostitute" concept does still exist it just goes along with the "idealized" version of a woman a man may have. The virginal youthful woman is the sacred prostitute for the man that she ultimately marries she's a balance between this hypersexual woman that he "corrupted" or "unleashed her sexuality" and the respected successful etc woman to the outside world. Sort of like the madonna-***** complex is a more of a dysfunctional male issue were they view of women as either Madonnas or ****** which ultimately limits women's sexual expression for some reason they can't conceive the idea that a woman can be both but the "Sacred Prostitute" is pretty much the coexisting personas. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted November 24, 2012 07:45 PM
wow this is really interesting! How would a Vesta/Pluto conjunction play out in synastry - considering the sexual connotations to Vesta?IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted November 24, 2012 09:28 PM
Vesta aspecting BML is the most common theme within the context of "soul mate couples" with Vesta- Pluto, Mars, Eros or Sappho being the second most prevalent aspect. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted November 25, 2012 05:51 AM
thought this was an interesting article http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/05/12/driven-towards-the-sacred-vesta-part-one/
http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/05/20/driven-towards-the-sacred-vesta-part-two/
and of course this one
http://astrologeometry.wordpress.com/category/synastry/
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Ceridwen
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posted November 25, 2012 05:52 AM
Ail,which BML did you check? IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted November 25, 2012 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Ail,which BML did you check?
All of them Mean lilith appears the most more than 65 percent of the time. True lilith and Waldermath Dark Moon only 37.5 percent of the time Natural Apogee lilith 50 percent of the time Asteroid lilith over 56 percent of the time IP: Logged |
mir
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posted November 27, 2012 12:05 PM
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..............with Vesta- Pluto, Mars, Eros or Sappho being the second most prevalent aspect.
Could it be that there's some form of sexual 'sacrifice' present if there's one of the above inter-aspects in synastry? With mainly Vesta being the 'sacrificer'. I dunno if 'sacrifice' is the right word here but I do get some vibes of it.. With my current friend I notice I'm really more willing and focused to give *him* pleasure than I ever was with another guy.
It strikes me as I've always been sort of afraid that *I* wouldn't get enough .. as if there's less competition between the sheets or something... and with that it also feels simply more 'natural' than it ever did. I have an exact Vesta trine Pluto (intense devotion if encouraged) in my chart which exactly trine his Mars (a grand trine in EARTH) .. also my Venus is closely involved here as I have a natal Venus/Vesta opposition which would even make the geometry a KITE. + his NN/SN closely on my Vesta/Venus opposition. IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted November 27, 2012 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by mir:
Could it be that there's some form of sexual 'sacrifice' present if there's one of the above inter-aspects in synastry? With mainly Vesta being the 'sacrificer'. I dunno if 'sacrifice' is the right word here but I do get some vibes of it.. With my current friend I notice I'm really more willing and focused to give *him* pleasure than I ever was with another guy.
It strikes me as I've always been sort of afraid that *I* wouldn't get enough .. as if there's less competition between the sheets or something... and with that it also feels simply more 'natural' than it ever did. I have an exact Vesta trine Pluto (intense devotion if encouraged) in my chart which exactly trine his Mars (a grand trine in EARTH) .. also my Venus is closely involved here as I have a natal Venus/Vesta opposition which would even make the geometry a KITE. + his NN/SN closely on my Vesta/Venus opposition.
I wouldn't use sacrifice rather devotion, perhaps with the effect of Pluto their seems to be more of a transformation sacrificial aspect.
Vesta is identified with tantra and tantric rituals basically worship services taken in the form of a spiritual-sexual rituals. So IP: Logged |
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