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Topic: Lucifer opposite Sun?
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hypatia238
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posted April 19, 2018 02:22 PM
  
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Originally posted by arcturus90:
I didn't know that Nessus energy wants to be free.
Its a very primal energy, primal is wild and does not want to be tamed or restricted, it wants to surrender to the passion. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted April 19, 2018 02:29 PM
Its complicated though bc at heart both lucifer and nessus are romantics. Lucifer has Sun conjunct eros and spirit, nessus has sun square eros. But nessus in aspect to dejanira is a marker of abuse (primal energy meets the asteroid of victimhood), or dejanira aspecting things in your chart can indicate a theme of been abused or been targeted unjustly, bullied ect. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted April 19, 2018 02:32 PM
One more thing his Lucifer conjunct by 5 degrees your sun is weak, that is not a strong aspect. Unless your sun parallels his lucifer exact.In what degree is your mars in capricorn and Saturn in capricorn? IP: Logged |
arcturus90
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posted April 19, 2018 04:56 PM
So only one aspect could describe the interaction I had with him ?
I know that lucifer means also "light", or other things you wrote.. It fits well with what I've seen on charts, for example someone well-known who had his lucifer on my Mercury, his "lucifer" side fits well with my ideas (not satanic side, he had good thoughts).. But lucifer is not perfect. My Mars is at 23° Capricorn and Saturn 22°. His Nessus is in exact conjunction with my Mars.. As I wrote it, his lucifer is in exact conjunction to my Sun in his prenatal new moon chart..
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arcturus90
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posted April 19, 2018 05:01 PM
And I just remembered that my Moon is aspecting my Mars and Saturn to his Nessus (1°orb from his Nessus, trine)Sorry I wrote "so" instead of "to" and "in" instead of "is" IP: Logged |
Mkya00
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posted April 19, 2018 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
So every difficult child who ignores an adult must have Lucifer prominent in their chart? He doesn't have to like you. My partner has it exact on the IC and his mom says he was a great kid, well behaved, polite. He still is. He has never ignored me once in the 11 years I have been with him. When I have tried to leave him in the past, he fights for me like crazy, pride has never been an issue with him or us. He never does that shutting down thing were he doesn't talk to me, ever, he has never ignored me.
I'm so glad you have so much personal experience with Lucifer being a good asteroid. Because it really is. I bet I could find millions of Freemasons who would agree.  IP: Logged |
arcturus90
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posted April 19, 2018 05:46 PM
freemasons 
I bet you don't believe in God or don't have faith with him ? Do you like Illuminati ? IP: Logged |
Mkya00
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posted April 19, 2018 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Lucifer is mentioned only in the Old Testament, and Satan doesn’t come into the picture until the New Testament. Jesus is also known as the “Morning Star” in the New Testament, which confuses the issue even more.
But before either the Old or New Testament, Venus was known as the “Morning Star.”That been said I see Lucifer in a more positive light bc the discovery chart has a theme of justice and bringing the truth to light around issues were abuse of power in some shape or form took place bc I am personally not religious.
Kudos, great post! I didn't want to quote all of it. I am personally spiritual, not religious. I think all religions have great teachings but I do not adhere to one. I wish we could take all the positive messages from all and pull it together into one "teaching" (we don't need another religion). IP: Logged |
Mkya00
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posted April 19, 2018 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by arcturus90:
freemasons
I bet you don't believe in God or don't have faith with him ? Do you like Illuminati ?
Ahh, more taunting. It seems to be a regular thing with me lately. Freemasons believe in God. It's why their main symbol is a Compass and Square with a big G in the middle of it. Personally, I believe in a Creator - use whatever name you want, when I pray I use multiple names during prayer (Yahweh, Buddha, Brahma, Odin, Zeus, Quetzalcoatl...) I've been religious, atheist, and now spiritual with a firm understanding that there is a Creator and more importantly many people have the divine in them. After all, we were created in the Creator's image. SecretGreek echoed this when he pointed out that God and angels are genderless. This is something he and I definitely agree on. But to bring this back to Lucifer. Lucifer is NOT Satan - it is Light-bringer, morning star, Venus. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted April 19, 2018 08:47 PM
Just don't turn your back on the little boy.IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted April 19, 2018 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by Mkya00:
Ahh, more taunting. It seems to be a regular thing with me lately.Freemasons believe in God. It's why their main symbol is a Compass and Square with a big G in the middle of it. Personally, I believe in a Creator - use whatever name you want, when I pray I use multiple names during prayer (Yahweh, Buddha, Brahma, Odin, Zeus, Quetzalcoatl...) I've been religious, atheist, and now spiritual with a firm understanding that there is a Creator and more importantly many people have the divine in them. After all, we were created in the Creator's image. SecretGreek echoed this when he pointed out that God and angels are genderless. This is something he and I definitely agree on. But to bring this back to Lucifer. Lucifer is NOT Satan - it is Light-bringer, morning star, Venus.
I like your spiritual nature, it aligns with mine.
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SecretGeek
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posted April 20, 2018 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by arcturus90:
freemasons
I bet you don't believe in God or don't have faith with him ? Do you like Illuminati ?
There are many flavors of Luciferianism. The common denominator is most, if not all, are anti-Christ. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism IP: Logged |
Mkya00
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posted April 20, 2018 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
There are many flavors of Luciferianism. The common denominator is most, if not all, are anti-Christ. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism
There are many flavors of Christianity, Islam, etc. Secret, I love you... stop twisting Lucifer to what you want it to be. Hypatia already pointed out that your Lucifer is afflicted by Lie. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted April 20, 2018 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by Mkya00:
There are many flavors of Christianity, Islam, etc.Secret, I love you... stop twisting Lucifer to what you want it to be. Hypatia already pointed out that your Lucifer is afflicted by Lie.
That is one reason how I can see anti-Christ deception. Glad I have Lucifer conjunct Lie to help show me.
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hypatia238
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posted April 20, 2018 04:56 PM
It would be that if you had Lucifer conjunct Truth but you have it conjunct Lie so it makes it hard for you to understand lucifer bc they are merged together, you see Lie not lucifer. If anything Lucifer is helping you with that affliction of lie on your sun, lucifer is what lights UP the darkness in you represented by Lie, he is venus morning star. You are lucky that lucifer is on your lie actually, its helping with that affliction, its why you had that turning point at age 27, Lucifer helped with that turning point, it lighted up your darker nature/ways (lie). A transit must have activated your lucifer. The Year you were 27 transit Pluto was squaring exact your Lucifer conjunct Lie. It transformed your lying ways and brought to light your lying ways so you would be forced to confront that side of you and let it go, it forced that part of you to pass away so only Lucifer is left, the light bringer. Interesting Nessus was conjunct your Pluto that year too, something big must have pushed for that turning point. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted April 20, 2018 05:12 PM
I have an ability to see anti-Christ deception. I can show you if you wish.IP: Logged |
arcturus90
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posted April 20, 2018 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
That is one reason how I can see anti-Christ deception. Glad I have Lucifer conjunct Lie to help show me.
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hypatia238
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posted April 20, 2018 11:03 PM
Ha I found someone in my data who has SUN conjunct LUCIFER exact. My best friend has:Sun in Cancer at 7d59
Lucifer in Cancer at 7d54 She is a therapist pursuing her Phd. She is amazing, I have nothing bad at all to say about her. Humble, understanding, super compassionate, accepts you the way you are, non-judgmental, kind. She is the first female friend I have had that actually understands what friendship is, that I actually felt I had a truly healthy friendship with. I have sun in virgo, it is amazing I don't have anything bad to say about her. We got hired together at a community mental health center, we started working the same day, we both happen to be Dominican, quite a coincidence. It felt fated. IP: Logged |
Mkya00
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posted April 22, 2018 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by inaworldofsong:
I find Lucifer to be a bit of a confusing asteroid. I would think it would be related to, you know, the devil, but a lot of my research into it leads me to a lot of confusing arguments about it.I have Lucifer rx at 6* Gemini opposite my Sun at 6* Sagittarius. Can anyone explain what Lucifer is and the effect of this opposition?
Check out Hypatia's Kaali thread.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/004688.html You will find that Kaali's discovery chart has Sun opposition Lucifer(ret) exact by 3 minutes. If we throw away the fake news about Lucifer and understand Lucifer = light-bringer, morning star, Venus, divine feminine AND...
"Kaali is the Dark Side Energy of the Divine Feminine Consciousness. Transcending the Dark Side helps an individual access the True Compassionate Divine "Mother" Aspect of God." I'd wager to say that your Sun/Lucifer opposition isn't necessarily a bad thing as long as you learn to "transcend the dark side" of the Divine Feminine Consciousness (Lucifer). Basically, your shining light (Sun) is opposing Lucifer and placing her in the dark (Mother Earth is casting it's shadow on Lucifer). IP: Logged |
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