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DialecticLady
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posted September 23, 2013 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DialecticLady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How close is Moon to Kaali? The same house would not do it.


I agree with you, cause it's a wide orb: 9 degree , but mystic/sensitive people warned me about it (be a sponge) and I feel like this too, I needed to learn how to clean my self a time ago (herbal bath, sea bath,walking barefoot in the grass and so on).

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posted September 23, 2013 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DialecticLady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How close is Moon to Kaali? The same house would not do it.


I realized something else now: My Kaali is 17 degree aqua and it's opposite exact my vesta (17 degree Leo) which is conjunct my sun (18 degree Leo). I don't know, could be this perhaps since I have 7th house sun (others house?)

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posted September 27, 2013 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for this topic


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posted September 28, 2013 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Kaali conjuncts my Venus 1°

Does this mean I have the ability to cultivate my kundalini energy through Venusian matters (love)? Lol

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posted September 28, 2013 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
My Kaali conjuncts my Venus 1°

Does this mean I have the ability to cultivate my kundalini energy through Venusian matters (love)? Lol


Welcome Friend

Let me ask you some questions. Do you feel that when you fall in love, all your vital energy leaves you and goes into that person?

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posted September 28, 2013 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Kaali is retrogade in Pisces 10º30'... I read that only conjuncts to asteroids were really influential in a person's life... I'm a bit confused now. Anyways:

It conjuncts my NN by 3º30'
sesquiquadrate my Mercury by 1º
squares my Jupiter by 4º
quintiles my Uranus by 1º
sextiles my Neptune by 3º
trines my Pluto by 0º
trines my Chiron by 3º

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posted September 28, 2013 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You would feel it with your Sun, but it would be much more ambient. I bet you feel like you lose energy when you are out with others etc, that your energy seems to flow out and you can't seem to stop it. Is that true?




I have kaali conjunct my natal sun exact! I constantly feel drained after I've been out with others. I can read people's vibes very well. I need time alone frequently to replenish my energy levels. I am very sensitive to the vibes people give off!

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posted September 28, 2013 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Tgem!

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posted September 28, 2013 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
My Kaali is retrogade in Pisces 10º30'... I read that only conjuncts to asteroids were really influential in a person's life... I'm a bit confused now. Anyways:

It conjuncts my NN by 3º30'
sesquiquadrate my Mercury by 1º
squares my Jupiter by 4º
quintiles my Uranus by 1º
sextiles my Neptune by 3º
trines my Pluto by 0º
trines my Chiron by 3º


Asteroids conjunct personal points and planets in your chart are the most important. This would be your ASC, DSC etc and all your personal planets like Sun, Moon, Mars etc.

The NN is super important, too

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posted September 28, 2013 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yay, I'm starting to understand asteroid astrology a bit better!

Ami, what would Kaali conjunct my NN do? Make me fret about my future and purpose in life?

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posted September 28, 2013 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kaali in my chart is conjunct venus/mercury and opposite moon.

I experience intensity in my expression of all three of these planets. E.g. Kaali conjunct Venus.. Intense pleasure and pain being inseparable from experience of love; devastation of self or other in love, leading to complete deconstruction of understanding the concept of love and what it means; transcendance of illusions about love; gnosis of taboos in love etc.

And yes.... The potential for tantric sex (kundalini awakening through the act of love) is there when kaali touches venus. But as you can see from the above it is not all fun and games.


From http://www.orderwhitemoon.org/goddess/kali/Kali.html
"Kali's blackness symbolizes Her comprehensive nature, as in black all colors merge. Just as all colors disappear lin black, so all names and forms disappear in Her (Mahanirvana Tantra). Black can also represent the absence of color, signifying the nature of Kali as ultimate reality. Either way, Kali's color symbolizes Her transcendence of all form.Kali's nudity has similar meaning. She is described as garbed in space or sky clad. In Her primordial nakedness, She is free from all covering of illusion. Her nudity th o totally illumined consciousness. Kali is the bright fire of truth, not hidden by the trappings of ignorance.Kali is full-breasted. As our Mother, She creates endlessly. Her garland of fifty human heads, each representing one of the fifty letters of the Sanskrit alphabet, symbolizes knowledge and wisdom. Her girdle of severed human hands are the principal instruments of work and signify the action of karma. The binding effects of karma are overcome by devotion to Kali. She blesses devotees by cutting us free from the cycle of karma. Her white teeth are symbolic of purity and Her red tongue shows that She consumes all things and enjoys tasting what society regards as forbidden, Her indiscriminate enjoyment of all the world's flavors.Kali's four arms represent the complete circle of creation and destruction. Her right hands, making the sign of fear not and conferring boons, represent Her creative aspect. Her left hands, holding a bloodied sword and a severed demon head, represent her destructive aspect. The bloodied sword and severed head symbolize the destruction of ignorance and the dawn of knowledge. The sword is the sword of knowledge, that cuts through ignorance and destroys false consciousness (the severed head). Her three eyes represent the sun, moon and fire, with which She observes the past, present and future. This is the origin of the name Kali, the feminine form of Kala, the Sanskrit word for Time.The cremation ground, Kali's dwelling place, is where the five elements
are dissolved. This symbolizes the dissolving of attachments, anger, lust and other emotions, feelings and ideas. The heart of the devotee is where this burning takes place and it is in her heart that Kali dwells. The devotee, under Kali's influence, burns away all limitations and ignorance. This inner cremation fire in the heart is the fire of knowledge, which Kali bestows.The image of Shiva lying under the feet of Kali shows Shiva as the passive potential of creation. Kali is Shakti, the universal feminine creative principle and energizing force. Kali empowers Shiva. Shakti is expressed as the i in Shiva's name. Without the i, Shiva becomes Shva, which in Sanskrit means a corpse. So, without Shakti, Shiva is powerless or inert. This is the origin of the saying Shiva without Shakti is Shava.

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posted September 28, 2013 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Welcome Friend

Let me ask you some questions. Do you feel that when you fall in love, all your vital energy leaves you and goes into that person?


Thank you!

Hmm well I wouldn't say I feel my energy leave and go into the other's body, rather I feel very energized in their presence.
It also depends on the type of connection though

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posted September 28, 2013 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Kaali in my chart is conjunct venus/mercury and opposite moon.

I experience intensity in my expression of all three of these planets. E.g. Kaali conjunct Venus.. Intense pleasure and pain being inseparable from experience of love; devastation of self or other in love, leading to complete deconstruction of understanding the concept of love and what it means; transcendance of illusions about love; gnosis of taboos in love etc.

And yes.... The potential for tantric sex (kundalini awakening through the act of love) is there when kaali touches venus. But as you can see from the above it is not all fun and games.


From http://www.orderwhitemoon.org/goddess/kali/Kali.html
"Kali's blackness symbolizes Her comprehensive nature, as in black all colors merge. Just as all colors disappear lin black, so all names and forms disappear in Her (Mahanirvana Tantra). Black can also represent the absence of color, signifying the nature of Kali as ultimate reality. Either way, Kali's color symbolizes Her transcendence of all form.Kali's nudity has similar meaning. She is described as garbed in space or sky clad. In Her primordial nakedness, She is free from all covering of illusion. Her nudity th o totally illumined consciousness. Kali is the bright fire of truth, not hidden by the trappings of ignorance.Kali is full-breasted. As our Mother, She creates endlessly. Her garland of fifty human heads, each representing one of the fifty letters of the Sanskrit alphabet, symbolizes knowledge and wisdom. Her girdle of severed human hands are the principal instruments of work and signify the action of karma. The binding effects of karma are overcome by devotion to Kali. She blesses devotees by cutting us free from the cycle of karma. Her white teeth are symbolic of purity and Her red tongue shows that She consumes all things and enjoys tasting what society regards as forbidden, Her indiscriminate enjoyment of all the world's flavors.Kali's four arms represent the complete circle of creation and destruction. Her right hands, making the sign of fear not and conferring boons, represent Her creative aspect. Her left hands, holding a bloodied sword and a severed demon head, represent her destructive aspect. The bloodied sword and severed head symbolize the destruction of ignorance and the dawn of knowledge. The sword is the sword of knowledge, that cuts through ignorance and destroys false consciousness (the severed head). Her three eyes represent the sun, moon and fire, with which She observes the past, present and future. This is the origin of the name Kali, the feminine form of Kala, the Sanskrit word for Time.The cremation ground, Kali's dwelling place, is where the five elements
are dissolved. This symbolizes the dissolving of attachments, anger, lust and other emotions, feelings and ideas. The heart of the devotee is where this burning takes place and it is in her heart that Kali dwells. The devotee, under Kali's influence, burns away all limitations and ignorance. This inner cremation fire in the heart is the fire of knowledge, which Kali bestows.The image of Shiva lying under the feet of Kali shows Shiva as the passive potential of creation. Kali is Shakti, the universal feminine creative principle and energizing force. Kali empowers Shiva. Shakti is expressed as the i in Shiva's name. Without the i, Shiva becomes Shva, which in Sanskrit means a corpse. So, without Shakti, Shiva is powerless or inert. This is the origin of the saying Shiva without Shakti is Shava.


I resonate with the description you gave of Venus/Kaali very much.
My love's BML falls on my Venus/Kaali conjunction as well and it drives me even more crazy.lol

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posted September 28, 2013 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Yay, I'm starting to understand asteroid astrology a bit better!

Ami, what would Kaali conjunct my NN do? Make me fret about my future and purpose in life?


Actually, I think this is a sign of the House of Windsor. IQ would know about it, as he was talking about it on another thread, I think.

To me, I would think that the struggle to connect with and deal with your vital energy body will be one of your life themes.

Look up acupuncture to see what I mean. It is the energy body on which this works

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posted September 29, 2013 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
I resonate with the description you gave of Venus/Kaali very much.
My love's BML falls on my Venus/Kaali conjunction as well and it drives me even more crazy.lol

Thanks Lavender .... It is not an easy combo. If you have already or will ever have to experience the "cremation fire", you will understand exactly what I mean. Hugs and love to you.....you are not alone, and will learn much through it (from the ashes - the phoenix arises ...... Remember that so dont fight the fire and let it burn you to ashes when it has to)

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I think I asked this before but I forget if the answer was clarified or not (I'm too lazy to look for my last post).

With Kaali (and other asteroids), what is the max orb? I have kaali 3 degrees conjunct with my sun and I was wondering how this worked. I was thinking it was too wide but I got scared when I first saw it haha.

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posted September 29, 2013 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks Lavender .... It is not an easy combo. If you have already or will ever have to experience the "cremation fire", you will understand exactly what I mean. Hugs and love to you.....you are not alone, and will learn much through it (from the ashes - the phoenix arises ...... Remember that so dont fight the fire and let it burn you to ashes when it has to)

Yes, I understand exactly what you mean... I have been through it and its still continuing to dissolve all that which I thought wasn't possible till this day.
Actually this awakening happened within me since I came across him.
Becoming aware of our connection and what we shared transformed my life around and my views on love, life, and spirituality.
I went through a sort of cleansing so to speak, and till this day I am continuing to transform the more I learn, grow and awaken.

Thank you for your supportive words
Its been journey but well worth it.

~ Lavender

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posted September 29, 2013 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by themischievousone:
I think I asked this before but I forget if the answer was clarified or not (I'm too lazy to look for my last post).

With Kaali (and other asteroids), what is the max orb? I have kaali 3 degrees conjunct with my sun and I was wondering how this worked. I was thinking it was too wide but I got scared when I first saw it haha.


I don't go beyond 4° for conjunctions and oppositions with asteroids, but only if the aspect is to the personal planets/angles.
In your case I'd count it, but it really depends on you, how strong you feel the energies.

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posted September 30, 2013 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Actually, I think this is a sign of the House of Windsor. IQ would know about it, as he was talking about it on another thread, I think.

To me, I would think that the struggle to connect with and deal with your vital energy body will be one of your life themes.

Look up acupuncture to see what I mean. It is the energy body on which this works


Thank you, Ami! I will look into this.

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posted September 30, 2013 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by themischievousone:
I think I asked this before but I forget if the answer was clarified or not (I'm too lazy to look for my last post).

With Kaali (and other asteroids), what is the max orb? I have kaali 3 degrees conjunct with my sun and I was wondering how this worked. I was thinking it was too wide but I got scared when I first saw it haha.


3 is the outer orb I use for a conjunction only.
Do YOU feel Kaali conjunct your Sun? Do you feel like it is hard for you to hold onto your energy?

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posted September 30, 2013 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
3 is the outer orb I use for a conjunction only.
Do YOU feel Kaali conjunct your Sun? Do you feel like it is hard for you to hold onto your energy?


What things can someone do with Kaali conjunct sun to replenish their energy? People wonder why I get so drained easily...

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posted September 30, 2013 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tgem

I am not gonna give politically correct answers.All I can say is God, as He can overcome the charts and that is it, Friend imo

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posted October 01, 2013 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
3 is the outer orb I use for a conjunction only.
Do YOU feel Kaali conjunct your Sun? Do you feel like it is hard for you to hold onto your energy?


I'm not sure what it is supposed to feel like. Asteroids are foreign to me at the moment. It is very difficult for me to hold on to my energy. Either that or out of nowhere I will have an energy 'spike'. This is one thing I cannot control.

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Tgem

I am not gonna give politically correct answers.All I can say is God, as He can overcome the charts and that is it, Friend imo


This response made me curious and slightly frightened me. What would be the not politically correct answer? I want the good, bad and ugly lol.

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posted October 04, 2013 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Tgem

I am not gonna give politically correct answers.All I can say is God, as He can overcome the charts and that is it, Friend imo


Good answer...I'll remember that.

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