posted November 09, 2013 01:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Sailor Gemini:
Um... sorry to rain down on your parade here, but I love the story of Odysseus and Penelope, especially their happy ending, but I remember reading somewhere that in one version, Penelope's been anything but faithful.
Anyways, I think Circe is the enchantress with
a mirror (turning the men to pigs, showing them their real forms).
I got her in Libra conjunct Pallas and trine
Apollonas.
Then I got Odysseus opposite Penelope (Pisces-Virgo)

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Interesting about Penelope.. I'm going to hunt for that version.
Btw, I like your mirror analogy for Circe... I think that is an important point for her interpretation .... The ability to show people their true natures, in addition to bewitching etc.

posted November 09, 2013 04:31 AM              

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Originally posted by Sailor Gemini:
Um... sorry to rain down on your parade here, but I love the story of Odysseus and Penelope, especially their happy ending,

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posted November 09, 2013 07:28 AM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
Lol well I guess it holds true. I'd say look at the placements of Ulysses/Odysseus and Penelope as well. You could even up seeing some interesting patterns.

Personally saw I have some interesting patterns with this guy:
My Circe/Venus conjunct his lust/Jupiter oppose his lilith (asteroid)
Square his Odysseus/Ulysses

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posted November 09, 2013 07:39 AM            

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Originally posted by olgatheo:
Just noticed my Odysseus is at 29 Leo and his Circe is 28 Virgo!

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posted November 09, 2013 08:25 AM              

Yes, he most certainly set me on a path/ journey, and it had a lot to do with my feelings of loveability or what I really NEED to feel appreciated (11th house), at the same time it of course brought up a lot of deep subconscious material naturaly.

Hmm another one`s Odysseus is in my 3rd house widely conjunct ASC-ruler Jupiter. He certainly made me talk a lot. lol (not necessarily to him, but just triggered my mental occupation)

posted November 09, 2013 08:27 AM              

Interestingly my Dad`s Odysseus is in my 4th house, and my Mum`s Odysseus in my 7th house.

Makes sense for family relations I suppose.

posted November 09, 2013 09:06 AM              

Hmm guess my lesson in this lifetime has to do with bewitching lol

Synistrically:

My Circe square his Moon 2°
My Circe square his Mars (8th H ruler) 1°
My Circe trine his Venus 0°

His Circe opposite my Venus 0°
His Circe square my Mercury 0°
His Circe square my Uranus (Desc-ruler) 2°
His Circe parallel my Sun (chart-ruler)

posted November 09, 2013 09:14 AM              

We have:
My Odysseus trine his Penelope 1°
His Odysseus sextile my Penelope 1°
His Ulysses sextile my Penelope 1°

Composite Odysseus quincunx Penelope 0°01
Davison Odysseus parallel Circe

posted November 09, 2013 09:35 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I the DW of Circe-Venus. Enchanting, literally.
Both are so seductive.

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posted November 09, 2013 09:38 AM            

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Originally posted by olgatheo:

Funny enough you were right My Circe is sq. to his Jupiter ( 2 degrees) , But my Odysseus is conj. his Penelope( 2 degrees) , and My progressed Circe is sex. to his Odysseus.....we had an issue last year with an ex!!!!

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posted November 09, 2013 12:52 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
That Odysseus conjunct to his Penelope looks promising.

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Yeah it seems that we have been through hell, and it's only been 15 months....hope don't have to wait 15 years like Penelope for Odysseus

My Odysseus is Opp. his Lust by 1 deg.
Don't know how this manifest's but I do love to travel with him, even short trips to other cities.

posted November 09, 2013 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Queen Salome:
Circe exact conjunct Sun!

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I think I have this, too. How do you feel it?

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posted November 09, 2013 03:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think I have this, too. How do you feel it?

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I don't know

posted November 09, 2013 11:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
Do you "see" the inner core of people easily?

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I can see their true 'forms' easily.

posted November 10, 2013 12:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Sailor Gemini:
I can see their true 'forms' easily.

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Brilliant! I can read people too, but then I worry sometimes if it is too harsh and give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I am right on the first read but I fail to trust myself, then kick myself later.

posted November 10, 2013 07:05 PM            

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Originally posted by LuckyStar:
Brilliant! I can read people too, but then I worry sometimes if it is too harsh and give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I am right on the first read but I fail to trust myself, then kick myself later.

Tell me more... I'm thinking I should just follow my gut.

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Well you should never ignore your gut feeling, but just be careful if you don't have a good feeling about them.
and Taineberry, could the interpretation hold some truth for any aspects with Apollonas-Circe, or just the conjunction?

posted November 11, 2013 01:37 AM              

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Originally posted by Taineberry:
Sun conjunct circe = an individual who who is gifted at sensing the core motives of others and is able to get them to reveal their authentic selves. It is not easy for others to "fake it" around the circe/sun person or to hide any base motives. The circe/sun person "bewitches" them into revealing themselves, often in a way which they would prefer not to be seen.....and they know circe/sun is highly conscious of the effect s/he is having on them. However, if the person is true of heart, there is nothing that the circe/sun person won't do for them and they will win a powerful, insightful, generous and intelligent ally.

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That`s a great and fitting interpretation. (fitting to the Circe symbolism I mean).

I have Sun and Mercury conjunct Circe, (and Jung, Tesla, Reiki, Robinhood, Caesar, Kleopatra, merlin, Sekhmet )

Often people tend to reveal more about themselves to me than they usually intend to. Not just in the sense that they are talking directly to me, but I find the way people speak (to others or about themselves) very enlightening. If you really listen to someone, REALLY listen, you usually get a lot of insight.

posted March 15, 2022 10:18 PM            

I have a love triangle situation. I noticed this guy's girlfriend and I have most personal planets (sun through Mars) through the same three signs, all opposite his. (So that mirror analogy makes sense!) However, what struck me in particular is that her moon and mine must be almost if not exactly the same degree, right on the Aries/Taurus cusp. But the dude has NOTHING there. I mean NOTHING. I checked all the love/sex asteroids. He has a Venus/Lilith conjunction opposite, but at 23 degrees, too far for our 28 degree Aries moons.

But then I found her: Circe. It's still wide - his Circe is at 24 Aries (in his 5th house) and more tightly opposite his Venus/Lilith. But it's the only explanation for his being "bewitched" by both of us. (Well, ok, there is the rest of the synastry and composites etc., but you have to admit it's compelling!)

So after finding this thread, I looked up all our name asteroids and Odysseus, Penelope, and Ulysses too...

In his chart:
His name asteroid is the apex of a T-square with the opposition between his Venus/Lilith and Circe.
His Circe 5 degrees from her moon and my moon/Venus conjunction (plus some of my love asteroids).
Her name asteroid is 5 degrees away from his Venus/Lilith.
His Penelope conjunct my Sun exactly.

In his/her synastry:
My name asteroid (in her chart) exactly conjunct his Circe.
Her Penelope/Nessus conjunct his Odysseus/Ulysses conjunction (3 degrees).
Her Mars/Odysseus squares his nodal axis. (tumultuous on/off relationship)
Her Circe conjunct his Juno.
His Penelope conjunct her Vesta/Pholus.

Hm, maybe she is the Penelope of the situation and I am the Circe... I suppose he was "hers" first. (I think she actually cheated on her longtime ex with this guy and left the first guy for him.)

In his/my synastry:
My Circe widely conjunct his Ascendant (4 degrees).
My Ulysses/Odysseus/Pluto/Vertex MESS conjunct his moon/my name asteroid (in his chart) (altogether within a 7-degree range).
My Odysseus/Vertex most tightly squares his nodal axis.
My Penelope/Nessus on his Venus/Lilith.
My Jupiter on his Ulysses/Odysseus.

Weird that his Penelope is on my sun and his Circe is on my moon/Venus opposite his Venus/Lilith.

In her/my synastry:
Exact opposition between my Odysseus(/Vertex) and her Odysseus(/Mars). !!! "who will win" lol
Her Penelope/Nessus on my Jupiter.
Her Circe sextile my Chiron.
Her Saturn on my Circe, sextile my Penelope/Nessus.

So this exact opposition between my Odysseus(/Vertex) and her Odysseus(/Mars) square this guy’s nodal axis. !!

And insanely, before I ever thought of looking any of this up, months ago I made the analogy that I am Penelope waiting for him (Odysseus) to escape Circe (her) and return to me. He also brought up the Iliad in one of our first conversations... I have Greek past lives and he and I were involved in some ancient Greek cults awhile back, so the picture is coming together. So fascinating...