posted November 09, 2013 01:25 PM            

"It actually makes me think of Sappho"

LOL that was my initial thought too!

Also there seems to be a very Solar/Neptunian/Jovial/Uranian flavour to it (and those are all my favourite planets too btw, especially Neptune & Jupiter lol).

posted November 09, 2013 01:29 PM            

"ynastry wise, there's mirroring/complementing too with Saturn:
My Saturn opposite his Sun (12th house ruler) 0°
His Saturn opposite my Moon (12th house ruler) 0°"
that is really a big thing!

We have something similiar.
Natally his Saturn is square his Sun-Moon-conjunction, while my Saturn is quinkunx my Moon (both are exact).

in the synastry it is not just as complementary. Well, his Saturn squares my Sun, so far so mirroring.
my Saturn does not aspect his luminary (well, not entirely true it is exactly trinovile his Sun. But that is a tad too minor for me. lol)

However the Sun-Moon-Saturn-mirroring extends to the composites as well as first meeting chart.

For example:
in composite Saturn trines Sun and quinkunx Moon.

first meeting chart:
Moon conjuncts Pluto and both are quinkunx Sun and trine saturn, while Saturn squares Sun.

Now, our composite has another Venus-Return.
Well the next one is on the upcoming event in november, but this will only last a short while, and the real Venus-Return for the next two years, will happen in february 2014.

However this Venus-REturn for our composite in 2014 (showing what is going to happen to our connection in terms of Venus-things):

it has:

Sun on 23 Aquarius square Saurn on 23 Scorpio right on the DESC on 21 Scorpio

Moon on 25 Cancer trine Saturn and quinkunx Sun.

SAME mystical triangle our first meeting chart had!
Not only the same planets, but in the SAME aspect relationships.

AND: Sun was in an AIr sign then, too (Gemini).

And Moon actually had been in Capricorn and now will be in Cancer. lol

Oh and interestingly enough my Penelope is on 21 Scorpio and hsi Odysseus and Valentine on 19 Scorpio, and his Uranus on 23 Scorpio.

Whatever that means, it looks like a chance to evaluate things probably.

"Very intriguing how your points/angles are so strongly aspected by your C. Jupiter!"
Yes, but then again it is important in the natals and composite and everything,t oo.

we even met when Transit Jupiter was conjunct composite Moon and opposite davison Moon and also my Sun/Moon-mp.
Curiously presently Transit Jupiter (and BML) is opposite composite Moon and conjunct Davison Moon.

posted November 09, 2013 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Yes, I love the quintile energy!
Those descriptions fit so well.

"It actually makes me think of Sappho"

LOL that was my initial thought too!

Also there seems to be a very Solar/Neptunian/Jovial/Uranian flavour to it (and those are all my favourite planets too btw, especially Neptune & Jupiter lol).

Kind of reminds of me the septile aspect, though the septile is more spiritual and mental and less emotive than the quintile/bi-quintile, because the septile is a 7th-harmonic aspect and the quintile is a 5th-harmonic one.
Still, they both tend to posses a similar spiritual/etheric element.

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posted November 10, 2013 05:40 AM            

For example:
in composite Saturn trines Sun and quinkunx Moon.

first meeting chart:
Moon conjuncts Pluto and both are quinkunx Sun and trine saturn, while Saturn squares Sun."

"SAME mystical triangle our first meeting chart had!
Not only the same planets, but in the SAME aspect relationships.

AND: Sun was in an AIr sign then, too (Gemini).

And Moon actually had been in Capricorn and now will be in Cancer. lol"

OMG

I am flabbergasted.
Those are such perfect mirroring configurations!

posted November 10, 2013 06:21 AM            

As a matter of fact in a mail to IQ I once called the moon-Saturn-connection "practical soulmates" or something like this.
Ther is a very intersting interconnection between them.
While Sun-Moon makes a more spiritual pairing, it seems that Saturn brings it down to earth so to speak (of course sometimes we might not approve of the way he brings it down to earth ).

Even the time they take to complete one cycle mirrors each other. 29 days vs 29 years approximately.

But I think with Moon-Saturn you have to do something with it, materialize it in some way. It will never be enough to just spiritualize the concept. lol

posted November 10, 2013 06:34 AM            

Plus another interesting thing about Saturn-Moon is that it sort of represents the yin/yang archetypes, no?
Afterall, the IC/MC axis have a Moon/Saturn symbolism too!

posted November 19, 2013 09:50 AM            

The link talks about addiction and being petrified/feeling like a zombie...
I do tend to use my creative writing (5th house thing) to deal with my problems, be able to put the nasty feelings to words and get to look at them from another angle. Astrology's pointed out a lot of things I have to come to terms with about myself too.

posted November 19, 2013 12:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Atropos is figuring strongly for us too.

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Really, Ceri? Oh, that's interesting.

posted November 19, 2013 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Really, Ceri? Oh, that's interesting.

I get the 'death' fixation, but when I saw it also could be interpreted as 'the inevitable', that made more sense. He DOES feel SO inevitable to me.

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I can relate more to the inevitable (which might not exclude endings/ death in every case though), too.

In my own chart

Atropos: 19.49 Aquarius
Dionysos: 20.12 Aquarius

Cupido: 19.55 Leo

Sabian symbols

Atropos:
A Large White Dove Bearing A Message

Dionysos:
A Disappointed And Disillusioned Woman Courageously Faces A Seemingly Empty Life

(That - to me- resonates with Ariadne`s role in the myth quite much actually).

Cupid:
Zuni Indians Perform A Ritual To The Sun

(Keeping in mind that Dionysos is a Sun-God).

It is quite close to my Moon and Kalypso, both on 17 Aquarius

A Man's Secret Motives Are Being Publicly Unmasked

Well either I will meet my end in complete drunkenness and madness (not very likely, as I do not drink) or,

well, I think part of my Karma is creating a balance.
For all my life I identified with my Apollonian side (rational, sophisticated, rather intellectual side) much more.

Apollo in my chart is on 26.51 Libra

Sabian:
An Airplane Sails, High In The Clear Sky

That is me, seeking spirituality in lofty heights. There is nothing bad about it, and it seems to emphasise, what I learned in achakra test, that my upper chakra seem to be much more open, but that there is a problem with the very basic ones, especialy Root and most of all sacral chakra.
The problem is not that I am an intellectual, the problem is that it got out of balance.

What I NEED is a good dose of Dionysian instincts, primal urges, stripping off the intellectual defenses, well I can`t say it beter than INSTINCT.

Actually PAN in my chart is on 21.02 Cancer in 8th house, conjunct Eros on 20.59 CAncer, Vertex on 21.28 Cancer, far Sun/Moon-mp on 21.31 Cancer and even in orb for Destinn on 23. 18 Cancer.

Sabian for PAN/ Vertex/Sun/Moon-mp and I tend to count Eros for this, too:
A Young Woman Awaiting A Sailboat

Destinn:
A Woman And Two Men Castaways On A Small Island Of The South Seas

(I am so not going to get into this one right now. )

Anyway Pan on my "spear-of-destiny-axis" spells pretty much the same thing for me as Dionysos on ATropos.

And to make matters complete,

I have Ariadne on 8.26 Scorpio (on the antiscion of Dionsyos at least loosely)

And

bacchus on 13.51 Scorpio
MOira on 14.01 Scorpio

(along with London/Siva on 14 Scorpio; Eurydike on 15 Scorpio; Lancelot on 16 Scorpio opposing my name on 16 Taurus)

Tyche is on 10 Scorpio conjunct Ariadne and Bacchus, and squaring Orpheus on 10 Aquarius conjunct my Pallas.

Sabian for Bacchus:
Telephone Lineman At Work Installling New Connections

Sabian for 14
Children Playing Around Five Mounds Of Sand

Orpheus:
During A Silent Hour, A Man Receives A New Inspiration Which May Change His Life

So to summarize.

Dionysos on ATROPOS
Pan on VERTEX and DESTINN
Ariadne on TYCHE
Bacchus on MOIRA

I start thinking this myth is quite interwoven in my fate. lol
For me I think it means starting to allow the instinctual side to come out and play some mroe - THAT seems to be the way to attain spiritual insights rather than just living from my head.
Getting the sacral chakra to work some more.

Incorporating this in the synastry, I find it interetsing, that

his Pan conjuncts my Karma-Aeternitas exact (yes they ARE conjunct natally. lol)

my Pan conjuncts his Aeternitas as well.

In the composite of course they are conjunct, too. On 3 Cancer
A Cat Arguing With A Mouse

(the eternal chase to never being caught, right ? )

making a GT with Lancelot on 4 Scorpio
A Massive Rocky Shore Resist The Pounding Of The Sea

and Anteros on 5 Scorpio
The Gold Rush Tears Men Away From Their Native Soil

and Vesta on 2 Pisces
Petrified Tree Trunks Lie Broken On Desert Sand

In the composite Dionysos ALSO lands on 15 Taurus

joining

Eros on 14 Taurus
Priapus on 15 Taurs
IC on 16 Taurus

(and Priapus is a very Dionsyian character himself).

As for Atropos, we have these DW`s as far as I saw

° Atropos square/ trine Pluto (1/2)
---- quindecile in composite

° Atropos opposite/ trine Spirit (0/0)
----- quinkunx in composite

BTW natally he has Atropos opposite his Bacchus exact, which falls EXACT on my Spirit

I have Atropos conjunct Dionysus, which trines his Spirit exact.

At least for me he definitely became the inevitable doorway to access a more instinctual set of feelings, scary, yes, but I feel more myself somehow.

In the composite, ominously, Atropos on 00 TAurus is conjunct Chiron on 29 Aries, both opposie Union on 29 Libra (we both have Union on 29 Libra natally).

Well, if Atropos tells how thing end, if or when this connection ends, it will be rather painful I guess. In 3rd house probably verbally painful, or due to failed communication.

Union:
Three Mounds Of Knowledge On A Philosopher's Head

Chiron
A Duck Pond And Its Brood

However I like Atropos:
A Clear Mountain Stream

Another interpretation of Chiron/Atropos-Union could be that it is inevitable that there is a deep vulnerability inherent in this connection, yes, maybe even the reason for its existence, bringing up a lot of insecurities and pain from the past; but only by digging it up it can be released and be healed.

This opposition is being relaxed, smoothened by the trine of Chiron/Atropos to Destinn on 29 Leo in the 7th house.
An Unsealed Letter

Things NEED to be brought into the open, seen, acknowledged. That seems to be part of our destiny.

Moira on 3 Sag and more so Tyche (luck) on 1 Sag are quinkunx that said ATropos).

Moira:
A Little Child Learning To Walk With The Encouragement Of His Parents

Tyche:
White-capped Waves Display The Power Of Wind Over Sea

Modifications are needed yes, but it seems thta luck comes from letting emotions come to the surface, that might not be all smooth sailing.

There is also an interesting balance with the Dyonision themes

Bacchus on 12 Sag in 11th trines Ariadne on 12 Leo in 7th.

And both are sextile to Apollo on 11 LIbra in 8th.

Bacchus:
A Widow's Past Is Brought To Light

(no wonder I saw that as soulmates of a second chance, it resonates through all these sabians for me. lol)

Ariadne:
An Old Sea Captain Rocking Himself On The Porch Of His Cottage

Apollo:
Miners Are Surfacing From A Deep Coal Mine

(our high and mighty sophisticated Apollo seems to get rather dirty in that composite he has to dig deeper than he might like usually).

It is very very losely near to the Atlantis-Pluto-conjunction in 8th house (which is squaring Venus-Proserpina in 12th house btw).

Atlantis: 14 Libra
Circular Paths

(not a good symbol; seems we made the same mistakes over and over and over again in the past)

Pluto 15 Libra
After A Storm A Boat Landing Stands In Need Of Reconstruction

Venus 16 Cap
A Repressed Woman Finds A Psychological Release In Nudism

Proserpina 14 Cap
In A Hospital, The Children's Ward Is Filled With Toys

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Now since Apollo came to my mind, of course I HAD to look up Kassandra and Daphne, both unrequited "loves" of his (well more desires ).

my KASSANDRA is on 20 Libra exact on my DNA, and opp. my Chiron, also conjunct my Musa and Sappho - it is also exactly conjunct HIS Pluto-Anteros, and 20 Libra is the exact degree of the composite NN-Amor-Cupido-Camelot conjunction.

Seems important.

His Kassandra conjuncts my ASC exact - do I embody a Kassandra-figure to him?

my DAPHNE (opposite my own Spirit) is conjunct HIS ATropos (and opposite his Bacchus).

I seem to bring inevitably karmically maybe Daphne-experiences to him.
Daphne was the one who rather wanted to become a tree than succumbing to Apoll`s lust. And it seems he carefully tended to her even after she became a tree and he of course could not have sex with her. lol

His Apoll in his own chart is conjunct his SAturn on the DESC and VErtex - it seems to be a bit of a theme for relationships for him.

(his Apoll is contraparallel my Kassandra, too).