posted November 09, 2013 06:38 AM            

Gosh this particular sentence fits so much...

But dang this asteroid is really making me feel uneasy
Its quite active in our synastry/davison...

posted November 09, 2013 06:52 AM            

In the Davison Atropos is on 13 Virgo trine Venus.

Interestingly his own natal Atropos is conjunct Davison`s DESC, and when we met Tr Karma was right on the Davison DESC as well as his natal Atropos

As a matter of fact the exact moment we met Tr Karma was on 10.31 Cancer
And his natal Atropos is on 10.31 Cancer, too

As I sometimes jokingly say, orbs? Who needs orbs?
lol

I always like to check a composite between a moment and my own natal, as it seems to give a condensed view on what happens to me personally in a given moment.

Doing the composite between the first meeting and my natal, it comes up with both Sun and Atropos on 14 Pisces.
and loosely conjunct Venus on 16 Pisces (3rd house). sextile NN on 16 Cap.

For him, what happened this moment was:

Atropos on 25 Taurus on SN on 26 Taurus in 4th house opposite Pluto on 25 Scorpio in 10th house (yes he was having Pluto on NN; btw this conjunction was about exact and then starting to separate when we shortly crossed path the second time that year ).

and this Pluto/NN and ATroposopposition was trine/ sextile Venus on 26 Pisces (right on his natal ASC and my Draco ASC. lol)
and square Mars on 24 Leo.

posted November 09, 2013 07:10 AM            

Interesting.

EDIT:

BTW as of now Tr Atropos is on 4 Virgo trine Tr Venus on 3 Cap

4 Virgo
A Man Becoming Aware Of Nature Spirits And Normally Unseen Spiritual Agencies

3 Cap

A Group Of People Outfitting A Large Canoe At The Start Of A Journey By Water

I suppose whatever someone is discovering or realizing about matters of love and attraction and relationship right now, there will be no going back there from it anymore.

On 11th november the trine will be exact

posted November 09, 2013 07:31 AM            

Yes, thats how I feel too.
You described exactly how I experience it with him.
I feel as though I'm very naked and vulnerable to him which scares the bat **** out of me.
Like why does it have to be me ME feeling all this? (Well I guess only time will tell how he experiences it on his end too lol)
But man, I can't even imagine how much freakier it'll get when we actually meet, face to face...

I gotta say Ceri, you're very brave for having to deal with all this!
If it were to happen to me now (the meeting) I'd probably run like a chicken...

"Interestingly his own natal Atropos is conjunct Davison`s DESC, and when we met Tr Karma was right on the Davison DESC as well as his natal Atropos

As a matter of fact the exact moment we met Tr Karma was on 10.31 Cancer
And his natal Atropos is on 10.31 Cancer, too"

Oh wow that karma transit to his Atropos/your C. Desc sounds like some very heavy, serious business!

So with his Atropos on your C. Desc, would that make him the vampiric one, according to the author?

posted November 09, 2013 07:37 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The interesting thing is that this autumn it is now ME, who is having a Pluto-NN-conjunction at exact the same degrees in Scorpio, as he had 5 years ago! (when I am doing the composites between NOvember and my natal)

Interesting.

EDIT:

BTW as of now Tr Atropos is on 4 Virgo trine Tr Venus on 3 Cap

4 Virgo
A Man Becoming Aware Of Nature Spirits And Normally Unseen Spiritual Agencies

3 Cap

A Group Of People Outfitting A Large Canoe At The Start Of A Journey By Water

I suppose whatever someone is discovering or realizing about matters of love and attraction and relationship right now, there will be no going back there from it anymore.

On 11th november the trine will be exact

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Very inetersting!

Tr. Atropos is just 4 degrees away from our Suns now lol.

posted November 09, 2013 07:44 AM            

My natal Atropos opposes D. Uranus 1° and Neptune 3°
His natal Atropos conjuncts D. Moon–Venus–POF–his name stellium 2°–4°

In our composite Atropos doesn't make any aspects but its parallel to the Asc/Desc axis.

My natal Atropos opposes our C. Uranus–Neptune–Vertex conjunction 0°–4°
His natal Atropos squares our C. Pluto–IC conjunction 0°

posted November 09, 2013 08:09 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Wow, I just read that in the discovery chart ATropos was on 5 Virgo, so we are headed for an Atropos Return of the ATropos-chart.

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posted November 09, 2013 08:11 AM            

"I gotta say Ceri, you're very brave for having to deal with all this!"
It`s not that I really have a choice.

"If it were to happen to me now (the meeting) I'd probably run like a chicken... "
I did.Run.like a chicken, flapping my wings hectically.
But no matter where I run, he seems to be on the way somehow.
So, instead of flapping my wings dizzily, I figure, maybe I should stop and figure out what the purpose is.

"Oh wow that karma transit to his Atropos/your C. Desc sounds like some very heavy, serious business!"
I guess so.

"So with his Atropos on your C. Desc, would that make him the vampiric one, according to the author? "
Probably.

Though I think it also would apply if someone triggered Davison or Composite Atropos.

As a matter of fact his Mars-Jupiter-conjunction is loosely on Davison ATropos as well. lol But the orb is rather generous (2-3 degrees).

posted November 09, 2013 08:17 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

My natal Atropos conjuncts our C. My name 0°
His natal Atropos opposes our C. His name 2°

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Stunning pattern

BTW I just realized that in our Davison Atropos on 13 Virgo in 8th house is on the midpoint/ squaring the opposition of Neptune on 14 Sag in 11th and Mercury on 14 Gemini in 5th.

Brings all the miscommunication and confusion to mind, doesn`t it?

nterestingly though it is ALSO trine Venus in 11 Taurus in the 3rd house, and also trines ASC on 11 Capricorn (hey we have an exact trine of Venus - and Mars- to the ASC! oh and of course we also have this Venus-Mars-conjunction in Taurus in 3rd house) and Karma on 14 Capricorn.

posted November 09, 2013 08:40 AM            

LOL!
Sorry but that made me laugh
Just the visual image of it lol.

But yes, I can relate.
Initially it wasn't like this, I was so fascinated by our connection, by the synchronicities, how much I resonated with him, etc (still am quite stunned at that stuff) but then out of blue, I just got really really fearful of it all and tried to block him out.
Didn't work though lol, it all backfired on me by making me depressed and sick.

Those fears still come and go, but slowly I'm learning to to just let it be now and surrender to the moment.
Though its really weird, one minute I can be all "high" on him and uplifted and inpired and then the next moment I get all fearful/anxious.
Its just really crazy.

Hopefully this cycle of ups and down will settle in the future and I can get a grip on these fluctuating moods (though it'd be hard, considering I'm a Cancer moon lol).

Strangely though, any other guy before him has never been able to effect me so deeply.
I've had a more chiller attitude towards them.
But this dude, he makes me feel the extremest to the extreme of emotions, weather they be positive or negative.

"But no matter where I run, he seems to be on the way somehow.
So, instead of flapping my wings dizzily, I figure, maybe I should stop and figure out what the purpose is."

Yes, its like there's no getting away from it no matter what.
Once you come across them, there's no turning back.
And no matter how much you try to make your life the way it was again and "normal", it just can't be done.

posted November 09, 2013 08:50 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

BTW I just realized that in our Davison Atropos on 13 Virgo in 8th house is on the midpoint/ squaring the opposition of Neptune on 14 Sag in 11th and Mercury on 14 Gemini in 5th.

Brings all the miscommunication and confusion to mind, doesn`t it?

nterestingly though it is ALSO trine Venus in 11 Taurus in the 3rd house, and also trines ASC on 11 Capricorn (hey we have an exact trine of Venus - and Mars- to the ASC! oh and of course we also have this Venus-Mars-conjunction in Taurus in 3rd house) and Karma on 14 Capricorn.

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Aw that configuration sounds very dreamy, spiritual and romantic!
And the Venus-Mars conjunction just makes it even more spicey lol

posted November 09, 2013 09:08 AM            

It is a bit difficult as Uranus on 8 Scorpio oposes Mars on 9 Taurus (and maybe Venus on 11 Taurus) and Saturn on 13 Leo is squrae.
Stop and go. lol
A lot of it actually.

Well luckily enough it does not relate to a midpoint picture which would make it even more heavy (Saturn is to wide out there to trigger the Venus/Uranus-mp on 10 Leo or the Mars/Uranus-mp on 8-9 Leo).

However, Mars DOES trigger the Venus/URanus-mp

Mars=Venus/Uranus
Strong excitability in love. Creative activity. A sudden stepping-up
of the sex-life, procreation, birth.

http://tribes.tribe.net/asteroid_astrology/thread/c8cf44d1-22e0-49f2-a8e3-0159e460ab4a

posted November 09, 2013 09:19 AM            

Also I have in my natal Moon on 17 Aquarius exactly quintile Mars on 5 Sagittarius.
Mr Sag now has ATropos on 10 Cancer which is biquintile both my Moon and my Mars (so his Atropos is opposite my Moon/Mars-mp), and thus his atropos completes and becomes the peak of a Golden Yod!

My own Atropos is on 19 Aquarius, losely conjunct my Moon.

Now get this.

My Atropos is quintile my ASC on 7 Sagittarius exact, and my Atropos is biquintile and my ASC quintile his Saturn and DESC on 25 and 26 Virgo!

So my ASC is the peak of a Golden Yod with my Atropos and his Saturn/DESC at the base!
(of course itm eans that his DESC is quintile my ASC btw).

posted November 09, 2013 09:25 AM            

Ooh yes, with all those hard aspects involving Uranus/Saturn/Mars I imagine the energy of it would be very mixed!

"Well luckily enough it does not relate to a midpoint picture which would make it even more heavy (Saturn is to wide out there to trigger the Venus/Uranus-mp on 10 Leo or the Mars/Uranus-mp on 8-9 Leo).

However, Mars DOES trigger the Venus/URanus-mp"

Haha aw I love that interpretation of Mars=Venus/Uranus!

posted November 09, 2013 09:33 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Anyway I sort of notice quintiles and biquintiles cropping up anywhere I look lately. As is the case with Circe for me.
my Circe is biquintile my Odysseus. (and Penelope is opposite Odysseus).

Also I have in my natal Moon on 17 Aquarius exactly quintile Mars on 5 Sagittarius.
Mr Sag now has ATropos on 10 Cancer which is biquintile both my Moon and my Mars (so his Atropos is opposite my Moon/Mars-mp), and thus his atropos completes and becomes the peak of a Golden Yod!

My own Atropos is on 19 Aquarius, losely conjunct my Moon.

Now get this.

My Atropos is quintile my ASC on 7 Sagittarius exact, and my Atropos is biquintile and my ASC quintile his Saturn and DESC on 25 and 26 Virgo!

So my ASC is the peak of a Golden Yod with my Atropos and his Saturn/DESC at the base!
(of course itm eans that his DESC is quintile my ASC btw).

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That's so awesome!!!

posted November 09, 2013 09:35 AM            

his Vertex quintile my Saturn 0.38
his Vertex quintile my Neptune 0.21
his Vertex quintile my NN 0.08
(his Saturn quintily my Neptune 1.14)
(his Saturn quintile my NN 1.27)

his Mercury biquintile my Saturn 1.34

° this is a Golden Yod, as I have a Biquintile of Saturn to Neptune/NN natally

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his Saturn quintile my ASC 1.40

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his Moon quintile my Jupiter 0.38
- this might be my favourite so far. lol

his Moon quintile my Ceres 1.00

his MC quintile my Jupiter 1.08
his MC quintile my Ceres 0.27

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his Pluto biquintile my Juno 1.34

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his Chiron quintile my Vertex 0-.06
his Chiron biquintile my MC 1.32
his Chiron quintile my true BML 1.00

Golden Yod:
a) my Vertex and BML to his Chiron
b) my BML and his Chiron to my MC

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his Juno quintile my Pluto 0.34

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his ASC biquintile my URanus 0.19

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posted November 09, 2013 10:35 AM            

Here's our quintiles:

My Asc quintile his MC 1°
My Asc bi-quintile his Saturn 0°
My Asc quintile his True BML 0°

Moon quintile Moon 0°

My Sun bi-quintile his Pallas 0°

My Moon bi-quintile his Vertex 0°
My Moon quintile his POF 0°

My Mercury quintile his Chiron 1°

His Mercury quintile my True BML 0°

My Venus quintile his Saturn 1°

His Venus bi-quintile my Saturn 0°
His Venus bi-quintile my Pallas 0°

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Golden Yods:

My Asc bi-quintile his Saturn 0°
My Asc quintile his MC 1°
(His natal Saturn bi-quintile MC 0°)

posted November 09, 2013 10:40 AM            

Interesting with Saturn, no?

We actually have a Golden Yod in composite of Jupiter and Saturn to the Venus.
Interestingly Circe and Odysseus are relating to this.

Circe is conjunct Venus, Odysseus conjunct Saturn (so they are biquintile; which is because natally he has a quintile of Od to Circe and I have the biquintile).

Interestingly, Penelope is opposite the third ingredient of the Golden Yod, Jupiter.

posted November 09, 2013 11:33 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I love your golden yods!

Interesting with Saturn, no?

We actually have a Golden Yod in composite of Jupiter and Saturn to the Venus.
Interestingly Circe and Odysseus are relating to this.

Circe is conjunct Venus, Odysseus conjunct Saturn (so they are biquintile; which is because natally he has a quintile of Od to Circe and I have the biquintile).

Interestingly, Penelope is opposite the third ingredient of the Golden Yod, Jupiter.

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Ty

Yes, and its interesting because Saturn for the both of us is quite signifcant and prominent in our charts.
Its his 5th house ruler and my Desc co-ruler.

posted November 09, 2013 12:35 PM            

For the both of us Saturn is a relationship-planet, too.
For him it is exactly on his DESC, for me he is in 8th house.
Also disposits both our Venus.

"Funny that its also tied in with Jupiter, your "primary-planet" lol."
It really is. It is his primary-planet, too. lol

posted November 09, 2013 01:00 PM            

"They show that the two people have an (often) irrational attraction to each other (not bad, just one that there is no rational explanation for.) Frequently, other people just don't see what the two people see in each other.

If you only had Venus quintile Mars, it would not be enough to hold you two together. Conjunctions, even squares, sometimes act like a kind of glue, but not the quintile.

However, there is an undercurrent of almost magic with the quincunx, and over time the relationship grows stronger deeper, gradually transforming both people, so that over time their compatibility grows."
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Astrology-2205/Quintile-aspect-synastry.htm

"In synastry, between charts, quintiles can produce an almost otherworldly understanding of the way the individual planets are operating. If my Saturn is quintile your Venus, you will have an innate compassion for my Saturn issues, and I will instinctively know how to support your Venus.

However, relationships dominated by quintiles often possess an otherworldly quality of their own, as if they don’t rely on the common things of this life to survive. Loves that continue long after the affair is over are often quintile loves. " http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/breathing-refined-air-the-esoteric-aspects/

"The Quintile is the creative, willing risk taking, playful and joyful dimension of the relationship.

If you find these there is joy to be found in the relationship. It might be through children, through work or just simply enjoyment of each other and a common involvement with arts, music etc. These people are prepared to take a few chances, and will tend to lay it all on the line to each other so there is indwelling honesty. This is where the love affair can continue into old age. It is a solar kind of energy and if it's between personal planets, they each shine and bask in each other's glow. It occurs in partnerships in artistic fields. Individually they may be mediocre but together they're dynamite. They bounce off each other, feed each other, inspire and resonate off each other. The vibration is wonderful. It brings the facet of playfulness to the relationship, a childlike quality that means there is an area, which is fun. So, of the minor aspects you can't do better than a quintile. It's the Best Friend energy that can keep a relationship alive and vital. But it goes a little further because it empowers the individuals to be creative and fruitful within the relationship."
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012505.html

I actually have it in progressions with Mr Sag, as I just noticed on Paul Westran`s site.

"There is something uniquely unusual about your relationship, but the feelings you have for each other are no different from any other couple. The quintile bestows a creativity which stirs the curiosity. You both find each other fascinating, for different, but very closely related reasons.

When they (Sun and VEnus) connect by the quintile aspect, they tend to be poised in a dance of sublime complexity whose underlying principles are attraction and intrigue.

Whatever your talents and gifts, the quintile in relationships urges you to combine them so that you can utilize them together on the same project.

This is a temporary dynamic of your relationship, although it may occasionally last for a decade or more.

Other couples who shared this connection at the outset of their relationship include: Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward; Enrique Iglesias and Anna Kournikova, and Robert and Ethel Kennedy."

and

I once had a synastry report done (Not with Mr Sag) by Marina from darkstar astrology and I am copying what she wrote about the quintiles in there, this report as a whole resonated just so strongly with me.

the partile ones:

"Your Mercury quintile his Pluto. You are intune with his deep soul and can communicate
poetically. You read each others minds."

"Your Venus quintile his Lilith. Sex and romance combine poetically to enlighten your
souls."
"

""Your Pluto quintile his Vertex. He sucks you into poetic, transformative sex and bearing
your soul."

"Your Vertex quintile his MC. You stretch him creativity in his career."

It actually makes me think of Sappho.

Anyway, for me personall after reviewing all of these tidbits, the quintile has a bit of a magical, zany, maybe potentially erratic vibe to it.
Creative, intriguing, sparkling, poetic, carefree.

posted November 09, 2013 01:03 PM            

Its in my 8th house too lol, forgot to mention that.

Plus ist also involved in a mirroring/complementing-pattern in our respective natals.
I have Saturn trine Moon 0°
He has Saturn trine Sun 0°

Synastry wise, there's mirroring/complementing too with Saturn:
My Saturn opposite his Sun (12th house ruler) 0°
His Saturn opposite my Moon (12th house ruler) 0°

Hm, I think Saturn so being prominent in our charts, as well as in our synastries with them shows that whatever "bond" we share with them really isn't a joke! Lol.

"Interestingly composite Jupiter is exactly conjunct my SN (and 3 degrees off my DESC).
It opposes his DESC- and IC-ruler Mercury, which is actually conjunct not only my NN and ASC, but his own Musa, and composite Penelope and Lilith."