posted August 07, 2014 08:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
in a woman`s chart:

Lilith represents the part of herself, that is wild and untamed.
Those instincts and emotions that she might not even admit to herself (ever read "Run with wolves"?)

Priapus most probably will represent the kind of man she might not be able to say "No" to.
A temptation, too, but for her he might be cause he is so persistent in chasing her.
Or maybe it represents the kind of man she wants to be chased by.
I am a bit fuzzy on this one, still.

Maybe he will be "dangerous" to her, as he might make her WANT to yield and surrender despite her attempts to stay her own person,a nd not get sucked in too much?

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My priapus conjuncts his ISIS exact and his priapus conjuncts my osiris by 3 orbs. My priapus trines his priapus by less than 2 orbs.

My BML trines my NN which conjuncts his psyche exact and this forms a grandtrine with his venus/pluto/juno/alma; all tightly.

My grandcross between venus/mars opposite BML and psyche opposite chariklo/alma is activated by his sun which conjuncts my psyche and opposes my chariklo/alma and by his psyche conjuncting my NN and trining my BML and his venus/pluto/juno/alma trining my BML. His mars trines my venus and mars and his venus sextiles my venus and mars.

So this explains a lot; I think my relationship with him has a BML and Priapus theme.

It goes both ways; I can't say no to him nor he can't say no to me.

He did get me to surrender completely and I know he felt it that night it happened; like he knew. Since then there was no return. The desire to merge was so strong right from the beginning that we made out for hours at first sight bef we exchanged sentences; surrendering was inevitable.

That desire to merge is always there; we can't meet up and not end up in bed.

Do you use wider orbs with Priapus bc is bigger than the moon and so intense?

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posted August 07, 2014 08:11 PM            

"I found a short article on Lilith and Priapus, but it`s in German. (http://www.astrologieschule-heiligenhaus.de/lilith.htm)

It sais that Lilith is the point of fascination,where a person feels the emotional urge to grow beyond themselves. It`s the point where a person has much power, but often decides to suppress the power. Or she exaggerates the urge to be independent, which often forces her to be distant to other people.

Priapus now is a point, where you feel rather powerless. But at this point you have a strong capability and longing to merge with others, to feel for them, to develop empathy and basically it`s the point where oyu can adapt to others to the point of losing yourself.

Priapus is also the god of health and fertility (son of Venus and Bacchus / Dionysos). And it seems, according to mythology, he was having a constant erection. Well, what could you expect of a God, who is son of the goddess of erotic love and the god of extasy? lol
But I think it just symbolizes that he is very much in touch with the earth, with all instincts, with a strong desire to merge and become ONE with earth / life.

Maybe the difference between Lilith and Priapus is like this:
Both are driven by very strong desires.
But Lilith demands to be equal, independent, to voluntarily turn to someone, or else she will repell or be repelled. She can`t make any compromises. In the best sense she`s painfully truthful, and she makes great sacrifices (like being rejected from society) to maintain her independence.

Priapos on the other hand has such a great need to merge, that he will sacrifice the truth for it. He will make any compromises that are necessary to be close to someone. But since PRiapos is also a male God, he seems to be also prone to become sexually violent or absusive, to force closeness to his "object of affection".
At least the myth tell about him attempting to rape at least two goddesses / nymphs. But everytime the rape has been interrupted, before it could be done, and Priapus has been kicked out.
He is a nasty little god, isn`t he? At least int he myth.
But on the positive side he has a very direct access to his fertility and lust.

I`m not really sure what to make of it astrologically. But maybe Priapus depicts a point in the horoscope where there is an overwhelming urge to merge, which may become so overwhelming and desperate that you may humilate yourself, by committing really low acts (be they destructive towards others as in an attempted rape. or be they selfdestructive, by "offering" yourself, even if oyu know that you will never get back enough, so that you will be satisfied; the willingness to live a lie just to feel the illusion of merging.)

posted August 07, 2014 09:10 PM            

I wanted to surrender without letting myself be tamed by him.

I have venu/mars opposite BML squaring chariklo.

It played out like this with us; he wanted to seduce me and get me to surrender but he wanted to tame me overall too. He got me to surrender my heart, body and soul but was not able to tame me. Nobody can tame me though: "I am."

posted August 07, 2014 09:59 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
I find surrendering myself to be very difficult, lilith energy is ramped in my natal chart.

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Interesting..

I have saturn in scorpio so part of my lesson was to learn to surrender and my moon in pisces wanted this so it facilitated the process but my saturn rules my 2nd and inconjuncts chiron so I think part of my karma was also to get my heart broken and learn to heal.

But he is the only one that got me to really surrender and I think Priapus played an important role in combo with our moon to moon conjunction.

posted August 07, 2014 10:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I was wondering what does it mean if my Prapirus falls on our comp chart Moon/Cupido and his falls on our comp BM Lilith in 7th house?

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posted August 07, 2014 10:07 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Did it feel like love at first site? anything synastry wise?

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Yes definitely love at first sight!
His Priapus is conjunct my Amor and trine my asteroid Lilith.
My Priapus is conjunct his Osiris which is opposed his Karma on my Chiron.
My BM Lilith is opposed his Isis which is on my Karma and his BM Lilith is square my Isis both exact aspects.

Edit....I just noticed our comp 1181 asteroid Lilith, leo@29.01 our comp Priapus cap@0.17 trined.....
My Mars gem@29.33 and my Osc. Lilith taurus@0.23
His Jupiter scorp@0.46

posted August 07, 2014 10:34 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Interesting..

I have saturn in scorpio so part of my lesson was to learn to surrender and my moon in pisces wanted this so it facilitated the process but my saturn rules my 2nd and inconjuncts chiron so I think part of my karma was also to get my heart broken and learn to heal.

But he is the only one that got me to really surrender and I think Priapus played an important role in combo with our moon to moon conjunction.

What lilith aspects do you have? I bet if you meet someone who activates significantly your priapus perhaps you will surrender although he wont tame you. Have you met someone who activates your priapus?

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I am not interested in surrendering though I'm all about
equality. The activation of my Priapus doesn't work the same as it would for a male in their natal chart.

posted August 08, 2014 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
I am not interested in surrendering though I'm all about
equality. The activation of my Priapus doesn't work the same as it would for a male in their natal chart.

BML in 7th opposes my Asc under 29 secs and Moon
BML trines my Sun under 3
Asteroid Lilith in 9th conjuncts my MC/NN under 10 secs
Asteroid Lilith trines my Moon and squares my Mars under 1

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I am all about equality too, just ask my husband, ex, guys I have dated and guys I have left in hotel rooms hanging bc my chariklo squaring venus/mars and BML decided they did not deserve me bc they did not see me as equals and I CANT STAND THAT, oh yeah I have done that several times. If a guy expects it and feels entitled they are in for a big surprise and if they don't expect it or feel entitled but hope then they are in for a nice surprise.

I dont think surrendering your heart means you are changing your essence for another; there is a difference between surrendering and letting yourself be tamed I feel. Meaning you can surrender but not compromise and tell your partner accept me as is or this is not going to work. You can spend an entire lifetime with someone trying to tame you and not succeeding but they deep down like it that you are like that, the lilith type.

"The activation of my Priapus doesn't work the same as it would for a male in their natal chart."

posted September 12, 2015 11:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Aurora_girl1990:
I have bml conjunct my IC in the 4th house too(conjunct pluto as well).What does this mean?

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posted September 14, 2015 07:55 AM            

Osc.lilith conjunct vertex 0

Bml conjunct spirit 2

posted October 10, 2015 10:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It is a multilayered issue.

Actually BOTH are of lunar symbolism, as they represent the perigee (Priapus) and apogee (Lilith) of the Moon.

So, they do not reflect the masculine-feminine principle on the basis of the solar-lunar-connection (Sun-Moon), but if they represent this at all, it is all in reference to the lunar realm (the emotional-instinctual sphere).

Letīs have a look at what they really are.

Priapus is the point where the moon is closest to earth- looking much bigger than normally, even making a difference in the tides,wich tend to be more extreme. (because due to the Moon being closer to earth, the gravitational pull is stronger - hence the tides are higher or there is more variation in them).

That is Priapus.
A bigger moon, clearly dominating the midnight sky. Greater tides (water).

The emotional sphere is clearly heightened, more intense, maybe even in a most irrational way, like everything "feels" bigger more meaningful, more emotionalized.

It is closer to earth (matter) than to the Sun (spirit).
Priapus needs to manifest in an earthly manner. LEt me be blunt, Priapus wants to feel close to somebody, and the way for him to do it, is literally merge with the other part, not in a detached mental or spiritual way, but through sex, simply put.
Physical closeness (emotional closeness - lunar symbolism- on the physical level - earth).

Now, usually we attribute this need to adapt to others, to merge with them, to bring people together, to compromise, to make personal connections, rather with the feminine psychology.

In this sense we have raw masculine power here, yes that might be true, but clearly carrying the feminine notion of "connecting" with it. The urge for connection is so great that PRiapus will do basically anything to accomplish that.

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LOL. This is so accurate is insane. Thanks for taking the time to explain and describe this so eloquently expanding further my understanding of these two which are so strongly tied to who I am and my story with Mr.Ray.

So my True Priapus conjuncts my Vertex, my Valentine and my Transpluto-Isis and squares his True Lilith which is widely conjunct his SUN by about 6d, his True Priapus conjuncts his chiron by 4d. Since his lilith is closer to his SUN he identifies with Lilith more and since I have all this stuff on my Priapus I identify with Priapus more. Further his Priapus been close to chiron in the 8th must make him feel very vulnerable so pushing him further to react more Lilith like.

Our hx would label me as the "stalker" in this dynamic except that he always surrenders while I am present and once I leave goes back to his Lilith ways and retracts. I am using Stalker lightly though, I never was a hard cord stalker but he is the ONLY guy that ever brought out the stalker side of me and who I would show up at his door step unannounced and surprise him but it was always at his home and we dated for about a year and talked about getting married so like I said I am using "stalker" in its more light application. When I show up its a reunion for us and its always beautiful and he is always warm and great.