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pocaloca
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posted December 14, 2013 05:08 PM
  
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... Hmmm. Are any of the midpoints 19* LIBRA? I don't like that cluster of planets like that with your DEJANIRA involved. Sometimes, these can be explained away by particularly violent collaborative art, or something. Otherwise, it just tends to be a big red-flag.Oh, I know my SUN is 19* LIBRA. I find that terribly ironic. (I'm a criminologist - among other things, heh.)
Well we are both in a way unusual..he is an artist freak ( for many) and I am a wild nut with good sense for arts in general..something like that...So we are both not a so called cliche and typical.. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted December 14, 2013 05:13 PM
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Well I kinda feel that for this man..and mystery is the part of his Scorpio rising, venus, mars..they are like that..He never lied to me and what he said was honest and straight away..I am the one who makes one step in front , two back cos I simply have it hard to believe that I met someone like that, who ignites so much passion in me, makes me loose control anyway, I thought our synastry special especially with so many magi cinderella linkages we share but after reading your approach and opinion I am quite devastated now and in worry...But I thank you from the bottom of my heart cos I am about to move toward that story or leave , not much time left anymore, so It would help me in making the right decision for sure...at least consider possibilities i did not took in account. Thank you and I wish you all the very best with your love, your " right" man Indigo:*
I'm worried, too. I just ... am. But there's a reason for all of this. IF he's evolved, (and you'll KNOW if he's evolved) then you can soar to wonderful heights. BUT ... he absolutely has to be evolved. And you can't let yourself get 'hooked into' it if he isn't ... because that IS devastating. We obviously don't want any of that. But I feel protective. I've got a bit of an Artemisian thing going on, or Hekate, or however you want to look at it. And I'm metaphorically stepping between you and putting an arm out. That concerns me. And Ceri's bells are going off. THAT alarms me. I trust her instincts like my own. (Long story there.) If he's evolved, he can be wonderful. If he isn't, he can be a nightmare. I don't like that he's playing games. It makes me worry he's not capable of being what you need (and deserve) him to be. DEJANIRA needs a very soft place to fall, because she's so sensitive, fragile, and delicate. I think ... if it were right ... you wouldn't need your MARS there to block his NESSUS - if that makes sense. You could both teach each other a lot - if he has certain fundamentals down. And I just don't know if he does. You would know better. You're drawn to him to learn something - but what? Another thought: where are your PRIAPUS (h22) and BML? When dealing with dark sexual energy and raw, primal passions - these need to be investigated. (BML is listed as 'LILITH' in the drop-down menu of Astrodienst.) Sorry for being in-and-out today. I've had a few clients squeeze in appointments before the holiday rush. 
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posted December 14, 2013 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Whew, thank God. I don't like 19* LIBRA with that much abusive energy around. It tends to result in homicide.
What is significant about 19 Libra? And how is his moon being only 1 degree off a relief? IP: Logged |
pocaloca
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posted December 14, 2013 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Whew, thank God. I don't like 19* LIBRA with that much abusive energy around. It tends to result in homicide.
ahaha...you already saw us killing each other!
he is actually very calm and controlled, with gentle voice, I am the one who looses it, is rather loud..hot blooded mediterranean woman IP: Logged |
pocaloca
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posted December 14, 2013 05:17 PM
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Has t-PLUTO been opposing your VENUS this year? I can't see your VENUS degree.
Dont know....my venus is at 2°46'23" cancer IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted December 14, 2013 05:19 PM
19* LIBRA has repeatedly appeared in charts of homicide. Repeatedly. I'd almost say that when I see the degree, I have to start looking for violent potential. It's not so much strategy or lust murder as much as it's crimes of passion. It's the moment that someone suddenly has enough and lashes out, and the consequences are fatal. It's the moment that suddenly everything changed.Being calm and collected is nothing. There's potential. It's a hot button. You watch it. My husband and I have it. His URANUS (7R), my SUN. He KNOWS it could happen. He could lose it and kill me. I know it, too. We don't let ourselves get to that point. Period. If you have a violent midpoint falling on that degree, I'd say be mindful you're building a house on an active volcano. May not erupt. But be prepared to move if it does!
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pocaloca
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posted December 14, 2013 05:25 PM
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Another thought: where are your PRIAPUS (h22) and BML? When dealing with dark sexual energy and raw, primal passions - these need to be investigated. (BML is listed as 'LILITH' in the drop-down menu of Astrodienst.)Sorry for being in-and-out today. I've had a few clients squeeze in appointments before the holiday rush. [/B]
No problem wonderful, I really appreciate your time and
concern....
I know that my BML is tight degree on his ASC in scorpio...the rest I must check..
Here is the chart
 I must say that he has a homicide aspect in his natal chart...MARS conjunct Uranus..so I am more worried something may happen to him.. I am btw. loud but not aggressive in that way..never was. Till now no man aver went physical on me vice versa...usually very civilised.. Ok, only significant aspect of Priapus is his Priapus is making trine by 3° orb, to my mercury..no other significant aspects..
My Lilith conjuncts his MARS, URANUS AND AC by 2° and opposes his CHIRON also 2°
His Lilith trines my MOON by 1°, trines my NEPTUNE 4° and sextile PLUTO 0°..tats all.. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted December 14, 2013 05:29 PM
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Dont know....my venus is at 2°46'23" cancer
It's very wide, but was about 6 orb when you met. It was exact back around this time in '09.
http://www.thefutureminders.com/Pluto-transits/pluto-opposition-venus.cfm That's a good rough sketch of the transit. Exactness of aspects is a funny thing. I met the man who I was telling you about - my dom, costar and creative partner - when PLUTO was making a 5 orb applying trine to my VENUS. However, it was nearing exact when we finally got back together (this past October); had been going retrograde, then stationed and went direct again, staying about 1 orb off of being an exact aspect. I think the exactness 'fails' because of other configurations and midpoints. It's spooky how exact THOSE get when you find them.
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pocaloca
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posted December 14, 2013 05:42 PM
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It's very wide, but was about 6 orb when you met. It was exact back around this time in '09.
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I met him, first time spoke to him on the 08.08 this year ?? we connected beginning of 2012 but never spoke, I did not even noticed him really...so , no!! not all is that black
I just saw...pluto 180 venus 6° Chiron 120 Sun 0°, MARS 0 MARS 1°..PLUTO 150 SATURN 1°, pluto 0 JUPITER 3 ° ..ajajajajaj IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted December 14, 2013 07:12 PM
The one I'd expect to see, if it's having any effect, would be PRIAPUS conjunct BML. Looks like there are no major aspects there.MARS/URANUS is a violent midpoint. When MARS and URANUS conjunct, there's the potential for violence. I have that, too. I think to deal with the violence I encountered, I went into criminology. I chose to be on the side of the law instead. Lemme take a look at the rest here .... IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted December 14, 2013 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
Till now no man aver went physical on me vice versa...usually very civilised..
'Til now? What do you mean by that exactly? IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted December 14, 2013 07:22 PM
Yes, seeing a lot of 0 degree points is kind of a reset. The potential to wipe the slate, so to speak. Karmically, at least.t-PLUTO opposite VENUS depends entirely upon natal aspects, too. For some, it can be very healing with a rough start. For others, the beginning of a very tumultuous relationship or relationship period. t-JUPITER transiting your natal MARS is interesting, too. We're prone to excesses in the areas of the houses ruled. Interesting, since ARIES is, I think, intercepted (that's you, right?) entirely into your 12H. And JUPITER rules your 8H. May've been feeling a tad riskier than usual. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted December 14, 2013 07:40 PM
One more thing I'm going to put up here for a brief period, since it's information I'd like to keep otherwise confidential. But here, I think it applies.You've said, given his SCORPIO placements, he tends to automatically play mind-games. Here are my humble thoughts on that. Those who have been trained in propaganda, influence and psychological persuasion are expected to allow these skills to become second-nature. In other words, it's not unheard of that those retired or have moved on to other fields would be operational pathological liars and always conducting their interactions under a veil of deception. It stands to reason, given the experience; especially if it was for a lengthy period. But this is not the case. If an ex 'psy-warrior' (as they tend to be called) lies pathologically, is constantly double-speaking, disguising true intention, and, worse, manipulating - they should NEVER use their previous experience and training as an excuse. EVER. I'd think they'd have to guard against it in any case, and some do. I know, having been trained as a psychological profiler, it's been very hard for me to not read everyone like a book; to accept them at face-value, and understand that normal human relationships have contradictions. It doesn't immediately reveal a manipulation or an influence. But I've been trained to detect them. See what's going on there? Just as he was trained to deceive, I was trained to detect it. We don't lie to each other. We don't play games. We're transparent and upfront; we make an effort to be. Maybe because we know how detrimental it could be if we weren't. So, knowing that someone who's literally an expert in mind control doesn't use it to manipulate others, hasn't LET it become second-nature, and makes a BETTER effort to BE truthful ... I can't let someone with no such training or experience 'automatically' play mind-games - and think that's okay. Personally, I don't think you should, either.
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pocaloca
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posted December 14, 2013 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by pocaloca:
Till now no man aver went physical on me vice versa...usually very civilised..
'Til now? What do you mean by that exactly? Ahahaha, not that what you assume Indigo because I def.expressed it wrongly. I mean, no man, previous partner, romance in my life, was ever physically abusive to and with me...ever.
My ex husband of 7 years once broke his hand, smashed his anger in to the wall, just to prevent himself of hitting me..
and I can be a real pain in axx! trust me on that one.
Gemini Sun and Mercury if angry ( Moon in Aries, Venus square Pluto) uses the tongue like a knife, machete.
It takes a really strong man to deal with it.. Anyway I am not attracted to physically abusive guys and I also guess they are not to me cos it would probable all end in a real bloodbath..
So I never had that " luck" to meet and be with one and I guess this would not happen either. Thats my astral code somehow. Btw. had very aggressive, uncontrolled mother as a child so I guess that my nose hates that smell and is
disinterested as soon a man with that trait, potential is around...they come as primitive, asocial neanderthals across and I totally dont like to loose time with them.
On the other hand I am verbally very strong, can be a maniac and run amok with my tongue easy if angry, but I never ever feel I want to use a physical force either..I feel intellectually strong enough to, at least , try to win the battles of misunderstanding and anger..well, hope I explained now better. IP: Logged | |
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