posted January 23, 2014 09:05 AM            

Lilith conjunct the ASC or MC is a very sexy person. I ask these natives to send me a picture. Without fail, they vibe raw sexuality. This is the same for men and women. They have a come-hither feel. They attract attention due to this, whether or not they want it. Some natives want the attention. Some natives don’t.

In synastry, one should look for the Lilith of one person aspecting the personal planets and angles of the other person. Then, there will be raw sexuality shared between the two. The Lilith person will bring it to the planet person( just in considering this one aspect only)

I am not sure how Lilith conjunct the IC works. It seems like there may have been sexual abuse with this, just from the look of it. However, I would need you to provide personal reports, so we all can learn.

Lilith conjunct the DSC would be a native who looks for raw sexuality in the partner. The native nay have blocked his own raw sexuality. One cannot say that, for sure, just from this one aspect. However, what conjuncts the DSC is often blocked in oneself and looked for in the partner.

To give some specific examples of Lilith in synasry. When I see a man’s( for example) Lilith conjunct a woman’s North Node, I know that the Theme of the relationship will be raw sexuality. This can be very good if there is soul, too. If there are no aspects for soul, I would expect it to be a fling.

If a man’s Lilith conjunct a woman’s ASC, she would feel an overwhelming feeling of the man as a sexual being. He may make her weak in the knees. That would be the best way to describe it.

If a man’s Lilith conjunct a woman’s Venus, she would feel much the same as the ASC. However, she would feel it more as that she was desired for her beauty and sexuality. She would most likely feel as Carole Kings song, “You Make Me Feel Like a Natural Woman”. I think all women know how it feels when a man makes you feel very desired . This would explain Lilith conjunct Venus

These are a few of the placements in synastry that I have noted as I have done charts. Please, chime in with your own and we will learn together!

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posted January 23, 2014 09:17 AM            

She is though what I call the "dark side of the Moon", representing the instinctual sphere that often is not "welcomed" because it represents a certain risk for a calm cooperation in society. She doesnt play to these "social rules".

Within the symbolism she is the "solar manifestation of the Moon", very independent, very individualistic even, but it is not to forget she is STILL a lunar symbol. But she is not civilized, not tamed.

I agree with the interpretation,t hat strong Lilith-aspects often manifest as intense sexual attraction.
But what is the reason for the attraction?
What is the purpose?
It is not procreation (actually tense Lilith-transits have been found to relate to difficulties regarding pregnancy and childbirth). It is not to lead into marriage, at least seen as a social institution.

But it is to touch the raw power of your soul, or someone else`s soul. Primal, instinctive, untamed, uncivilized, and these kind of feelings are often expressed (if at all) through or in sexuality.

posted January 23, 2014 09:21 AM            

The asteroids show shades of meaning. With Lilith, I am up for learning

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posted January 23, 2014 09:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I find Lilith really hard to pin down, Ceri. That is why I am asking. To me, she does not feel soulful but more animal like in her sexuality. There is a big difference.

The asteroids show shades of meaning. With Lilith, I am up for learning

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i think it depends what you mean when you are saying "soulful".

If you mean the cuddly, comforting, I-will-take-care-of-you-when-you`re-sick, tender soft kind of connection, no, Lilith is certainly not that.

I find it described quite well here:

"Black Moon Lilith

Perhaps the most subtle and intriguing of the three Liliths, Black Moon is not a physical body but an abstract, geometrical point, like the Ascendant or the Vertex. Because the Moon's path around the Earth is elliptical, as opposed to circular, it has two foci, or centers, the Earth being one and Black Moon Lilith the other. We can also describe this point as the apogee of the Moon's orbit - the place where it is farthest from Earth.

The center of gravity between the Earth and Moon is inside the Earth. As part of the Earth-Moon system, Black Moon is a point or energetic vortex intimately bound to the center of the Earth. Within this context, Lilith is a twin to the core energy of the Earth, the deep heart of fire that feeds and sustains our bodies and the body of the Earth. The creative vitality of the Sun gives life to the Earth and fuels this central core fire.

As a centerpoint of the Moon's orbit, Black Moon Lilith works in relationship with the Earth-Moon system and with the Sun. As a second center of reference, she gives a sense of rhythm to the Earth, taking the dynamics of relationship beyond the personal Moon-Venus energies into more subtle dimensions that are essential to our lives. For this reason Black Moon Lilith has a strong impact on relationship dynamics. Representing the closest reach of the Moon to the Sun, she is also a reference point in our personal lives that brings us into relationship with the heart of our Sun-fueled experience on Earth, an emotional intelligence informed by the wisdom of earthy instinct. Since our culture has lost - even rejected, as Lilith was rejected - this kind of natural wisdom, it is more difficult to tap into and trust it. Relationships that carry the Lilith energy are initiatory, soul-to-soul meetings that open into a deeper center where personal and impersonal experience merge. Can we trust this energy that is unraveling our edges, tapping into such a deep well? Can we trust ourselves?

The Black Moon point is where we are lured into our more self-centered illusions for the purpose of purging negative desires, thereby leading us to the deeper truth within our hearts, the longings and yearnings of our souls. She insists that we feel through, let go, and surrender to something essential and transparent in us that is primary - the bedrock beneath the shifting sands, the passion of the soul.

posted January 23, 2014 09:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Moon is Lunatic:
I have Lilith and Pluto on my MC.

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I want a picture

If you will, click on my e mail address on here. I paste it on my own e mail and do it that way.

There may be an easier way but I am not that good with computers so do it that way.

I would love to see it!

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posted January 23, 2014 09:48 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I have BML conjunct IC (widish though). I wasn't sexually abused. My Lilith asteroid is also in the 4th house but further. Any questions?

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And yet you're so lilithy. So no, no questions.

posted January 23, 2014 09:50 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I have BML conjunct IC (widish though). I wasn't sexually abused. My Lilith asteroid is also in the 4th house but further. Any questions?

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If your time of birth is right, how would you say that raw sexuality was a part of your childhood home.

Now, IC can be our deepest soul, too, so you may relate to Lilith on that level.

What do you think?

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posted January 23, 2014 09:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I want a picture

If you will, click on my e mail address on here. I paste it on my own e mail and do it that way.

There may be an easier way but I am not that good with computers so do it that way.

I would love to see it!

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posted January 23, 2014 10:02 AM            

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Originally posted by page one:
And yet you're so lilithy. So no, no questions.

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Lilithy in what way?

posted January 23, 2014 10:08 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Ami...You cracked me up, thanks. I wouldn't be surprised if my conception was the last time my partents had sex. When it comes to me, I'm not even sexually active. Looks like my Liliths have little if anything to do with sex.

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I know you have mentioned things like that, Cappy. To me, and this is just me, if something pivotal does not fit, such as Chiron by house, I think the time of birth is wrong.

Perhaps, your Lilith is not really conjunct your IC.

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posted January 23, 2014 10:38 AM            

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Originally posted by olgatheo:
All in gemini all conj. The ASC - BML,Mars , valentine and Anteros.

Just a note when BML was transit in Gemini ( June 2012) got pregnant but unfort . Miscarriaged in Sep. 2012 .

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So very sorry for your loss, my Friend. I lost a child, too, so understand

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posted January 23, 2014 10:49 AM            

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Originally posted by olgatheo:
All in gemini all conj. The ASC - BML,Mars , valentine and Anteros.

Just a note when BML was transit in Gemini ( June 2012) got pregnant but unfort . Miscarriaged in Sep. 2012 .

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This is an amazing chart. I would love to see a picture, if you would care to.

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posted January 23, 2014 11:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Moon is Lunatic:
I sent you some pics of myself, Ami.

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Aww kewl. Thank you MIL! I will look, now.

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posted January 23, 2014 11:18 AM            

It is hard to describe but it is a natural sexiness with a kind of hidden naughtiness.

Lovely pic, MIL

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posted January 23, 2014 12:02 PM            

Lilith (BML) isn't sexuality. Lilith is actually the soul inside of you that got suppressed. It is the shadow side of your soul. You wanted to disown it, maybe because you find it unacceptable to accept it due to your cultural/religious background or in today's society.

But you have to own Lilith because when you do, your soul is one. Lilith is very much about embracing sexuality. But when they talk about embracing sexuality, it doesn't just mean sexual powers. It means you are comfortable being a woman and no longer deny the hidden part in you. You don't live a life being submissive to men. You are not afraid to voice out demands about equality in life or in bed. I suppose that's why it can come off as "raw sexuality" since you are now comfortable in your own skin and know exactly what you want.

Regarding the story of Lilith eating children (which I usually ignore), she wasn't literally "eating children". It means she lost the nurturing side of her as a woman. Or maybe she doesn't want to be seen as a nurturer as a marriage partner.

posted January 23, 2014 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
No one wants to see my sexy pictures? ;(

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posted January 23, 2014 12:07 PM            

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Originally posted by summerlite:
i have very deep thoughts about Lilith for the past few days.

Lilith (BML) isn't sexuality. Lilith is actually the soul inside of you that got suppressed. It is the shadow side of your soul. You wanted to disown it, maybe because you find it unacceptable to accept it due to your cultural/religious background or in today's society.

But you have to own Lilith because when you do, your soul is one. Lilith is very much about embracing sexuality. But when they talk about embracing sexuality, it doesn't just mean sexual powers. It means you are comfortable being a woman and no longer deny the hidden part in you. You don't live a life being submissive to men. You are not afraid to voice out demands about equality in life or in bed. I suppose that's why it can come off as "raw sexuality" since you are now comfortable in your own skin and know exactly what you want.

Regarding the story of Lilith eating children (which I usually ignore), she wasn't literally "eating children". It means she lost the nurturing side of her as a woman. Or maybe she doesn't want to be seen as a nurturer as a marriage partner.

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