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IndigoDirae
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posted February 24, 2014 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I felt like I was always sane in the midst of craziness until I shut down and became numb. Alice conj mercury is really the story of my life, Gabby. How amazing are these charts??


With ALICE on MERC, you seek to rationalise in the face of absurdity. Your answer to dealing with the unknown is to research, study, and gain information.

Which house?

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posted February 24, 2014 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by florence:
yes this is so true for me - i've been accused of so many things and like the above it caused much pain.

conjunct psyche exact in h1, scorpio


PSYCHE-MADHATTER seeks a deeper meaning to the insanity. You fight back with your soul's knowledge rather than logic or rationale. In SCO, I can imagine it's very intense; an emotional experience.

My MADHATTER is in my 1H, too, on my ASC.

I think MADHATTER in the 1H eventually asks of us to confront the madness within ourselves. I'm not sure if we get a larger dose than the rest, but it becomes a central theme for us. A bigger part of us.

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posted February 24, 2014 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Panthera Leo:
Actually its Disney that have screwed things up with the new version.They shouldn't have called her the Red Queen and keep making references to the Queen of Hearts.

Exactly.

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IndigoDirae
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posted February 24, 2014 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Exactly and people always tell me that I am very sane. All sorts of people ask me for advice and think I have a great sense of reality but I doubt myself.

Alice conj my Mercury is a blessing to me, Gabby. Do you know what I mean? It confirms that I was really the sane one in a crazy world all along


I wouldn't go THAT far with it, honestly.

ALICE is nothing more than our encountering the unknown. Aspects to it would show how we go about it. Hence, MERC being your attempts to think it through, and be logical.

Or, we could look at your MERC as ALICE-tinted: daydreamy, petulant, curious and youthful.

ALICE conj MERC may also simply be a curious, inquisitive mind. Which you no doubt have.

As to wondering about insanity - that's MADHATTER. Also, afflictions to ALICE and what planets / points appear in a pattern may help you understand her relationship to sanity or delusion.

I'd imagine NEPTUNE's involvement by harsh aspect would indicate the sort of experience you're expressing.

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posted February 24, 2014 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A few others you'll want to check when finding a pattern involving ALICE and / or MADHATTER.

WHITERABBIT is that which obsesses and drives us. It's compulsion. (To some degree, if afflicted, there can be some indication of obsessive-compulsive tendency as well.) It's what we're chasing after, avidly hunting. The aspects and how it's placed show us why.

CHESHIRECAT is another tricky one. Here, we receive assistance, and even companionship - with strings attached. Nor is it anything we can control. There's ulterior motive, and the help (and camaraderie) can disappear just as quickly as it came - as well as lead to unintended, troublesome results.

Gabby already shared what Dodgson was going for with the REDQUEEN. Indeed, she is imperious calculation. Logical to a fault with her passions tightly in check. Think of a SATURN/PLUTO=VENUS flavour with a 10H vibe. Coolly domineering and a very detached, aloof leader. You can expect one with her prominent to be very proper, contained to the point of being ascetic, and very sophisticated. Either in appearance, manner, demeanour, or both.

JABBERWOCKY is a curious one. It would seem rather than denote an actual threat, this one is imagined. Instead, it represents our paranoia. Where it's hitting, we're liable to catastrophise, fear the worst, and be on our guard. Of course, should we tackle this crippling fear, it can bestow upon us a great freedom and a most frabjous day. Callooh! Callay!

Hope that gives you a bit more to work with. 😊

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posted February 24, 2014 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Red queen is on my MC!!

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posted June 18, 2015 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Piscean Tigress
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posted June 21, 2015 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Piscean Tigress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Close conjunct with my Venus and Karma! I felt in love few times in my life, but when I did it... I loose all the ground!!

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