posted February 05, 2014 09:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Panthera Leo:
Ami I just feel a bit apathetic.I think thats the right word to describe my feelings at the moment.

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I see

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posted February 05, 2014 09:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Panthera Leo:
Ami I just feel a bit apathetic.I think thats the right word to describe my feelings at the moment.

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posted February 05, 2014 09:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Panthera Leo:
I also think I don't know which one of my many faces to wear today.I don't know who's side Im on.I think I don't want to be on anybodys side but my own.I find it hard to even look at other people sometimes its hard to pretend that I care as much as I say I do when I don't.

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Be true to you...it kind of sounds like your worried or feeling you need to be something that you don't want to be?
That happens when your giving more out than your taking in....you get confused and a bit resentful then you get numb to deal with the guilt of not wanting to be there for others when you think you should want to be there for them.
You don't need to be there for anyone but yourself first and foremost. Worry about being there for people when you have enough to feed yourself and still have something left to give, if you don't your starving yourself and that only leads to emotional pain that will eventually harm you and/or others!
Don't put on any face except the one that is you! No brave face, no smiling face, no martyr face...put on the face that displays what you really feel, and then let it guide you!

posted February 05, 2014 09:48 PM            

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posted February 05, 2014 09:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Aww Gabby
That is so healing to me! xx

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posted February 05, 2014 10:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Panthera Leo:
Thanks Gabby

The problem is im not really giving out a lot out.I am sort of shut off from the world.Although its not that I constantly take without giving.Its just at the moment I feel numb and don't really know who I am anymore.I feel like I know parts of who I am but its like they conflict and are separate from each other.Its like im not a whole person.

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I totally understand, PL

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posted February 05, 2014 10:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Panthera Leo:
Thanks Gabby

The problem is im not really giving out a lot out.I am sort of shut off from the world.Although its not that I constantly take without giving.Its just at the moment I feel numb and don't really know who I am anymore.I feel like I know parts of who I am but its like they conflict and are separate from each other.Its like im not a whole person.

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You've shut down because your having an internal conflict between being the person your expected to be and being the person you long to be!
What we are taught to be or told to be doesn't always fit with who we need to be to feel good and whole!
Once the part of us wakes up and realizes that who we are pretending to be isn't making us feel good or feeding our soul, we become resentful but resentment isn't an "appropriate" emotion regarding us being the person we are taught to be, so it's forced down and followed by guilt which then brings on a numb to drown out all the confusion, conflict, feeling lost and hopeless.
At least in my experience???

posted February 06, 2014 03:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

A person may have grown up in a home in which nothing made sense. Reality was skewed to the point that the person may have shut down. Emotional or mental illness may have ensued. With this asteroid, I think persecution of the native ensued, as well. I think the person was framed and blamed for things he did not do. I think he was persecuted but INNOCENT of any charges against him.

Check your Madhatter Asteroid and Comment on my Comment Form. I await your comments!

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I have this conjunct my Moon, and what you say here was def. a strong theme and a major source of pain in my childhood...Every last word of that description applies...

posted February 06, 2014 06:55 AM            

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The Madhatter Asteroid(6735)
By amiann | Published: February 5, 2014 |

I discover my asteroids through use. I read the myths or the stories and I try to apply them to everyday life. What good is an esoteric tome from which one cannot extract practical wisdom? As such, I would describe the Madhatter Asteroid as follows..

A person may have grown up in a home in which nothing made sense. Reality was skewed to the point that the person may have shut down. Emotional or mental illness may have ensued. With this asteroid, I think persecution of the native ensued, as well. I think the person was framed and blamed for things he did not do. I think he was persecuted but INNOCENT of any charges against him.

Check your Madhatter Asteroid and Comment on my Comment Form. I await your comments!

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yes this is so true for me - i've been accused of so many things and like the above it caused much pain.

posted February 06, 2014 07:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Alice-291
Madhatter-6735
Marchare-6736
Whiterabbit-17942
Chishirecat-6042
Tweedledee-9387
Tweedledum-17681
RedQueen-17518
Whiteknight-17612
King-2305
Knight-29391
Jabberwoky-7470
Tea-453
The White Queen's name--"Miriana"
Marianna-602
The Dodo bird...
Dodo-6336
Bandersnatch-9780
Mockturtle-8889

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I have:

Sun conjunct Madhatter
Dodo conjunct Ascendant
Mercury conjunct Knight
Mercury conjunct Tweedledee
King conjunct Jupiter
Mars conjunct Cheshirecat

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posted February 07, 2014 08:48 AM            

Put in your orbs, please! xx

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posted February 07, 2014 09:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
MIL

Put in your orbs, please! xx

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posted February 24, 2014 02:05 AM            

In regards to MADHATTER, I first published that on this thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002323.html

posted February 24, 2014 02:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Alice-291
Madhatter-6735
Marchare-6736
Whiterabbit-17942
Chishirecat-6042
Tweedledee-9387
Tweedledum-17681
RedQueen-17518
Whiteknight-17612
King-2305
Knight-29391
Jabberwoky-7470
Tea-453
The White Queen's name--"Miriana"
Marianna-602
The Dodo bird...
Dodo-6336
Bandersnatch-9780
Mockturtle-8889

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Ooooh, let's not go with the Disney interpretation when evaluating asteroids. 😉

Now, Mary Ann was the name given erroneously to Alice by the White Rabbit when she grew too large in his house and was accused of being a serpent by the pigeon. He asks her to fetch him his gloves. Otherwise, there's no other mention of Mary Ann.

Also, don't forget LEWISCARROLL (6984). And DODO is in many ways Dodgson as he viewed himself (with the stutter, shy, retiring, etc).

TWEEDLEDEE and TWEEDLEDUM don't travel together, as I'd expect they would have. But I do believe one can't quite be taken into consideration without the other. They represent a sort of symmetry and, unsurprisingly, pretzel logic.

But it's a work in progress. I'm still researching ALICE at the moment, as I'm not entirely satisfied with my prior work. MADHATTER, however, is sound in terms of delineation. I feel quite confident there.

posted February 24, 2014 02:43 AM            

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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
I have this conjunct my Moon, and what you say here was def. a strong theme and a major source of pain in my childhood...Every last word of that description applies...

My Moon also squares Uranus...

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That would be its conjunction to your MOON.

MADHATTER makes things topsy-turvy in any regard. Up is down, left is right, etc. URANUS may indicate an even more powerful urge to break from the madness. To leave the tea-party and all of its abuse and mayhem behind.

MADHATTER, in my experience, does not denote a childhood of persecution resulting in disease, mental or emotional. It simply shows us that everything in regards to that planet or point is getting the Wonderland treatment. Nothing's making sense, because it's all backwards.

The Hatter was unintentionally abusive to Alice in his frank, blunt speech. I find that with MADHATTER, there is a kind of honesty, almost an inappropriate level, that can pervade. He doesn't pull punches or spare feelings for the sake of decorum, etiquette - nothing.

There's another dimension to MADHATTER I'm presently exploring. I think it may be in relation to our timekeeping. Our perception of it, in any case.

In that respect, where he falls may show us something in respect to our relationship to time.

For me, I have MADHATTER on the ASC (1H), 2°, sextile 3H SCO MERC. I have an uncanny internal clock. I've noticed, however, when something's hitting that point specifically, I can become unanchored. Very strange.

Someone I know has MADHATTER conjunct his MERC RX-URA.

Not only is he incredibly blunt, but he has a good grasp of time. He also is one of those guys whom 'computers hate'. In other words, he has terrible luck with digital machines, but is a whiz at innovating and engineering. For every computer that shorts or crashes on him, there's some other device he loves tinkering with and improving. I honestly think his MERC RX helps there.

He also decided Daylight Savings was a brilliant concept and couldn't believe his state wasn't down for it. So he used to (as a kid) decide his family was going to have DST anyway, so effectively created his own time zone. To hell with anyone who was measuring it differently. Who wouldn't want more hours in a day before bedtime? So went his logic. 😉

So, the research is unfolding.

But, presently, it acts like a focussed URANUS, causing things to go wonky, be backwards, confused, and flat-out zany and opposite of what we thought.

It also acts like a perpetual RX MERCURY. Except everything to behave like a long game of Chinese Whispers with him. Miscommunications, delays, confusion, mixups.

And, a bit like another dimension of SATURN or KRONOS, in that it sheds some light on our relationship to time.