posted May 18, 2014 03:28 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
you have to be more saturnian than that , but since I decided to study now, I'll pretend to heed your warning .

You and Ceri always have interesting discussions. I'll go back to read this thread when I finish this week's exams. Bye

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posted May 18, 2014 03:54 PM            

Me
Intercepted Aquarius (1st)/Leo (7th)
Duplicated Gemini (5th)/Sagittarius (11th)
Sun in Virgo intercepted ruler of 7th (in his duplicated)
Moon in Leo, 7th, intercepted
Venus in Virgo (in his duplicated)
ASC/DSC Capricorn/Cancer (in his interception)

Him
Intercepted Capricorn (4th)/Cancer (10th)
Duplicated Pisces (6th)/Virgo (12th)
Sun in Pisces (duplicated Sun)
Moon in Scorpio (2nd) intercepted ruler of 10th
Venus in Aquarius (in my intercepted)
Mars in Gemini (in my duplicated)
ASC/DSC Virgo/Pisces

I have ASC DSC intercepted, he has IC MC intercepted

Our intercepted Moons square and mutually connect our Suns

Already a nice complementarity, isn't it?

Then we have:

My intercepted ASC ruler, Uranus, is "supported" by a Grand Trine from his duplicated ASC ruler, Mercury and his intercepted IC ruler, Saturn

His intercepted Moon is "supported" by a Grand Trine from my duplicated ruler Jupiter and my ASC ruler, Saturn.

My intercepted DSC ruler, Moon squares his intercepted MC ruler, Moon

My intercepted Sun oppo. his duplicated Sun, on Virgo/Pisces axis

posted May 18, 2014 04:12 PM            

I wanted to say about your post that this thread is based on the study of synastries of beautiful love relationships (at least to my knowledge) that already worked, not the other way around, it is not a projection of how such a relationship should be, astrologically.

Also, there are many opinions on twinflames, one of them being that a twinflame relationship is supposed to be a painful one and they might be right. There are few accounts and testimonies of what actually IS a twinflame. But I personally disagree with this idea, because I believe that when we are to meet our twinflame in flesh and blood, after a possibly painful initial stage, the relationship should turn into a beautiful story of true love. Until then, we meet holograms of our twinflame, leading us, internally and externally, to him/her.

posted May 18, 2014 05:12 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

"What about the Mutable Cross? What do you think it would mean in love relationships?"

I have been thinking about this.
I think it would have to do with a friendship vibe, based on sharing thoughts, maybe even belief-systems and communication.

After all it includes the 3rd, 9th, 6th and 12th house, ruled by Mercury, Jupiter and Neptune.
being mutual it also likes to "spread", expand, including expanding each partner`s horizon, so whle the cardinal cross lits the spark and initiates, and the fixed cross sustains the attraction, the mutable cross might introduc the necessary change and evolution, on a mental/ spiritual level usually I think.

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Great explanation, Ceri, thanks!

especially this part, already a quote for me :

posted May 18, 2014 08:11 PM            

I think Spirit relates more to astral connections, but Union/Spirit and even Juno/Spirit would be a nice aspect. Aura too, it is related to astral connections.

Soulie was named after Soulie, most likely George Soulie, I don't think it has anything to do with Soul, if that's what you mean.

We're still debating on the nature of soulmates vs. twinflames, at least I am, I am not sure about the answer to your last question.

posted May 19, 2014 07:35 AM            

It is difficult enough to know if something is present as a real significator in synastry or just a coincidental byproduct anyway.

posted May 19, 2014 12:57 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by ail221:
I would add Valentine/pluto as a soulmate connection.

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posted May 20, 2014 05:52 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Gabby:
I have to say I think Soulie is important!
In synastry it plays actively with someone, I know that we have had a deep bond from the moment we met. Then to see it active in the same way as the other soul asteroids I feel it has to have some validity.

Soulie-Soulie
Karma-Karma
Aura-Aura
His (Dr) Soulie aries@9.15
My (Dr) Soulie aries@8.36
Comp (Dr) Soulie aries@8.55
My (Tr)DC aries@7.05
My (H) Destin libra@7.19
Comp(Dr)Karma libra@7.12
His (Dr)Union aries@7.46
Comp (Dr) Aura saggy@7.28
His (H) Alma libra@8.29
My (Dr)Psyche libra@7.23
His (Dr) Aura saggy@9.26
Comp (Dr) Valentine gem@9.13
Comp (Tr)NN aqua@9.13
His (H) Karma libra@9.58
Comp(H) Aura aries@10.57
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Spirit-Spirit
My (Tr)Spirit aqua@12.08
His (Tr) Spirit aqua@11.39
Comp(Tr) Spirit aqua@11.54
His (Dr)Union aqua@11.53
My (Tr)Pluto libra@11.05
His (Tr)Angel libra@12.01
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Karma-Karma
Psyche-Psyche
Unitas-Unitas
My (Dr) Karma aqua@14.05
Comp(Tr)Karma libra@15.43
My (Tr) Psyche gem@15.27
Comp (Dr) Psyche libra@15.34
His (H) Juno libra@14.16
Comp (Dr) Unitas leo@15.41
My (Dr) DC leo@15.21
My (Dr) AC aqua@15.21
Comp (Tr) Aura libra@16.36
Comp (H) Psyche leo@17.04
His (Tr)Hera leo@17.04
My (H) Unitas aqua@17.15
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Valentine-Valentine
Comp (H) Valentine aries@17.36
Comp (Tr) Valentine libra@18.20
My (Tr) Venus libra@19.02
Comp (Tr) Soulie aqua@18.06
My (H) Juno leo@18.14
Comp(Dr)Hera leo@20.34
My (Tr)Alma leo@21.57
My (Tr) Destin libra@21.34
My (Tr)Vertex aries@21.34
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Psyche-Psyche
His (H) Psyche libra@22.45
My (Dr) Psyche libra@23.44
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Spirit-Spirit
His (H)Spirit aqua@23.17
Comp (H) Spirit-aqua@24.28
My (H) Spirit aqua@26.40
Comp(H) Soulie aqua@23.17
His(H) Pholus aqua@23.44
Comp(Tr)Unitas saggy@24.54
Comp(Tr)Psyche leo@24.47
Comp(H) Hera gem@25.05
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Alma-Alma
Celestia-Celestia
His (Tr) Alma libra@26.44
My (Tr)Celestia aries@26.36
My (H) Alma cancer@27.22
His (Tr) Celestia cancer@28.37
Comp (Dr) Vertex cancer@27.22
His (Tr) Valentine cancer@26.53
My (Tr) Aura cancer@27.02
Comp (Dr) Juno scorp@26.02
Comp(Tr)Venus libra@25.
His (Tr) Karma libra @25.33
Comp(Dr)AC saggy@26.58
His (Tr) NN aries@26.45
Comp(Dr) Amor aries@26.53
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Amor-Amor
Karma-Karma
His(H) Amor pisces@28.17
My (H) Amor pisces@27.20
Comp(H) Amor pisces@27.52
His (D) Karma virgo@28.49
Comp(H) Karma virgo@28.51
His (H) Destin scorp@29.37
My (Tr) Soulie sag@0.20
My (H) Eros cap@27.20
My (Tr) Union scorp@29.30
His (H) Hera cancer@29.42
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Alma-Alma
His (Dr) Alma libra@0.00
My (Dr) Alma cap@0.13
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Aura-Aura
His(H) Aura cap@12.05
My (H) Aura cancer@9.50
My (Tr)Valentine cap@9.59
My (H) Pholus pisces@11.59
Comp(Tr)Destin scorp@12.38
My (Tr) Hera taurus@12.30
My (Tr) Juno virgo@12.30
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Hera-Hera
His (Dr) Hera cancer@20.21
My (Dr) Hera virgo@20.46
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Vertex-Vertex
His (Tr) Vertex cancer@21.47
My (Tr) Vertex aries@21.34
My (Tr) Destin libra@21.34
My (H) Valentine cap@21.02
My (Tr) NN scorp@21.43
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Amor-Amor
His (Tr) Amor pisces@6.44
My (Tr) Amor pisces@5.29
Comp (Tr) Amor pisces@6.06
His (Tr) Aura cap@6.09
My(Tr) Bless cap@6.36

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posted May 20, 2014 07:27 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
LeeLoo,

Please excuse this interruption - would you please take a look at my son's syn and comp chart. They want to marry - but I'm unsure of the long term indicators. I'll post in Personal readings.

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posted May 20, 2014 10:57 AM            

His Amor pisces@5.27
My Amor pisces@6.44
His Jupiter virgo@5.31
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His Kleopatra virgo@5.46
My Ceasar pisces@7.49
His Union pisces@8.36
My Pholus pisces@9.12
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His Aura cap@6.11
My Bless cap @6.23
My IC cap@7.58
His DNA cap@8.05(not sure if DNA used?)
My Eros cap@9.00
My Valentine cap@9.50
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My Osiris pisces@10.42
My Juno virgo@12.30
His Moon pisces@13.24
His Isis pisces@14.11
My Briede virgo@14.23
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My Moon virgo@18.32
His MC virgo@18.19
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His IC pisces@18.19
My Pallas pisces@17.36
My Vesta pisces@20.02
--
My Angel cap@16.21
His Vesta cap@16.56
My Lust cap@14.54
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His Unitas scorp@24.50
His Uranus scorp@24.58
My Gaea cancer@27.04
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My Aura cancer@27.02
His Valentine cancer@26.53
His Celestia cancer@28.37
My Devine scorp@27.14
His Devine scorp@27.31
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My Aphrodite scorp@29.24
My Union scorp@29.30
His Happalia scorp@29.53
His House scorp@29.22
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My Celestial aries@26.34
My Anteros aries@25.22
His NN aries @26.56
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My Saturn leo@2.50
His Lust leo@2.38
His Rhea leo@0.44
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His Destin saggy@3.41
My Compassion saggy@3.41
His Compassion gemini@4.27
My Sun saggy@4.28
My Merc saggy@3.32
His AC saggy@5.15
His Merc saggy@4.33
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My BM Lilith aries@3.00
His Saturn aries@5.38
My Karma libra@5.49
My DC aries@7.05
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My Adriane aqua@7.56
His Bucchas aqua@5.31
His Mars aqua@5.10
--
His Briede gemini@9.36
My Groom aqua@9.43
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His Spirit aqua@11.51
My Spirit aqua@12.07
--
His Angel libra@12.46
My Pluto libra@11.02
His Persephone aries@11
My Neptune saggy@11.15
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His Sun saggy@15.55
My Psyche gem@15.28
My Jupiter aries@15.15
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His Cupido libra@19.44(h40)
My Venus libra@19.07
My Destin libra@21.34
His Bless libra@20.37
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My Mars gemini@29.33
His Eros leo@29.38
His Juno libra@28.02
His Alma libra@26.44
His Cupido gemini@28.07(763)
--
His Agapenor cancer@0.22
My Agapenor scorp@0.59
--
My Mars gemini@29.33
His Venus scorp@1.20
His Psyche scorp@4.06
My Cupido scorp@2.07(763)
My Cupido scorp@0.23(h40)

Comp-
Pluto libra@1.55
McBride libra@1.20
Groom libra@2.18

Comp-
Lust libra@23.46
Cupido libra@25.04(763)
Venus libra@25.12
Jupiter gemini@25.17
Psyche leo@24.48
Unitas saggy@24.54

Pholus pisces@0.28
Part of Fortune scorp@0.18
Hera gemini@29.47

I know this isn't natal/natal but he has kind of a cool
conjunction with the Comp chart...
His Psyche scorp@4.06
Comp Eros scorp@4.20
My Cupido scorp@2.07(763)

He almost has a DW-
His Eros leo@29.38
Comp Psyche leo@24.48
His Cupido gemini@28.07(763)

I have something simular in Draco charts-
My Draco Psyche libra@23.44
Comp Eros gem@25.06

My Eros taurus@17.16
Comp Psyche libra@15.34

posted May 20, 2014 02:07 PM            

I met this guy and felt instantly bonded to him for no real reason, and it scared me! I ignored him for awhile was even rude telling him why I wouldn't date a guy like him! But really he was the first person I'd been attracted to because it felt like id known him forever, n it terrified me!
Eventually we went out...I didn't hold out for to long only about a month...n he's been so sweet ever since!

Out relationship brings out my deepest fears just because I'm afraid to feel so deeply for someone, but that doesn't scare him off. He's really great about talking and listening n wants me to see I can trust him. He's helping me trust again!
It does seem like he is the same as me in our core, deep down! He seems to have all the things I've always wanted but couldn't get, n he says I give him that to.

What's odd is this is true even in physical things.
I was telling him this vehicle that ever since I was a lil girl I'd wanted. I would never get it though for myself because it's impractical.
He pulled out his phone and showed me a picture of a vehicle I was talking about, I said yes that's it, it's even my favorite color!
Then he said that picture is of one of his vehicles that's in storage right now.
The more we learn about each other we are finding we own the exact same stuff, like furniture and clothes...funny we always show up to go out and we are wearing clothes that look like we coordinated to match each other.
We say the say things at the same time...
He's been seeing the same numbers daily for years, 1208, that is also his birthday.
He told me about seeing this number all the time because he noticed I text him everyday at exactly 12:08 am or pm, n he wondered if I realized it. Of course I had no idea!
His birthday numbers 1208=11
My birthday number 1127=11
The day we met 227=11
Anyway there's just a ton of synchronicity here!
I've wondered what exactly it means...
Even stranger is my ex that I thought was TF because of our aspects....
The new guy I'm seeing makes strange aspects with him n me, like they also have a soul connection to?

My Sun saggy@4.28/Merc saggy@3.32
Ex's Moon saggy@5.06/Mars gemini@3.43
New guys AC saggy@5.16/Merc saggy@4.23

Ex's Isis libra@5
My Karma libra@5
New guys Anteros libra@7
My AC libra@7
Ex's Anteros aries@7
My DC aries@7
New guys Saturn aries@6
Ex's Chiron aries@7

New guys NN aries@26
Ex's Karma is aries@25
My Chiron aries@24
New guy Karma libra@26
My Sun/Moon midpoint libra@26
Ex's Osiris libra@25
My Anteros aries@25-26
New guys Juno libra@28

Ex's NN pisces@12
New guy's Isis pisces@13-14
My Osiris pisces@11
My Juno virgo@12
My Dejanira virgo@15

Ex's Juno pisces@26
Ex's Dejanira pisces@25
New Guys Chiron pisces@25
New Guys Dejanira libra@18
My Venus libra@19

So I don't know why both of these guys make such strange aspects to me and each other, but I bet there is a good story behind it, esp for me to find both of them within 5 years after one broke my heart the other is picking up the pieces?? It's just odd!!

posted May 20, 2014 03:03 PM            

Would you post the actual charts? I know we'd discussed the possibility of your Twin Flame before, which seemed rather sound to me.

posted May 20, 2014 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Gabby,

Would you post the actual charts? I know we'd discussed the possibility of your Twin Flame before, which seemed rather sound to me.

This gentleman, however, sounds like more of the Guardian vibe. I've been continuing to review data and do research on the subject, too, since I first spoke of it. I should have enough to really tackle the subject soon.

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posted May 20, 2014 04:03 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Even stranger is my ex that I thought was TF because of our aspects....
The new guy I'm seeing makes strange aspects with him n me, like they also have a soul connection to?

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Nail on the head.

It almost seems as if my Guardian steps in to help me clear certain karma, and is present during major turning points with my Twin Flame.

They have:

ASC conjunct MOON (1°22)
DESTINN conjunct ALMA (1°27)
MOON conjunct SPIRIT (1°05)
SUN trine EROS (0°03)
ANGEL conjunct DESTINN (0°55)

posted May 20, 2014 05:34 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Gabby,

Would you post the actual charts? I know we'd discussed the possibility of your Twin Flame before, which seemed rather sound to me.

This gentleman, however, sounds like more of the Guardian vibe. I've been continuing to review data and do research on the subject, too, since I first spoke of it. I should have enough to really tackle the subject soon.

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Yes I can do that...I have to wait for my son to get back from visiting his dad so I can have a computer to use, but I'll get that done tomorrow.

Wow, I think you nailed it a guardian spirit!

My Bless cap@6.23
His Aura cap@6.11
His Champion cap@6.15

My Armor cap@9.51
My Valentine cap@9.50
His DNA cap@8.05

His Armor cancer@26.47
His Valentine cancer@26.53
My Aura cancer@27.02
My Gaea cancer@27.04
His Celestia cancer@28.37

My Champion aries@25.22
My Anteros aries@25.22
My Celestia aries@26.32
His NN aries@26.56

My Lancelot saggy@16.09
His Sun saggy@15.44
My DNA saggy@17.34

My Whitenight virgo@10.17
His Lancelot virgo@11.06

My Excalibur virgo@28.02
His Refugium virgo@28.16
His Excalibur cap@27.39

My Devine scorp@27.14
His Devine scorp@27.31
Comp Excalibur scorp@27.51
Comp Whiteknight scorp@26.41
Comp Bless scorp@28.30

Comp Refugium scorp@21.14
My NN scorp@21.44

Comp Armor libra@18.19
His Bless libra@20.37
My Venus libra@19