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LeeLoo2014
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posted May 18, 2014 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know...I know...many threads on this already. But I was thinking a synthesis thread is not that bad at this point, at least for me. I'm sharing the aspects I mostly look for at this point and please add other connections you find relevant. These are the ones I look for:

The topic is romantic soulmates, but many of these aspects can be found in friendship soulmates.


Romantic soulmates: getting together to live a great, true love.


The essential Love Asteroids (LA) I use for such analysis:

Union: self-explanatory

Amor: one's greatest love in this life

Cupido: being stricken by Cupid's arrow, striking your arrow into someone's heart, initial attraction, the act of infatuation

Valentine: falling in love, being in love, really in love

Eros/Psyche: the myth; plus: Eros: our deep erotic nature, often involving transformation and sometimes kundalini rising undertones; Psyche: the soul, the beauty of our soul, what touches one's soul deeply.

Lust: sexual attraction, general awakening to the joy of living

Lilith asteroid, BML (h13 and h21): passion over the edge, sometimes dark-toned relationships (forbidden, compulsive etc.)

Priapus (h22): compulsive desire to merge physically and totally, great physical attraction and desire

Juno: one's partner

Vesta: the sacred flame, passion, something very valuable to us, what we cherish, fidelity

Ceres: the nurturer, taking care of one another, cozy, warm and plentiful

Alma: the soul

Karma: self-explanatory

Pholus: a turning point

THE CONNECTIONS:

- Sun/Moon and Venus/Mars aspects between charts. Ideal: DW.

- planets on angles; LA on angles

- IC involved: planets on IC or aspecting IC ruler

- planets on Nodes, either/both of them; LA on nodes; angles on Nodes

- squares to Nodes by major planets such as: Sun, Moon, Saturn, angle axis

- VX/AVX axis activated by planets and LA

- Saturn connections to luminaries in synastry or composite

- overlays in 4th, 7th, 2nd/8th axis, 5th/11th axis and 12th and/or angular houses overlays (includes 1st and 10th); at least some of these houses activated in composite

- aspects and compatibility between love house rulers and angle rulers

a great analysis by Ceri here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/204587.html


- complementary (siamese/mirrors and complements/key and lock) aspects in natals and synastry

here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/227076.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/209893.html

- a variation of planets/LA and LA combinations in close conjunction or DW or involved in regular closed patterns such as the Grand Cross and the Grand Trine or Kite, with a special note to:

Eros/Psyche
Juno/Jupiter
Alma/Juno: alma "soul" juno "partner" = the soulmate
Juno/Psyche: soulmate
Venus/Psyche: soulful love
Union/Alma
Union/Psyche
Amor to angles, Sun, Moon, Venus, Neptune, Pluto and other LA
Valentine to angles, Sun, Moon, Venus, Neptune, Pluto and other LA
Ceres to angles, Sun, Moon, Venus, LA
Juno conjunctions/DW/patterns
Vesta conjunctions/DW/patterns

- Karma contacts: conjunctions/DW/patterns to any of the above.

- planets on house cusps in overlays


Please feel free to add connections or links.

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posted May 18, 2014 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


Personally I noticed the existence of some strong interrelation between DESC and IC in soulmates. Could be the IC-ruler conjunct DESC, or the DESC-ruler conjunct IC, or a strong close interaspect between the rulers of these.


Also the ASC and DESC being conjunct each other or through rulership. (so far the conjunction and opposition seems to be the most significant; actually Blashke called it the "marriage rule" and he only used conjunctions within 5 degrees).


I found a strothng, usually 4th harmonic aspect between 5th an 8th house (either through planets there or through rulership) in very passionate affairs of the heart. But those need backing up through the luminaries in aspect or cardinal angles.

In fact do not underestimate the power of the MC-IC-axis and rulers, they seem to be necessary for building a foundation.
The ASC-DESC might attract you to each other, but the MC-IC gives the relationship a direction and purpose and frankly especially when the MC-connections are clashing widely (including planets in 10th house and MC-rulr) , oftentimes relationships break apart because despite a strong attraction they just do not have compatible approaches to life.


in very deeply felt soulmate relationships I usually find an interrelation between 8th house and 7th, 2nd or sometimes 1st house, along with the 4th house.

8th-4th house connections are deep stuff, but sometimes scaringly deep, and not necessarily romantic.

8th - 5th houe stuff is very sexy, but again, can be scary, it just gets too hot sometimes, or too deep.


For twinflame however I would really expect some interrelation between

- 1st and 7th
- 2nd and 8th
- sometimes 7th and 8th


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posted May 18, 2014 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know you have given me a sheet up there, and I intend to use it!

Later.

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posted May 18, 2014 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Ceri, learning from the best, and I mean you

Personally I noticed the existence of some strong interrelation between DESC and IC in soulmates. Could be the IC-ruler conjunct DESC, or the DESC-ruler conjunct IC, or a strong close interaspect between the rulers of these.
Also the ASC and DESC being conjunct each other or through rulership. (so far the conjunction and opposition seems to be the most significant; actually Blashke called it the "marriage rule" and he only used conjunctions within 5 degrees).


Great observations, I wonder if maybe any of the angle rulers on angles or aspecting each other might actually work.

I think you cover those in your ruler connections thread, but just a reminder:

Joanne/Paul

the only IC/DSC connection: his Venus IC ruler conjunct her ASC
their ASC conjunct so Blashke's rule is fulfilled


Linda/Paul

IC ruler trine DSC ruler
nothing from him to her, but his DSC ruler conjunct her Sun, his IC ruler square her Sun


my parents


here I see a lot of connections; first of all, IC DSC in the same sign Taurus. no direct connection between ASC DSC.
IC ruler conjunct IC
DSC ruler square IC ruler
ASC ruler conjunct DSC
DSC ruler conjunct MC
MC ruler conjunct MC
IC ruler trine ASC ruler


and I won't go on because they are sooo many

definitely all angle rulers connected with each other create a strong unbreakable web in a synastry


in my own synastry (just striving to reach this ideal lol)

IC ruler square DSC ruler opposite IC ruler
DSC ruler trine DSC ruler
ASC ruler trine ASC co-ruler
etc. I won't go on, as it seems there are connections


I found a strothng, usually 4th harmonic aspect between 5th an 8th house (either through planets there or through rulership) in very passionate affairs of the heart. But those need backing up through the luminaries in aspect or cardinal angles.


Interesting. We do have those, squares sesquisquares, quincunxes too BTW between planets in 5th and 8th and between rulers. Interestingly, I'm an 8th houser covering the entire 8th house (with only Eros and Karma in 5th), he's a 5th houser covering the entire 5th house (with only Amor in 8th). My 8th house overlays his 12th and 1st house. His 5th house falls entirely in my 1st house. My 5th house falls on his MC. His 8th house falls on my IC.


in very deeply felt soulmate relationships I usually find an interrelation between 8th house and 7th, 2nd or sometimes 1st house, along with the 4th house.
8th-4th house connections are deep stuff, but sometimes scaringly deep, and not necessarily romantic.
8th - 5th houe stuff is very sexy, but again, can be scary, it just gets too hot sometimes, or too deep.
For twinflame however I would really expect some interrelation between
- 1st and 7th
- 2nd and 8th
- sometimes 7th and 8th

I think you're right, Ceri, we should consider the entire axis, 2nd/8th and 5th/11th.

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posted May 18, 2014 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"but his DSC ruler conjunct her Sun, his IC ruler square her Sun"
I definitely think that strong aspects of the angle rulers to the luminaries (or nodal axis) are a biggie.

Amazing links between your parents btw.
I haven`t checked in depth for mine but I remember that my Mum`s 7th and 8th house ruler (Saturn) is conjunct my Dad`s 8th house ruler (Mars) exact.
her 5th house ruler (Venus) is conjunct his 5th ouse ruler (Saturn) on his ASC exact.
his DESC-ruler (Neptune) conjuncts her MC-ruler (Neptune) - while of course Neptune-Neptune is generational, it becomes individual through rulership here.

"definitely all angle rulers connected with each other create a strong unbreakable web in a synastry"
Yes, I think so.

I found it interesting in the synastry with Patrick, it seems like my Jupiter becomes a focal point/ planet linking to his angle rulers.


"IC ruler square DSC ruler opposite IC ruler
DSC ruler trine DSC ruler
ASC ruler trine ASC co-ruler
etc. I won't go on, as it seems there are connections"
Looks like a very strong foundation, and IC-DESC is always so soulful, as if you have found your home.

"My 8th house overlays his 12th and 1st house. His 5th house falls entirely in my 1st house."
I find these overlays interesting.


" My 5th house falls on his MC. His 8th house falls on my IC."
what is the orb of the cusp-conjunctions?


"I think you're right, Ceri, we should consider the entire axis, 2nd/8th and 5th/11th."
Yes, I think so.

The fixed cross has more to do with expression of love and sexual feelings, while the cardinal seems to be more about identity

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posted May 18, 2014 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is our net of angle rulers - and I only used these not the planets in the houses.


my ASC-ruler: Jupiter
my DESC-ruler: Mercury
my IC-ruler: Mars
my MC-ruler: Venus

his ASC-ruler: Neptune (Jupiter) - Mars int.
his DESC-ruler: Mercury - Venus int.
his IC-ruler: Mercury
his MC-ruler: Jupiter

my ASC-ruler square his IC-ruler (1)
my ASC-ruler square his DESC-ruler (1)
my ASC-ruler semisquare his int. DESC-ruler (0)
my ASC-ruler opposite his int. ASC-ruler (0)
my ASC-ruler opposite his ASC-corule (1)
my ASC-ruler opposite his MC-ruler (1)

my DESC-ruler conjunct his ASC-ruler (4)


my IC-ruler conj. his DESC-rulr (4)
my IC-ruler conjunct his IC-ruler (4)
my IC-ruler square his MC-ruler (5)
my IC-ruler square his ASC-co-ruler ()

my MC-ruler trine his int. ASC-ruler (5)
my MC-ruler trine his ASC co-ruler (4)
my MC-ruler trine his MC-ruler (4)


and angle rulers to angles themselves:
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my ASC-ruler quintile his MC exact
my DESC-ruler square his ASC-DESC exact
my DESC-ruler conjunct his MC (3)


his ASC-co-ruler square my ASC-DESC (3)
his int ASC-ruler square my ASC-DESC (4)
his DESC-ruler conjunct my ASC (2)
his DESC-ruler sextile my MC (4)
his DESC-ruler trine my IC (4)

his IC-ruler conjunct my ASC (2)
his IC-ruler sextile my MC (4)
his IC-ruler trine my IC (4)

his MC-ruler square my ASC-DESC (4)


Whatever that means, it surely looks *dynamic*

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posted May 18, 2014 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The fixed cross has more to do with expression of love and sexual feelings, while the cardinal seems to be more about identity

Interesting thought.

Your parents are strongly connected through angle and love house rulers too. My parents have many planets/asteroids on each other's angles, plus NN opposite NN, and NN conjunct DSC by 1 deg.

I think this is a very interesting idea about the planet in one's chart becoming a focal planet connecting the other's angles/love houses, that planet's Persona must be very attractive to the other.


What I meant about our overlay is that my IC falls in his 8th house and his MC in my 5th. I don't find much about angle overlays in houses, such as your house where someone's ASC DSC MC IC falls and viceversa, but I think they are important. For example, in my synastry my ASC/DSC falls in the middle of his interception and I think this is important. Also his full 5th house in Aquarius covers my entire 1st house interception.

I'll post later some Love Asteroid connections to angles and planets in famous love charts.

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posted May 18, 2014 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here is the angle-ruler-angle-web in our synastry. As you can see it involves ALL angle-ruler, none is unaspected in synastry, and most are pretty closely related.


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posted May 18, 2014 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"dynamic"...lol more like inescapable

especially IC conjunct IC (rulers) on ASC AND NN/SN, and ASC conjunct DSC (rulers) with Sun and Moon. wow...strong connections! I think the fact that ASC/NN is on one conjunction and Sun and Moon on the other, makes these connections particularly strong.

Love his Venus midpointing there and opposite Juno.

What about the Mutable Cross? What do you think it would mean in love relationships?

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"our parents are strongly connected through angle and love house rulers too. My parents have many planets/asteroids on each other's angles, plus NN opposite NN, and NN conjunct DSC by 1 deg."
Wow!
Very strong.

my parents have a luminary-T-square of my Mum`s Sun oppospite my Dad`s Moon and squaring his Sun.

her Venus-Mars-conjunction joins his SAturn on his ASC, and trines his ASC-ruler Mercury exact. I think her Juno is conjunct his IC, too, but might misremember that.

her Jupiter-Saturn-opposition overlays his nodal axis with Mars.

Her Jupiter conjuncts his NN.
her Saturn conjunct his Mars and SN (and my Pluto being there as well, 9 Libra, all of them. lol)

"I think this is a very interesting idea about the planet in one's chart becoming a focal planet connecting the other's angles/love houses, that planet's Persona must be very attractive to the other."
I certainly hope so. lol
Well it is my ASC-ruler, too, so quite strongly tied to my personal identity (also disposits all my Sag-planets).

I certainly got his attention, and maybe that is all that really means, it is quite difficult to ignore someone who conjucnts or squares your angles.

"but I think they are important. For example, in my synastry my ASC/DSC falls in the middle of his interception and I think this is important. Also his full 5th house in Aquarius covers my entire 1st house interception."
Yes, I think so, too. You might even see the not so obvious parts of each other.


In our case wait let`s see.

his ASC overlays my intercepted 3rd house, which must be attractive for someone like me with Gemini-DESC (I do not feel like the Pisces in my 3rd house is really all that hidden, but maybe it is for the outer world, while i am very conscious of it?)

his MC overlays my 1st, and his IC my 7th house of course.


from his side:

my ASC falls at th end of his 8th house, I still would count it there, actually I would consider it relating to both, his 8th and his 9th house, because of the bridging planets.

my MC falls into his 7th house, which is also intercepted.

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posted May 18, 2014 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
""dynamic"...lol more like inescapable "
LOL


"especially IC conjunct IC (rulers) on ASC AND NN/SN, and ASC conjunct DSC (rulers) with Sun and Moon. wow...strong connections!"
Yes, I thought so, it looks like there is a purpose and reason for all of that. Of course he just broke my heart, but the dynamic is still there, and I am partly glad that I am not just simply delusional, but that there is an astrological explanation for this pull on my side.

"Love his Venus midpointing there and opposite Juno."
I find this interesting. It seems like this Venus-Juno-opposition is midpointing pretty much all the important configurations. It is even midpointing and relating to my 9th harmonic pattern involving my Venus, Moon making a 9th harmonic triangle with his juno, and his Venus-Juno-opposition midpointing it, an arrow through the heart of my Moon/Venus.

His Venus is awfully pronounced there for a seemingly unaspected Venus in synastry.

In fact it is even very pronounced through the Draco chart, too.

his Draco Sun-Moon-MC falling onto his natal Juno.
his Draco IC falling onto his natal Venus.

my Draco IC falling onto his natal Juno.
my Draco Pluto falling onto his natal Venus.


and his Draco Venus-Juno opposition spanning from 24 Leo to 26 Aquarius, falling onto the opposition of our natal BML (his on 28 Leo, mine on 28 Aquarius) highlighting my Lilith and his Priapus on his SN.

And also pointing at our close to exact conjunction of my Psyche to his Pallas-Psyche on 24 and 25 Aquarius, with composite Vertex on 24 or 25 Leo and Davison ISis-Osiris-conjunction on 25 Leo.

BTW we met when Transit Neptune was on 24 Aquarius and Tr NN-Chiron on 21 Aquarius opposing composite Saturn on 21 Leo.

Oh I forgot my Draco Uranus is on 21 Aquarius with Draco Union on 19 Aquarius, and my Draco Uranus is certainly still in orb for opposing hisDraco Venus. LOL


"What about the Mutable Cross? What do you think it would mean in love relationships?"

I have been thinking about this.
I think it would have to do with a friendship vibe, based on sharing thoughts, maybe even belief-systems and communication.

After all it includes the 3rd, 9th, 6th and 12th house, ruled by Mercury, Jupiter and Neptune.
being mutual it also likes to "spread", expand, including expanding each partner`s horizon, so whle the cardinal cross lits the spark and initiates, and the fixed cross sustains the attraction, the mutable cross might introduc the necessary change and evolution, on a mental/ spiritual level usually I think.

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posted May 18, 2014 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait...his ASC falls in your interception, while your MC falls in his! That's major, I think. I call this "interception triggering". To me, interception is a major lesson in one's chart, it's a part of our true, inner nature that we need to bring to light. Often, the environment didn't encourage it in us, and it grows and it grows inside us, like a hidden treasure, but it's always meant to come to light when it is "ripe". Intercepted people almost always have a major crisis or transformation in life when they bring their interception into the world, in full bloom. When someone else activates your interception, with planets and especially with proactive angles like ASC and MC, tha person might have an important impact on your life: it doesn't necessarily mean that he triggers your interception for you, but his/her coming into your life coincides with your interception triggering by several factors/circumstances or simply the arrival of the right time, also it means this person is ready to accept you as you are, the new you, the full you. He will encourage you to bring this part of yourself to life, to become a full, accomplished individual.

In fact, I wouldn't even consider a soulmate for someone with interception without having something there to trigger it, one way or the other.

Lovely DW for you! especially since they are both proactive angles, it's the same with us, but from his side with planets, and I'm definitely feeling my hidden Aquarius/Leo with him. It's as if he likes this part of me more than anything, and he encourages this part of me every time! While I love his hidden, in need of coming out Capricorn/Cancer side, which is my ASC/DSC, the "mask" for my interception, what I already master very well.

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posted May 18, 2014 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you have given me a lot to think about.

I can see the logic behind it, definitely. However, Jupiter is intercepted in Pisces in 3rd house, and it never was really a very hidden planet for me. Jupitr in Pisces is quite obvious in my prsonality, the ruler Neptune sits on the ASC, too. and Jupiter rules my whole chart.

As for my childhood, well my parents encouraged intellectual things quite much, reading, theatre and the likes. however where I see it being spot on is, that they could not really do much with my tendency to go overboard with the fantasies, with my spiritual tendencies, also my escapist tendencies, so it is partly right, in my case.
But then again I might be a special case with the mutual reception of Jupier and Neptune, and Neptune being ON the ASC and becoming a very strong part of my personality.


In his case it is interesting, cause he has Libra intercepted in 7th house (and I have my seondary 7th house intercepted, interesting), and its ruler Venus becomes so focal through the midpoint-axis to Juno.

Actually the ruler of his intercepted 7th house is exactly semisquare the ruler of my intercepted secondary 7th house, and semisquares my intercetped ASC-ruler exact as well.

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posted May 18, 2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
found that on interception
http://scorpioland.org/sonny-detonates-cher-the-pent-up-energy-of-intercept ed-houses-trapped-signs/


as the author talked about duplicated signs.

I have 5th and 6th cusp in Taurus, VEnus-ruled (additionally Venus rules MC)

and 11th and 12th cusp in Scorpio, Pluto-ruled
(as if I needed any More VEnus-Pluto-symbolism).


For Him it is:

3rd and 4th in Gemini, Mercury-ruled
9th and 10th in Sagittarius, Jupiter-ruled

interestingly tehy are in harmonic synastric aspect.

my Pluto sextiles his Mercury exact
my Venus trines his Jupiter by 4 degrees

Also I just notice, while Venus is ruling his intercepted 7th house, it is ruling my duplicated ones (though his s LIbra, mine is Taurus).
He also has 8th house ruler, Pluto, intercepted in 7th house.
Pluto rules my duplicated 11th and 12th house (and the ruler of his intercepted 7th house is in his 11th house. lol)


I have ASC-ruler Jupiter intercepted in 3rd house;
Jupiter rules his duplicated 9th and 10th house.


So for both of us the intercepted planet (Jupiter and Pluto) is actually ruler of duplicated houses for the other one. Interesting, isn`t it?

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posted May 18, 2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think a single thread is too much for this topic. I've tried, honestly, to reroute some of the discussion to my website, but the truth is the entire topic is a bit complicated.

Unlike more academic studies, this one hits hard. Matters of the heart are never simple, but the circumstances of Twin Flames ... that's something else altogether.

There's a lot of pain involved.

And cookbook astrology just doesn't work here. I believe that was my mistake. We can't just apply several aspects and many conditions, and determine the connexions between people. At least, we can't YET.

I think there's too much mysticism and romanticism wrapped up in the concept of Twin Flames. It's compounded by faerie-tales and rom-coms.

We're sold this idea of happily ever after - and it's JUST not that simple. Hopefully, we're coming to realise that an evolved, enlightened and mature Soulmate trumps a wounded, antagonistic and metaphysically blind Twin Flame anyway.

Troubling, isn't it?

If we're to have faith, then we have to adhere to certain principles. If they turn out to be false, or we cannot follow them, what's left?

I'm fascinated by the concept itself, and the possibility of helping others find fulfilling love, companionship, and happiness.

As a Twin Flame myself, I have to say the whole thing is overrated. Perhaps, we're here to get on the fast-track to a spiritual awakening.

If that doesn't happen?

THEN what?

This presumption that all we really have to do is put forth effort, and it'll all come together is ... a bit naive.

I think the assumption that there's some sort of guarantee in all of this allows us to complicate things in our minds, and our lives. We build things up to such a degree that other things pale in comparison.

I've been taking issue with this for awhile now. I just think it's something to keep in mind.

Let's not oversimplify. It's a LOT more complicated.

Just my thoughts.

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posted May 18, 2014 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually I was more interested in the notion of romantic soulmates here, or the possibility of relationship.

And yes I think there actually are key-ingredients, though to what these exactly are, who knows?


Well, one belief I strongly have that interaspects really relate to chemistry more than anything else, something to take notice of another person, make you pay attention.

As to compatibility that seems to be more based on natal charts comparision.

Of course these two areas interlock.


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Also Indigo,

you seem so sad and exhausted.
Or maybe I am projecting on you because I feel like the recent weeks have certainly taken their toll on me.
But I just wanted to say the sun will always rise again, and if you reached the bottom (like I feel I have), there is just one way left, up.

We are going to wrap it up and then head to a new adventure, no matter if with the old "cast" or new members, things cannot and must not and will not stay the same.
We are in the phase of a birthing process, and being born hurts and is very exhausting.
But it`s going to be SO worth it, I can feel it in my core.


Or maybe you are totally alright with everything, and I just projected my feelings onto you, but I felt i wanted to say it.

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posted May 18, 2014 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great thread but it belongs in Asteroid Astrology

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posted May 18, 2014 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm sorry, Lala, but I don't see why this thread would belong in Asteroid Astrology, it's a general thread on relationship astrology! It is meant to explore all major soulmate connections in a synastry/composite, asteroids included.

I defined the asteroids I use at the beginning of the thread because not all people know about their meaning and because I have some personal connotations to them.

It really restricts the purpose of this thread to make it an asteroids thread.

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posted May 18, 2014 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See, Randall?

We TOTALLY need a synastry-star-haven

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posted May 18, 2014 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So for both of us the intercepted planet (Jupiter and Pluto) is actually ruler of duplicated houses for the other one. Interesting, isn`t it?

This reinforces the interception triggering IMO

Following your example, I've just realized how important it is to check the connections with the intercepted rulers (co-rulers) and intercepted planets. They should play a big role in a synastry involving interception. And those of the duplicated houses, obviously. I will look at my own examples a bit later.

Great article! thanks for the link. The gal there has my own interception, both by sign and house

But what I really liked there were the examples. What better examples for an interception brought to light than Oprah, Cher and Ayn Rand! Oprah becoming a real Capricorn/Cancer for the world, and her evolution to that. It speaks about a lifetime progression towards interception integration, with possibly major critical and fateful moments. And Cher activating all her Scorpio energy, actually after freeing herself from Sonny. And Ayn Rand becoming a philosopher by the expansion of her interception over the years.

About your own interception, Ceri... I was thinking, yes, with your mutual reception and Jupiter as chart ruler, you probably can't say your intercepted planet has been inactive all this time, for Patrick to activate it. But then there must be something else related to Pisces specifically or that house that he could trigger in you (or anyone else "working" on your interception). And I look there and I see...Juno! What do you think?

BTW, I love how his Venus is subtly active and underlying your other charts, and those midpoints with Venus, pointing to unexpected love, like an intercepted Venus, since we are on interceptions.

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posted May 18, 2014 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
See, Randall?

We TOTALLY need a synastry-star-haven


TOTALLY!!!

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posted May 18, 2014 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How can I study when you keep putting up these interesting threads ^^. I read through it all, and I have a question: do a soulmate relationship has to have all those aspects you mentioned?

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posted May 18, 2014 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
How can I study when you keep putting up these interesting threads ^^. I read through it all, and I have a question: do a soulmate relationship has to have all those aspects you mentioned?


Hi, Tulipe

A little bit of each would be nice

But first....study! lol

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posted May 18, 2014 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you have to be more saturnian than that , but since I decided to study now, I'll pretend to heed your warning .

You and Ceri always have interesting discussions. I'll go back to read this thread when I finish this week's exams. Bye

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