posted July 09, 2014 01:44 PM            

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_notable_asteroids

As you can see Hygeia is 3 times bigger than Juno. Meaning 3 times as powerful probably. Juno was made popular and added into astrology in a hurry when it was first discovered because it was the 3rd asteroid discovered. But really Hygeia probably has more importance in our charts. But what kind of effect does Hygeia have? Who knows. You can't just figure out a space objects effect from its name. You have to examine many people. And have many people examine themselves and be able to tell what Hygeia is in them and then explain it in words. People who can do this best? Probably people who have an ascendent progressing to conjunct Hygeia from their natal chart

Ex. Born with Asc at 10 Degrees Pisces. Hygiea is at 13 Degrees Aries. When the person's ascendent progresses 33 degrees and directly conjuncts Hygiea they might be able to tell strongly what the feeling of Hygeia is. And this is the best way to progress a chart in my opinion. Not the day for a year progression but to simply progress your ascendent from your natal chart and all the planets with it.

So yeah. In fact. My ascendent is currently at 6 degrees Pisces. I have Hygeia at 29 degrees Pisces. so one day, in maybe 15 years (give or take) my asc will conjunct Hygeia and I may be able to describe its effect.

ALSO: when your asc makes a strong aspect to another planet, (like being in the EXACT same degree as a planet, doesnt need to be the same sign, like neptune in Cap at 15.23 degrees Sextile Asc in Pisces at 15.23 degrees) you will feel the effects of neptune very strongly, I know I did when it happened to me, that was quite the experience. Im very concious of astrological effects in myself though, so most people wouldn't notice. But when neptune was sextiling my ascendent exactly my reality became very vivid, i had shocking and very real realizations about reality. I thought about crazy stuff like aliens. I looked at objects and thought how weird they were. And none of it was like an illusion. Neptune wasn't feeding me lies. It was just making my perspective of reality really vivid and crazy-like strange and intense, but still rational.

posted July 09, 2014 09:57 PM            

And even if we payed attention to a star that we couldn't see, it wouldnt still be effecting us psychically. Astrology effects us metaphysically, or physically, I believe. But believe what you want.

posted July 10, 2014 08:24 AM            

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<HYGEIA IN ARIES>

Anything “Aries” is always “busy” wasting no time so this combination tends to have little patience for illness. It takes a good deal for them to actually be overcome by illness and when this happens it should be taken as a sign that they need to slow down. Generally, they maintain a healthy lifestyle and enjoy fitness programs that are challenging.

Hygeian Hall of Fame: Highly respected reincarnationist and past life therapist Joan Grant (a Sun Aries) had natal Hygeia in Aries (health pioneer) in the 10th house (career and public recognition). It served as the apex or focal point of the T-square (plenty of action) with Jupiter in Cancer in the 1st house (benevolent spiritual projection) opposed (awareness of responsibility) Mars in Capricorn in the 7th House (working with the public as an authority on the subject). Joan worked closely with her husband psychiatrist Dr. Denys Kelsey with his past life progression work from patients suffering from unexplained mental trauma. Joan’s innate ability to tap into the past life of another using her ‘far memory’ technique saved many from having to ‘relive trauma’ which is often associated with regression techniques. Her ‘delivery of analysis’ after rooting out the issue was swift and usually so was the patient’s recovery.

Read more about Joan Grant in Essayettes and in the 9th GATE under Psychic Receptivity.

<HYGEIA IN TAURUS>

Health is tied to comfort and satisfaction. Diet is sometimes an issue due to a desire to over-indulge in food or drink or other bad habits. Taurus is the sign of resilience and strength and a positively aspected Hygeia in this sign generally shows good immunity and the capacity to bounce back from illness. As Taurus is also a very stubborn and obstinate sign, often the individual’s attitude causes illness if they refuse to move forward in life when they should.

Hygeian Hall of Fame: Recent studies have linked a harshly aspected Hygeia to pedophilia and sexual abuse. Actor Woody Allen whose one time girlfriend, actress Mia Farrow, accused him of sexually abusing her adopted daughter Soon–Yi has a poorly and harshly aspected Hygeia in Taurus. Hygeia is conjunct Uranus in Taurus (interest in sexual experimentation), square Mars and Pluto (capacity for violence and control), sesquiquadrate Neptune (problems balancing fantasy with reality) and semi-square Chiron (personal unresolved wounds). Although the judge in the case concluded that sex abuse charges were inconclusive (mainly because Farrow could not prove the girl was underage at the time of the alleged incident) he did call Allen’s conduct with Soon-Yi, “grossly inappropriate.”

<HYGEIA IN GEMINI>

This combination often describes one who is somewhat of a self made health guru who is very into physical fitness and/or sports. They are often walking-talking fitness encyclopedias who are constantly gathering knowledge on health issues. As Gemini is a mental sign, there is no problem understanding the link between mind and body… as a matter of fact the mind of this Hygeian will never let the body get lazy!

Hygeian Hall of Fame: Renowned actress Angelina Jolie Pitt maintains a stringent exercise and health program making it possible for her to do much of her own movie stunt work. Her natal Hygeia in Gemini (flexibility) is conjunct her natal Sun in Gemini (vitalized movement). This pair is trined by Pluto in Libra (balance of transformation) and opposed by Neptune in Sagittarius (awareness of the benefits of pushing boundaries). On a personal level, Angelina feels it is important that she set a good physically healthy example for her own children and for other young people. That deserves a huge round of applause!

<HYGEIA IN CANCER>

Those with Hygeia in Cancer don’t just worry about their own health … they worry about the health of family, friends and even the neighbor’s dog! This is a very sensitive and caring placement for Hygeia and health can be closely linked to the home environment. Any disruptions in the home or in the work environment may spark bouts of ill health both physical and mental. Hygeia in this sign has an uncanny knack for understanding proper dietary requirements and they often enjoy cooking and inventing healthy snacks for others.

Hygeian Hall of Fame: Health guru Richard Simmons and famous fitness icon Jack LaLanne have Hygeia in Cancer. Richard’s Hygeia is conjunct his Sun both in Cancer (health awareness tied to caring and the desire to bring light to others - he tends to treat his clients like family!) and Jack’s is in an out of sign conjunction with Neptune (Jack had a popular exercise, fitness and health [Hygeia] TV program [Neptune] in the 1950’s. He can still be seen today promoting the Jack LaLanne Juicer on TV showing folks how to maintain a healthy body by “juicing” with fresh fruits and vegetables [Cancer loves to cook!]).

<HYGEIA IN LEO>

The individual with Hygeia in Leo literally takes pride in his/her health and often finds inventive and fun ways to maintain health. They might even have hobbies and pastimes linked with health. When they don’t “feel well” they believe they cannot “project well” so personal accomplishment becomes marred or disrupted and Leo certainly will not tolerate anything less than majestic.

Hygeian Hall of Fame: Comedian and actor Freddie Prinze Sr. was at the top of his profession when depression took over and he committed suicide by a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head at 3:30 am on the morning of January 28, 1977 in Los Angeles. Transit Saturn (death of the body) and progressed Mars (gunshot) sat at the midpoint of his natal Hygeia/Midheaven all in Leo and all were opposed by the transiting Sun (threat to vitality, change of worldly status). Progressed Hygeia conjoined his natal Pluto (need to transform the death of the mind by depression) while transiting Neptune (suicide) opposed both. The strongly afflicted Leo theme represents death of the EGO.

<HYGEIA IN VIRGO>

More than any other sign health is highlighted when Hygeia is in Virgo. This sign has an innate understanding of the links between mind, body and spirit and generally maintains a healthy daily regimen of good diet, exercise and above all hygiene (Virgo understands the need for personal cleanliness and a clean environment)! When they ignore their own self imposed health program they tend to feel very guilty and fully understand that there will be a price to pay. This is a sign that needs to be organized so when life becomes disorganized, health suffers.

Hygeian Hall of Fame: Still considered “The World’s Greatest Magician,” Harry Houdini died of fatal peritonitis from a ruptured appendix on October 31, 1926 at 1:26 pm in Montreal, Canada. At that time transiting Hygeia was in the sign of Virgo conjunct his natal Jupiter also in Virgo (Virgo rules both the appendix and peritonitis). Hygeia and Jupiter were being opposed by transiting Uranus in Pisces (unexpected happening requiring hospitalization). Houdini ignored the searing pain above his right hip, a sign of liver disease, until his appendix ruptured, causing fatal peritonitis. There is speculation that Houdini may have actually had liver disease that instigated the rupture. His natal Jupiter at 26°Virgo rules the iliac nerve and transiting Hygeia at 22°Virgo rules the capsule and ligament of the liver.

<HYGEIA IN LIBRA>

Imbalance is the key to ill health for this sign. Hygeia in Libra often connects good health and proper hygiene with beauty. This combination has been known to harp on others who they feel are unhealthy, dirty or disheveled. They are always more than willing to share their very good insight regarding health maintenance with others and tend to get upset if their advice should fall on deaf ears!

Hygeian Hall of Fame: The Great Seer Edgar Cayce had Hygeia in the sign of Libra in the 12th House. He spent most of his adult lifetime doling out unbelievably correct medical advice (Hygeia) that he received through meditative trances (12th House) to the public with wonderful diplomacy and caring (Libra).

Read more about Edgar Cayce in the 9th GATE under Psychic Receptivity.

<HYGEIA IN SCORPIO>

The sign of Scorpio is never satisfied until “all the rocks have been overturned” and “connections of truth” have been discerned. Natal Hygeia in Scorpio indicates a never–ending interest in the links that connect the psyche with physical health. Scorpionic energy is very “cyclic” so with reference to Hygeia the individual will undergo cycles of ill and good health during the lifetime particularly in the area of sexual health and procreation.

Hygeian Hall of Fame: Marc Edmund Jones PhD, the Dean of American Astrology, had Hygeia in Scorpio in the 12th House. Jones was an astrological innovator whose workwas dedicated to finding competent rather than superficial answers to the problems of life. Jones brought a good deal of in-depth psychology (Scorpio/12th) to astrology through his masterful research and study in order to ease and balance the human condition through a healthy understanding (Hygeia) of personal motivation.

Read more about Dr. Marc Edmund Jones in the 9th GATE under Psychic Receptivity.

<HYGEIA IN SAGITTARIUS>

Individuals with Hygeia in Sagittarius tend to have a global view of health and like to see how health fits into the big picture. Those who become educated in the medical or health fields often teach or lecture. They are often highly visionary and must be careful to keep their health wisdom grounded in truth and practicality.

Hygeian Hall of Fame: Dr. Phil (McGraw), the media’s psychological health guru has Hygeia in Sagittarius in a stellium with Chiron and the asteroid Ceres (a total visionary healing package!). His Hygeian energy is very busy being influenced by a square from the Sun (EGO/Health needs in action but a tendency to get carried away at times as evidenced by his 2003 attempt to sell weight loss products that ended in a lawsuit), trines from Venus and Pluto (the power to transform through love and social interaction), a semi-sextile from Mars (pioneering action) and a sextile from Neptune (supportive service and the media). The popular TV show The Doctors which doles out daily health and medical advice was created by Dr. Phil.

<HYGEIA IN CAPRICORN>

Those with natal Hygeia in Capricorn often seek wisdom about personal and global health issues. They are willing to put long hard hours into serious study and research until solutions are found. This position is often seen in the charts of doctors, health officials or health authorities.

Hygeian Hall of Fame: The first successful human to human heart transplant performed by Dr. Christiaan Barnard took place on December 3, 1967 in Cape Town, South Africa. On that day transiting Hygeia was in the sign of Capricorn (health wisdom based upon experience) and by aspect was in an out of sign conjunction with Mars in Aquarius (high tech surgery). It was being trined (ease of action) by transiting Uranus and Pluto conjoined in Virgo (transformative and innovative health processes) and sextiled (opportunity) by Neptune in Scorpio (ultimate healing from the deepest levels). Hygeia squared the transiting Nodal Axis that day indicating this procedure action affected mass destiny.

<HYGEIA IN AQUARIUS>

Those with Hygeia in Aquarius tend to be concerned about the health of the planet and are interested in modern advances in health, medicine and ecology. On a personal level they enjoy keeping fit with friends and tend to join fitness and/or sports groups.

Hygeian Hall of Fame: One of history’s greatest benefactors of humanity, Louis Pasteur had natal Hygeia in Aquarius. He solved the mysteries of rabies, anthrax, chicken cholera, and silkworm diseases, and contributed to the development of the first vaccines (Hygeia is a ruler of vaccines along with Neptune). Pasteur also coined the word virus which means poison. He is best known for ‘Pasteurization’, which prevents milk and wine from going sour.Pasteur’s Hygeia is conjoined with the North Node indicating that his research and finding would be tied to his destiny and to the destiny of the world-at-large. Other aspects include semi-sextiles to the Sun and Venus (notoriety for his work), a trine to Jupiter (scientific advances), a square to Saturn (sound findings through dedicated work) and a sextile to Pluto (opportunities through research and experimentation).

<HYGEIA IN PISCES>

The spiritual health and physical maintenance of the world is most important to the person with this placement of natal Hygeia. These individuals can see the links between physical and spiritual health and are more than willing to put themselves into service so they can to share these insights with everyone. A well aspected Hygeia Pisces can even produce a global leader whose aim is preservation of natural resources. On the personal level, Hygeia in Pisces can indicate that there will bouts of illness in the hospital during the lifetime.

Hygeian Hall of Fame: According to famous Forest Conservationist Julia Butterfly-Hill, "The common thread humanity shares is that we are all children of the Earth. We all need clean air and water for our survival. We are all planetary citizens, and the ancient trees are living, breathing elders that remind us to respect and honor that which we cannot replace." This sentiment is well described by her natal Hygeia in Pisces conjunct Mercury and sextiled by the Moon and semi-sextiled by Chiron (public servant and spokesperson reminding the children of Earth that they alone are responsible for maintaining clean conditions so the future can be preserved. By doing less we only hurt ourselves. Less hygiene means more filth and dis-ease).
HYGEIA IN THE NATAL HOUSES

HYGEIA IN THE 1ST HOUSE

Individuals with Hygeia in the 1st House are always cognizant of how they are feeling health wise on a daily level. They always seek out new ways to improve their health and general well being. Some with Hygeia in the 1st House suffer from childhood illness and these experiences teach them the importance of ‘body balance’ while others live in an early environment where being ‘seen’ as healthy was promoted. Those with a 1st House Hygeia should avoid a rash use of physical energy which could lead to depletion. They must learn moderation in order to insure good health.

Hygeian locations associated with the 1st House: Gyms, public health centers, health product manufacturers.

Possible health issues associated with the 1st House: complexion and diseases of the face, physical constitution, cravings, eye problems, halitosis (bad breath), and skull.

HYGEIA IN THE 2ND HOUSE

The general energetic nature of the 2nd House constitutes a desire to prove self worth and when Hygeia is found here self esteem is often linked to health. When the individual becomes obsessed with proving or marketing the Self a great deal of strain is placed on the body physically and mentally. Poor eating habits ranging from neglect of eating to gluttony are common. There is also some propensity to consume food high in carbohydrates and sugars. Those with Hygeia in the 2nd House need to take time out for relaxation, rest and above all just be themselves. If so inclined, some with this placement will earn money as a healer.

Hygeian locations associated with the 2nd House: Financial institutions that offer health savings accounts, public health gardens and places of relaxation.

Possible health issues associated with the 2nd House: ears, general metabolism, neck and glands, throat and vocal chords.

HYGEIA IN THE 3RD HOUSE

Those with Hygeia in the 3rd House can experience adverse bodily reactions to environmental stress. Their nerves are most likely to suffer from mundane pressures so mental health is featured in their lives. They have a great interest in the links between the mind and body and like to study health issues.

Hygeian locations associated with the 3rd House: meditative atmospheres, bookstores or libraries specializing in literature (books and magazines) about general health, wellness and diet, health distribution centers, health education centers, health publishers, health organizations that offer body prosthetics.

Possible health issues associated with the 3rd House: arms, asthma, collarbones, fingers and fingernails, dexterity and movement, hands (fractures and ailments), nervous system and reflexes, perception problems, shoulders (fractures and ailments), vocal organ disorders.

HYGEIA IN THE 4TH HOUSE

Early conditioning can affect how 4th House Hygeians maintain their health when they become adults. Negative childhood conditioning can cause repressed issues that can manifest as chronic health problems in middle life (ages 42-49). As adults, health is often linked to domestic conditions and disruptions on the home front can trigger illness. Often those with this placement become overly concerned for the health of their family members.

Hygeian locations associated with the 4th House: Environmental clean-up and maintenance organizations, home sanitation companies, areas of organic crop agriculture (testing institutes and organic crop farms), landscaped self rehabilitation gardens or orchards, female health organizations that offer prosthetics (i.e. breast prosthetics).

Possible health issues associated with the 4th House: chest and breasts, disorders of digestive organs and juices, physical strength, stomach disorders, afflictions of the uterus and womb.

HYGEIA IN THE 5TH HOUSE

Self acceptance is the key to good health for those with Hygeia in the 5th House. The 5th House is traditionally the House of Love and represents the need to feel love and be accepted from those around them. Too much emotional expenditure in the pursuit of ‘love’ can result in health problems if those ‘need’ are not met satisfactorily. Learning to love the Self first lessens chaos and promotes wellbeing. 5th House Hygeians like to strategize plans on how to stay healthy. They may have hobbies and pastimes connected to health and will spend time planning healthy diets and creative exercise programs for their children.

Hygeian locations associated with the 5th House: Spas, resorts that promote health programs and relaxation.

Possible health issues associated with the 5th House: upper half and sides of the back, back of the shoulders, birth control and conception, heart (diseases and ailments), pregnancy and procreation, promiscuity, sexual intercourse.

HYGEIA IN THE 6TH HOUSE

In traditional astrology, the 6th House is directly concerned with health matters. Health can be a problem for those with Hygeia in the 6th House and it is often necessary to develop a sound daily regimen. A prominent issue is lack of self esteem which is based on feelings of guilt. As the 6th House is also the House of Service, those with Hygeia placed here often feel they are not doing enough for others and the price they pay for ‘approval’ is illness because they have ignored their own needs. The lack of proper balance of priorities can lead to excessive nervousness, intestinal disorders and sugar problems. When balance is achieved and if Hygeia is well aspected, this position can also produce a great healer for example - Dr. Christiaan Barnard the first surgeon to successfully perform a human to human heart transplant had Hygeia in the 6th in Sagittarius a global sign.

Hygeian locations associated with the 6th House: Public hygiene facilities, sanitation companies, healing/sick rooms, massage therapy centers, health centers that offer free vaccines, products and information to the public, dental hygiene offices.

Possible health issues associated with the 6th House: the abdomen, assimilation of food, bowels, diets, intestines and intestinal afflictions, physical weakness.

HYGEIA IN THE 7TH HOUSE

Psychology plays an important role when Hygeia is posited in the 7th House because self identification may be lacking. Traditionally the 7th House is the House of Relationships and Teamwork where ‘reliance’ is placed upon another or others in order to feel secure and happy. Too much co-dependence can bring about imbalances in the form of emotional and mental stress. In some cases a spouse may suffer ill health and require nurturing and personal care <or vice versa> so the role of caregiver is one of the manifestations of Hygeia in the 7th House. When working positively, Hygeia in the 7th House can also indicate sharing physical fitness regimes with others as a healthy outlet.

Hygeian locations associated with the 7th House: National and International health organizations, social events that promote health consciousness.

Possible health issues associated with the 7th House: lower half of back, flanks of the body (sides), buttocks, haunches, kidney diseases and afflictions, loins, ovaries.

HYGEIA IN THE 8TH HOUSE

This is a difficult posit for Hygeia. The 8th House represents strong psychological ramifications that can and will deteriorate physical health via chronic ailments that can take a long time to manifest and heal. There is however the ability to persevere and a desire to study in order to understand the hidden undercurrents of health. If poorly aspected, Hygeia in this house can also suggest a morbid fascination with death and/or suicidal tendencies. Sexual health can also be an issue. When positively aspected Hygeia in the can suggest an ability for psychiatry or psychological counseling/therapy, medical diagnostics and research.

Hygeian locations associated with the 8th House: Medicare offices, psychiatrist/psychologist offices, fertility clinics, women’s health organizations, sex health organizations, medical research labs (especially those specializing in vaccines/immunizations and cures which promote longevity).

Possible health issues associated with the 8th House: the bladder, generative system, muscular system and tissue, psychic disturbances, sex organs.

HYGEIA IN THE 9TH HOUSE

Of all the house placements of Hygeia, the 9th House placement is the least likely to have health problems because of strong belief in a Higher Divine Power or in the power of the Higher Mind to heal the body. Conversely, a personal negative attitude about the power to heal can bring on health issues physical, emotional and mental. Individuals with this posit of Hygeia are often interested in global health issues and may also enjoy studying topics about the health of the planet. They might also write, lecture, publish or teach about these subjects or travel abroad to work in health, preservation or ecology.

Hygeian locations associated with the 9th House: Foreign health organizations, science/ health publishers, health ministries, global Earth preservation organizations, “Green” societies, medical colleges and graduate schools.

Possible health issues associated with the 9th House: hepatic system, hips, upper legs, liver, thighs, and sciatic nerves.

HYGEIA IN THE 10TH HOUSE

The 10h House is most associated with societal pressures and the need to achieve and when Hygeia has challenging aspects while posited in this house there can be difficulty with relaxation and time out for rest. If so, then repressed pressure overtime can result in chronic ailments that generally manifest in middle age. When Hygeia lies close to the Midheaven the individual’s life direction or career may be linked with health. In some cases, personal health will affect career causing restrictions.

Hygeian locations associated with the 10th House: All personally owned and operated businesses associated with health and wellness, government, civic or state operated health facilities and centers, Chiropractic practices.

Possible heath issues associated with the 10th House: bones and skeletal system, joints.

HYGEIA IN THE 11TH HOUSE

Like the 9th House, the 11th House is another posit where Hygeia is least associated with health issues with the exception of possible stress when personal hopes and wishes are not fulfilled. There is generally a commitment to fitness preferably in a group or club setting especially with friends in attendance. There may also be strong interest in alternative health organizations.

Hygeian locations associated with the 11th House: Health and fitness clubs, ecological maintenance organizations, alternative healing centers such as Crystal healing and Reiki facilities and hypnotherapy centers.

Possible health issues associated with the 11th House: calves of the legs, lower legs, ankles, shins.

HYGEIA IN THE 12TH HOUSE

Like the 6th House, the 12th House is also directly concerned with health matters. When Hygeia is posited in the 12th House, psychological manifestations as well as psychic manifestations are possible. Often feelings are hidden in the subconscious mind and a build-up of negativity such as jealousy, envy and hatred of others and self hatred can lead to physical illness. There is also a strong link to Karma and old residual memories that if negative will manifest as ailments and illness. It is difficult to ignore the message of Hygeia when it is placed in this house. As the 12th House is the polarity of the 6th House, natural healers are also indicated and the ability to heal is often a past life talent brought to the fore.

Hygeian locations associated with the 12th House: Rest homes, hospitals, sanitariums, meditation labyrinths, health charities, pharmaceutical companies specializing in vaccines/immunizations.

Possible health issues associated with the 12th House: drug addiction, feet and toes (deformities and ailments), physical handicaps, institutionalization, obsessions, self injury.

posted July 10, 2014 10:13 AM            

I have it in scorpio at 16 degrees in the 12th sextile mercury.

Transit Saturn is conjuncting exact my hygeia! That is why I feel all this ugly emotions right now that I usually don't.......

I thought it was transit chiron conjuncting my moon but this description fits more with what I have been feeling this past week...

posted July 10, 2014 10:37 AM            

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posted July 10, 2014 02:20 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
Oh yeah then why aren't distant stars in other solar systems taken into account? Oh yeah some people do take them into account. How about stars in other galaxies that you cant even see? Do you take them into account? Obviously distance matters there...

And even if we payed attention to a star that we couldn't see, it wouldnt still be effecting us psychically. Astrology effects us metaphysically, or physically, I believe. But believe what you want.

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posted July 10, 2014 02:55 PM            

Chart shapes. If astroids are just as important, powerful, and relevent as the planets, then that completely disregards chart shapes, sorry to say. When a person has a funnel chart with the moon as the funnel, you can see that in their expression. You can see the emotions being honed to a focal point. But if all the asteroids were just as powerful and relevant as the 10 space bodies, this chart shape would disappear, as most of the ecliptic is covered in asteroids, and any distinctive chart shape would disappear... just saying.

At least that's how I see it. Although I think all the asteroids do effect us. But the smaller they are, the less. Like if a hand size rock was floating in space, and someone made a philosophy about what it does, do you really think that would be effecting us?

Some people believe that if you believe it's effecting you it will, and if you believe that that rock is making a sextile to your sun with that certain effect, you will manifest those characteristics in yourself. But the thing I noticed for myself about astrology, is sometimes things aren't happening to you just because you believe they are, sometimes things are actually just really happening whether you focus on it or not, and that's how real astrology is I believe. I might be wrong though.

I dont really believe the psychic collective concious thing because theres so many people who dont know their sign or charts, and upon someone else looking at their chart or themselves that won't make them a completely different person. Their beliefs of who they are will minorly effect them, but the person to the core will probably be the same.

End rant. Sorry for maybe putting down your beliefs. I might be wrong, but I just really believe in astrology.

Amelia: Chiron's mass is 27. So that's pretty big. Also I didn't mean Hygeia should replace Juno's meaning, just it's spot in importance. But whatever it doesn't matter

posted July 10, 2014 03:01 PM            

MC cancer@7.56
Hygeia cancer@7.46
Church cancer@7.02
Hawking cancer@7.41

posted July 10, 2014 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
Thanks for the info on Hygeia. Seems to match me.

Chart shapes. If astroids are just as important, powerful, and relevent as the planets, then that completely disregards chart shapes, sorry to say. When a person has a funnel chart with the moon as the funnel, you can see that in their expression. You can see the emotions being honed to a focal point. But if all the asteroids were just as powerful and relevant as the 10 space bodies, this chart shape would disappear, as most of the ecliptic is covered in asteroids, and any distinctive chart shape would disappear... just saying.

At least that's how I see it. Although I think all the asteroids do effect us. But the smaller they are, the less. Like if a hand size rock was floating in space, and someone made a philosophy about what it does, do you really think that would be effecting us?

Some people believe that if you believe it's effecting you it will, and if you believe that that rock is making a sextile to your sun with that certain effect, you will manifest those characteristics in yourself. But the thing I noticed for myself about astrology, is sometimes things aren't happening to you just because you believe they are, sometimes things are actually just really happening whether you focus on it or not, and that's how real astrology is I believe. I might be wrong though.

I dont really believe the psychic collective concious thing because theres so many people who dont know their sign or charts, and upon someone else looking at their chart or themselves that won't make them a completely different person. Their beliefs of who they are will minorly effect them, but the person to the core will probably be the same.

End rant. Sorry for maybe putting down your beliefs. I might be wrong, but I just really believe in astrology.

Amelia: Chiron's mass is 27. So that's pretty big. Also I didn't mean Hygeia should replace Juno's meaning, just it's spot in importance. But whatever it doesn't matter

Randall: If you just look at a map of the solar system, and you see the Earth, and you know that we are a tiny spec on it, and you see the other planets, even bigger then the earth, you think those huge things do not effect us, AT ALL? The effects of the planets are very small, but that effect still has a shape on our personality. Through magnetism maybe. It just goes to show how everything has an effect on everything else. This coffee cup sitting in front of me probably has a stronger effect on my mind than Mercury. It means that everything effects us in some crazy way, not just mentally how we perceive it, but metaphysically. So you should maybe be careful to not surround yourself in malefic environments, or you might feel it physically.

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posted July 10, 2014 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
Thanks I'm glad you like it and you're welcome.

My advice: Don't let astrology get to you too much. I think the effects are real, but the understanding of the effects are lacking.

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posted July 10, 2014 08:08 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
Hahahah nice.. :P Maybe you are supposed to show that there is no God and then heal people's mind of the discontentment that sows. I've already healed myself from that fact

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posted July 13, 2014 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
IMHO, I personally do not feel that size or distance matters in Astrology. Pluto is thought by many to be the most powerful planetary body within our solar system, and it is a very distant little rock. I think the Sun is powerful due to being the center of our solar system.

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posted July 14, 2014 09:28 AM            

Concentration on bacteria, health, dirt, similar to virgo but in a more scientifically medicinal way

Road conduct, staying safe, using the proper signals

I'm a vegan, never eaten apples with bruises on, always wash salad, use natural products from plants and avoid chemicals etc

posted July 14, 2014 10:10 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Exactly. It's the meaning WE attribute, through various means. Our combined collective energy is what determines how these objects or hypothetical points operate in our individual lives -- and on a grand scale.

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This is a hypothesis, is not even a theory as you can't proof or even test what you are saying.

Its more logical to conclude that we don't know enough yet as we are still advancing and growing scientifically; we haven't even started the aquarius age yet so bc we can't proof something it doesn't mean that in the future we will not be able to proof it. I dont think is just our collective unconscious as most people dont know anything about astrology; the vast majority of people don't belief in it.

An astrologer's input on gravitational resonance:

Gravitational Resonance:
Many critics of astrology have repeated the story that the gravity of the midwife has more effect on the newborn baby than the planets. However, astrologers don’t claim that gravity is the basis for natal astrology.

However, it is universally accepted that gravity and orbital resonance of the Sun and the Moon affects the Earth’s oceanic tides and the Earth tide (body tide). Studies have proposed that the tidal forces also affect the Earth's plate tectonics (Continental drift). (Moore 1973) (Scoppola 2006) The tidal force is part of what some astrologers call natural astrology which also includes the study of the coincidence of seismic activity with celestial positions, harvests and weather.

I believe it is premature to set limits on the effect of gravity and orbital resonance on Earth as there is much we don’t understand. For example, gravity is the one known force that does not yet fit into a Unified Field Theory.

Correlation precedes possible Causation:
Dr Percy Seymour, former principal lecturer in astronomy and astrophysics at Plymouth University and previously a researcher at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, has developed a model to describe the mechanism behind astrology. It is outlined in his title “Astrology: The evidence of Science”. This interview from 1989 may not include his more recent research. In outline, his model is based on the tidal tugs of all the planets in addition to the Sun and Moon which disrupt the Earth’s magnetosphere (magnetic field) which affects the human neural network. It works through the gravitational effects of the planets which are magnified by what Seymour calls ‘magneto tidal resonance’ to affect the sunspot cycle. [more]

Planetary alignments correlate with Sunspot cycles which impact the Earth:
In separate studies, there are peaks within the Sun spot cycle coinciding with the Jupiter/Saturn [helio] conjunction 11.86 years, Jupiter’s perihelion 9.93 years and what astrologer’s call a Sun/Venus conjunction 11.08 years. Solar output (including heat, light, radio, x-rays, neutrinos, solar wind and possibly more) is extremely important as regards all life on Earth (not just climate). Some of these outputs directly affect human behaviour through interactions with the Earth’s electromagnetic field. For example, there are studies showing significant correlations between events such as wars on Earth and the 11 and 22 year sunspot cycle.

Chin Cheh Hung Apparent Relations Between Solar Activity & Solar Tides caused by Planetary Activity [2007 NASA]
Glyn Wainright Jupiter's Influence [2004 New Scientist]
Ian Wilson Planetary Tidal Forces [University of Southern Queensland, Aus 2008]
Four proposals that attempt to account for this planetary/sunspot correlation.

posted July 14, 2014 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Exactly. It's the meaning WE attribute, through various means. Our combined collective energy is what determines how these objects or hypothetical points operate in our individual lives -- and on a grand scale.

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Not atall...

They're all real celestial bodies, same as the planet were standin on, when you look through a telescope and actually see them it wakes you up a bit to how small we are in the universe, but how large it makes you feel, we do actually embody the universe ourself when we're born, the brain probably makes a blueprint or is wired up to our milky way