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GemBird82
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posted August 16, 2014 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 16, 2014 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm abandoning this thread. This wasn't meant to go like this, this was about occultism related asteroids. I just wanted to study this astrologically. My bad, i guess. Please read what I have stated before too. I really wanted to try and consult other people on that mystic rectangle ... That was it. I also don't understand why I'm getting safety messages again, because our bond. Is. Freaking. Dead. Since. 13. June. I'm not in contact with him anymore. I just wanted some insight on those asteroids. Thank you all, anyways. I understand, but this is ******* dead.

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posted August 16, 2014 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluejay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Luna, the fact that you have found links to all of these dark asteroids is all the more reason that you should not be looking at this situation as a tragic love story. This man obviously has emotional issues, and if he was that deep into Satanism, he has invited evil energies into his life. As Leeloo stated, anyone willing to commit suicide over this is mentally unstable, there is no denying that. He was not in love with you, because as you've pointed out repeatedly, he had no idea who you really were. He "loved" a fantasy, not you. A fantasy that you created. I will take your word that he did not know that you were 14, but it does not change the fact that he is not of sound mind. Otherwise he would not be willing to end his life, and leave his daughter without a father over this situation. It's not something that a sane person does.

You have also posted in threads such as "Pluto Power", and you seem to be feeling a sense of empowerment about this man's fantasy fueled emotions towards you. In other threads you stated that you have been outcast amongst your peers, and this man's admiration towards you has made you feel better about yourself. You are obviously a very smart girl for your age, but you are still an impressionable young teenager. Please understand that adults giving you advice is not judging you, it's being protective of a child. There are men that prey on young women, and from an adult's perspective, it's difficult to believe that he did not at least suspect that you were underage.

I believe your claim that both of you felt very in love, but you are both so caught up in Neptune's fog that neither of you are able to see things as they truly are. I think it's very clear to outsiders looking in, so please don't get so defensive when others are trying to get you to see the situation for what it really is. It's a fantasy on both sides, and it shows in your synastry.

I'm not bashing him either, because if he truly thought that you were an adult, then he is the victim here. Especially given his fragile mental state. Also this is a world wide forum, and way too much of his information has been exposed.

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Astro keen
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posted August 17, 2014 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just for everyone's info -

All the advise being given has been discussed with Luna by loads of people in a previous thread. I am afraid she has heard it all. So now, if she reappears, she needs guidance on her new queries. Of course, in the light of their history.

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posted August 17, 2014 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GemBird82:

You know I'm not the kind of person that talk to young people like if they were brainless babies.



That was uncalled for. Luna's story has been on the forum for a while and perhaps you're not familiar with all the details.


Luna, about your kundalini awakening asteroids, I think you should include Pallas as well. As the goddess springing from her father's head, she is a symbol of the opening of the 3rd eye.

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GemBird82
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posted August 17, 2014 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ilunatique
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posted August 17, 2014 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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GemBird82
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posted August 17, 2014 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ilunatique:
Sweeties!!

I know I shouldn't laugh at any cost taking in count the context, but I have to admit I feel like it.


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IndigoDirae
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posted August 17, 2014 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Luna, sweetie, the conversations you posted, his messages show that he is either an emotional manipulative pedophile (if he knew he was talking to a teenager) or a psychiatric patient (if he thought he was talking to a young woman). I am sorry, dear, there is nothing beautiful in those messages, they are creepy and histrionic. Sane people don't try to kill themselves, unless they suffer from severe depression (which is a terrible disease). And real suicidal people don't threaten to take their lives, they just do it. Please read about REAL suicidal behavior/histrionic behavior, you seem like a smart girl. You really can't believe a man with whom you talked for a month, who didn't even know who you are, as you claim, loves you and you definitely can't believe a man writing such horrible sick hysterical messages is romantic or interesting? C'mon! Those messages are creepy! How can you be flattered by them? They show manipulative psychopatic behavior or other type of manipulative or hysterical behavior associated with other mental disorders, possibly a personality disorder such as Narcissistic or Borderline PD.

How can you imagine there's anything normal or beautiful about a single father with a little girl threatening to kill himself over an unknown person he met over the internet a short while ago, someone he never saw or met? Over anybody? Do you not see how irresponsible and sick this is?

How can you feel flattered by those disturbing psychiatric messages? I am truly shocked!


I really need a stamp. 'What Lee said.'

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IndigoDirae
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posted August 17, 2014 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GemBird82:
I know I shouldn't laugh at any cost taking in count the context, but I have to admit I feel like it.

She's a trip, eh?

Luna, here's the real deal.

We ALL care about you. You're the yearling, and we know these pastures well. We're only trying to think of what's best for you.

If you want it to BE about the astrology, don't kid yourself into posting information which OBVIOUSLY hints at what it's about. He may no longer be actively in your life -- but YOU're still bringing that energy TO you.

I don't like that he's got experience in casting. I don't like this AT all.

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ilunatique
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posted August 17, 2014 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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GemBird82
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posted August 17, 2014 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Indigo
Yes, I liked the way everyone here tried 'innately' to help Luna.
That's what I like most of LL, I think this is the most friendly Astrologic community, by far.

And just in case... and to make it clear, I didn't mean to laugh AT her.

I really like Luna.
And I like the power She has to put everyone around her.
But, as I said... that's exactly what I think she's been doing for "so long" and I wouldn't take it as if it was part of her age.

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GemBird82
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posted August 17, 2014 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey hey!

Well, may I have a little bit of a rest now?
I guess so.

- I'll be back later here.


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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 17, 2014 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Luna, I am so happy you realized he is a weak man I apologize if my posts offended you in any way, I was just worried about you. But at the same time, I've always had confidence in your intelligence.


GemBird, no one said anything AGAINST Luna. When she was 13 (now she's 14, if I'm not mistaken) she met online an almost 40 year old man and you can read his messages to her in her posts.

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IndigoDirae
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posted August 17, 2014 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Luna, I am so happy you realized he is a weak man I apologize if my posts offended you in any way, I was just worried about you. But at the same time, I've always had confidence in your intelligence.

GemBird, no one said anything AGAINST Luna. When she was 13 (now she's 14, if I'm not mistaken) she met online an almost 40 year old man and you can read his messages to her in her posts.


Exactly. Anyone with abuse issues just goes back to 'that dark place' in their heads and goes all Ceres-Demeter. NO! WHAT ARE YOU DOING! THAT'S THE UNDERWORLD! AGGHHHH!

Because we've BEEN there. We've got the tee-shirts.

So, in the end, it looks like an oddly similar story to many things that went down in my youth -- but, fortunately, with guys who were my contemporaries.

Now I have dozens of close friends / inner circle -- who I consider true friends and soul connexions, even if we've never been in the same physical room.

Our concern's just been youth. Not necessarily innocence, but that feeling we all had at that age and thought we knew so, so much. It's a magical time.

Can't wait until the kiddo starts 'informing' me of 'everything I don't actually know'. Little Miss Virgo MOON and Cappy SUN. Ohhh, fun times.

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ilunatique
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posted August 17, 2014 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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IndigoDirae

Thanks for mentioning casting… So many things are connecting in my head right now. When I was involved with him, I would wake up in the middle of the night at random hours like 4am/5am/3am and feel watched. Like something is there staring at me. I couldn’t get back to sleep, the feeling was too intense and my mind was playing with me – I THINK. so I would grab my phone and spend my time on it. Awkwardly, exactly after I woke up V would send me a message being all like – “I miss you.. middle of the night… I love you..” etc. That message got to me just by A FEW minutes before or after I woke up. Maybe it’s just my astral connection with him, but that was freaking scary. He’d also send me messages in the same time I’d start writing one, but that’s another thing. I would wake up very early too which is unusual for me right before he would get prepared to go to work too. We were very synchronizing and connected. Uh…
EDIT: My iPod I used to talk with him on broke 2 days after I left him and I started experiencing those sleep paralysis episodes. I don’t even want to know anymore. My mercury in scorpio is going to explode.
Even if he says he is no longer involved in Satanism, some things will always remain stuck in your subconscious. He surely isn’t even conscious of some things. His moon, THOUGH V I think that was our "astral" connection

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Thank you for sticking to this topic and bringing all of these info!
You hit his moon very well, he has it at 13-14 degrees…….
“So the asleep predisposition of Luna, awakes with the help of this man, through the 13th-14th degrees of Aries. “
What did I just write to Indigo…. I……. ohgod
AND I JUST REMEMBERED, his draconic moon falls right on my dr ASC. Arghh.
The psychic I have talked with, she told me we have a very strong spiritual contract. She sensed it very well. I don’t know what to say about this. This connection we have – had – I don’t know, is showing a lot. I said it before - I started experiencing sleep paralysis episodes after I left him. I never had such intense and many episodes MY ENTIRE LIFE. This added to my stress/fear. Perhaps he has control over me in astral plane and didn’t want me to leave? I don’t know?
Now,
My Isis/Osiris/Circe touches V’s Lucifer, being involved in that mystical rectangle.
His ex wife K has the EXACT SAME Isis/Osiris conjunction, IN THE SAME SIGN AS MINE, VIRGO. Mine is tighter, her conjunction has an orb of 2 degrees. Her Isis/Osiris conjunction is almost conjunct mine(!!!!!!!!), so she’s a little bit involved in the mystical kaali/siva/destinn/lucifer etc mystical rectangle too. This. This. V’s sign is virgo. Maybe it’s something fated? We both had to get involved with him (?) THIS MUCH (!?)

Everything else you said Gem, you hit it. 
Recognition though… no. I’m super shy and try to help people as much as I can, and if I can. I’m an awkward lame teenager with no social life which spends days reading Lazarev/Osho/Steiner/quantum physics, etc, etc locked in her room. Though –I wish – my voice would be a little bit heard so everyone would wake up. I’m Uranus dominant, what else could I do?
The only thing that this man did is to awake all the negative predispositions that were "asleep" on her.
This^ His Kassandra is conjunct my south node. Circe on my IC. His NN squares my own NN.
But he also made me accept who I am in reality. He also destroyed my shell. His stellium falls in my 8th. Thanks to him I’m here and I have a voice, a face. Thanks to him I cut the bangs out of my face which covered me because I hated who I was. Thanks to him I learned to not care about what others thinks and be myself. Truly. Me. Me, I’m luna. I’m no longer a shadow. I love myself now. He teached me to love myself. NOW, I can properly love/help/heal others.
Her SN points to her 1st house, so the last thing she did in her previous incarnation was to be self-centered. Her NN points to 7th, she needs to experiment the beauty of what a couple means. And leave behind the pride (myself, my skills, my recognition) (Sun-Opp Luci, which is in the 5th! Talk about accuracy!) One shouldn't look for a couple trying to gain any type of power. (Human or Sacred)
7th house – libra, partnerships in general. Couples, friends, etc. yes. I’ve been focusing on others since I’ve got here. I won’t quote myself, but I said that I almost managed to kill myself because everyone was ignorant and I couldn’t help them. They still used the word hate like it was no big business. They still ate meat filled with the negative energy of what that animal experienced. They still kept their eyes and ears shut. My near death experience woke me up too, though, and realized that I have to respect other peoples choices and not force my retrograde Jupiter in aries 3th/Uranus on them. I’m at peace now and very happy. 
Thank you! Sending as many good vibes to you as I can

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Heya !) You’re all good, don’t worry. I just didn’t like the – I’m so flattered that he would kill himself over me.
That would be sick. No. no. no .no. I told him to block me/leave this in that moment.


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IndigoDirae
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posted August 17, 2014 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ilunatique:
... and I started experiencing those sleep paralysis episodes. I don’t even want to know anymore. My mercury in scorpio is going to explode.

That doesn't sound like sleep paralysis (hypnagogia) to me. It does, however, seem energetic. I used to have some very unusual astral / dreamstate / genuinely hypnagogic experiences regarding my Guardian in the beginning.

Honestly, I'd shield myself. It could certainly be YOUR own energy with caused it to malfunction. The adolescent SCO MERC can be intense, indeed. Certainly was for me.

Meditate and cleanse.

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ilunatique
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posted August 17, 2014 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ilunatique
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posted August 17, 2014 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awh.

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libran_dream
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posted August 18, 2014 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libran_dream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad to hear you spoke with the ex, Luna.

You should make that a rule for any future guys. If you can get over the issues of jealousy, find a way to talk to their exes; if you end up being one too, you'll likely share their point of view.

You have a Sun-Moon trine in Fire and a Libra Venus, which is lovely, but very, very susceptible to rose-colored glasses in love. Let that Sco Mercury be your saviour - talk things through with informed people before getting in too deep.

Good luck.

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