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ilunatique
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posted August 15, 2014 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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GemBird82
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posted August 15, 2014 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 15, 2014 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2598 Merlin
114 Kassandra (Kassandra was a prophet during the Trojan War and no one listened to her.)
432 Pythia (the Pythia was the Oracle of Delphia at the Temple of Apollo)
100 Hekate
5264 Telephus (telepathy)

FYI, although I am listing these for you as being related to magic, I personally don't see them as dark energies. I choose to see these in a positive light. Isis/osiris and Siva/Kaali I would never see as being Satanic or dark. They represent the Divine Masculine and Divine Feminine as well as kundalini. In synastry, I have his Osiris oppose my Isis. My Isis also conjuncts his Horus and his Destinn, which is squared by my Destinn. These are within 3 degrees of my Uranus which conjuncts his Karma and is trined by my Karma. We have many aspects between Siva/Kaali. I have some past life recall, too. There is no darkness associated with these in my experience.

If you have this dark energy with him it is all the more reason to move on. I know you think this is your TF but I would caution you that a true TF would not have any of these dark energies! If you are experiencing a kundalini rise you need to see that as a positive blessing! If you are having things like OBE's you need to be especially careful to stay away from any negative energies. You should be shielding yourself.

Try these asteroids too
11911 Angel
58534 Logos
1488 Aura

I understand how hard it is though when you are awakening and you want to share it with others but only get rejected for it. You will find others you can share these things with and learn to keep quiet around others.
Be careful!

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GemBird82
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posted August 15, 2014 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 15, 2014 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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KarmicMoon
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posted August 16, 2014 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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iQ
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posted August 16, 2014 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A "Magical" post, enjoyed the read.
It is so amazing how Asteroids can complement Tarot or Psychic Analysis.

I would also look into Asteroid Magion [2696], Hermes [for Hermetic Magic] and Sheba [1196]. The Queen of Sheba was impressed by Solomon's Magical Commands over the Genii.

The worst aspect in the Synastry is Neptune conjunct Sun in the 12th as per Equal House System. This is a common pattern in Psychic Energy Theft through emotional manipulation. The male tries to use a facade of love to loot the lady's Kundalini Energy.

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Astro keen
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posted August 16, 2014 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Luna,

I saw the conversation excepts you posted. Did those take place after this guy found out you were 14 years old? If that is so, then he's quite sick. And dangerous.

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posted August 16, 2014 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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ilunatique
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posted August 16, 2014 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 16, 2014 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libran_dream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeeeeah, I agree with iQ's last paragraph and Astro keen.
If this man fully knew you were 14(!) and engaged in this kind of extremely emotionally manipulative communication with you... Sick. (not an interesting kind of sick, just...very unwell)

You don't see him as he really is, as shown with the Neptune-Sun conjunction. He is manipulating the living s*** out of you. Get away. Leave no forwarding address. Don't trust a word he says.

Especially not about past lives.

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ilunatique
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posted August 16, 2014 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Astro keen
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posted August 16, 2014 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Luna,
You seem to invite criticism by continuing to post your conversations. Which is why I assumed they were recent ones.

You had said you would both go your separate ways after you were honest enough to tell him your age. Whilst you may wish to understand the whole episode in light of what you've experienced since, posting old conversations seems to indicate that you're still too close to old memories.

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posted August 16, 2014 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libran_dream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look, you have half a dozen experienced astrologers here, in consensus, telling you this is not what it seems to you and is potentially dangerous for you. Ignore the advice at your own risk.

This guy has a Pluto/Mars/Venus/Mercury(r) stelium in Libra opposed to Aries Moon and a Tau AC - you're far from the first and far from the last.
Have an honest conversation with a few of his exes if you can find them. See what they say.

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ilunatique
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posted August 16, 2014 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
Luna,
You seem to invite criticism by continuing to post your conversations. Which is why I assumed they were recent ones.

You had said you would both go your separate ways after you were honest enough to tell him your age. Whilst you may wish to understand the whole episode in light of what you've experienced since, posting old conversations seems to indicate that you're still too close to old memories.



I'm posting old conversations so I could have some proof for what I say, to have something true behind what I say because the last time I said something about this, I have been ignored and blindly judged.

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Originally posted by libran_dream:
Look, you have half a dozen experienced astrologers here, in consensus, telling you this is not what it seems to you and is potentially dangerous for you. Ignore the advice at your own risk.

This guy has a Pluto/Mars/Sun/Mercury(r) stelium in Libra opposed to Aries Moon and a Tau AC - you're far from the first and far from the last.
Have an honest conversation with a few of his exes if you can find them. See what they say.



I'm no longer involved with him, for gods sake. Can we just stop this blabbering when I have ended this in JUNE and stick to ASTROLOGY? please? pretty please?

I was afraid people will jump at this again, not knowing the truth and only seeing bad. at first i didn't want to write this post. maybe i shouldn't have started it because instead of astrology we're getting to these things again.

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posted August 16, 2014 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libran_dream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ilunatique:

I was afraid people will jump at this again, not knowing the truth and only seeing bad. at first i didn't want to write this post. maybe i shouldn't have started it because instead of astrology we're getting to these things again.


Well, think about why. That's all I'm saying.
You know some astrology, you know about the law of causality... Put it together.

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posted August 16, 2014 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by libran_dream:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ilunatique:
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I was afraid people will jump at this again, not knowing the truth and only seeing bad. at first i didn't want to write this post. maybe i shouldn't have started it because instead of astrology we're getting to these things again.


Well, think about why. That's all I'm saying.
You know some astrology, you know about the law of causality... Put it together.[/B][/QUOTE]

He stopped talking to her when he found out her age. I don't see anything wrong with this.

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Astro keen
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posted August 16, 2014 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Luna,
The information you posted about Satanism and his related aspects, such as the one IQ quoted, are enough to cause concern.

While you delve into the astrology, you need to find a way of keeping yourself safe. You have an active kundalini. V, by the sound of it, has lower astral entities attached to him (possibly as a result of his interest in black magic). Depression and dark thoughts are often an outcome of such an attachment.

So, you need to shield yourself on account of this aspect. Please seek advice on how to protect yourself. This could be done through cleansing rituals, visualisations and affirmations.

You could discuss this in the Spider Line, as GemBird suggested.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 16, 2014 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Luna, sweetie, the conversations you posted, his messages show that he is either an emotional manipulative pedophile (if he knew he was talking to a teenager) or a psychiatric patient (if he thought he was talking to a young woman). I am sorry, dear, there is nothing beautiful in those messages, they are creepy and histrionic. Sane people don't try to kill themselves, unless they suffer from severe depression (which is a terrible disease). And real suicidal people don't threaten to take their lives, they just do it. Please read about REAL suicidal behavior/histrionic behavior, you seem like a smart girl. You really can't believe a man with whom you talked for a month, who didn't even know who you are, as you claim, loves you and you definitely can't believe a man writing such horrible sick hysterical messages is romantic or interesting? C'mon! Those messages are creepy! How can you be flattered by them? They show manipulative psychopatic behavior or other type of manipulative or hysterical behavior associated with other mental disorders, possibly a personality disorder such as Narcissistic or Borderline PD.

How can you imagine there's anything normal or beautiful about a single father with a little girl threatening to kill himself over an unknown person he met over the internet a short while ago, someone he never saw or met? Over anybody? Do you not see how irresponsible and sick this is?

How can you feel flattered by those disturbing psychiatric messages? I am truly shocked!

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posted August 16, 2014 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The synastry to me looks very nice.

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ilunatique
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posted August 16, 2014 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
A "Magical" post, enjoyed the read.
It is so amazing how Asteroids can complement Tarot or Psychic Analysis.

I would also look into Asteroid Magion [2696], Hermes [for Hermetic Magic] and Sheba [1196]. The Queen of Sheba was impressed by Solomon's Magical Commands over the Genii.

The worst aspect in the Synastry is Neptune conjunct Sun in the 12th as per Equal House System. This is a common pattern in Psychic Energy Theft through emotional manipulation. The male tries to use a facade of love to loot the lady's Kundalini Energy.



Oh iQ, thanks for stopping around here for a bit! I have read so many things from you, you have all my blessings
Besides his neptune being there, his Tantalus is also conjunct my Sun.
"Asteroid Tantalus comes from the word tantalize. As you might imagine, Tantalus is where we want something badly but it is out of our reach and seems to remain so. The word does not suggest resolution so I would say that one would not find resolution to what which one desires . The word connotes that one will be close enough to see and touch the desire of one’s affections but not to CLAIM it."

Another accurate asteroid working here. I think that Neptune mixed with Tantalus worked more in the way of - living a fantasy foggy love story of our life which almost ended in suicide.
Our composite has Chiron the most dominant aspecting everything, everything, everything. The ASC is also in Pisces, so this was mostly a spiritual/fantasy and ethereal experience which happened, made us suffer and hurt, but changed us radically in good.

Adding some asteroids now..

Hmmm.

My NN on his LOGOS
MY PHOLUS/FORTUNA/CELESTA/SHEBA on his NN/URANUS


Pholus has an explosive like effect, so i guess that I had to wake his NN up

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posted August 16, 2014 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Luna, even if he didn't know he was talking to a teenager, these are not the messages of a balanced person, I am sorry, dear. You just feel flattered that a grown up said "he loved you". Be honest to yourself, admit it to yourself, please.

And what proof do those messages show? They are not beautiful...how can it be beautiful for a single father with a little girl to write such messages to ANYONE, to speak about suicide LIKE THAT, in an infantile, creepy and manipulative way? Not to mention threatening to kill yourself over an unknown person over the internet? How can this show a balanced individual, a father? He is also using his little girl in those messages, her name, to manipulate you!
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!
He is either a psychopath or someone with a severe mental disorder.

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posted August 16, 2014 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just read the messages that LeeLoo is referring to and I agree with her.

People who love do not use others so mercilessly, making them feel guilty and fearful.

Sorry, Luna. He may be a good man, but he was mentally sick at the time of those communications.

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posted August 16, 2014 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libran_dream     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Listen to these two ladies, they're telling it to you as it is.

Also, just a heads up - you've done a poor job at hiding the man's details, anyone can gather his DOB, name and country very easily, even though you erased it on the chart.

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posted August 16, 2014 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Re KUNDALINI awkening:

Many situations could act as a catalyst for an awakening. It could be extreme stress, grief, joy, or even sleeplessness.

If you haven't already, please read this account by Gopi Krishna. It is a detailed and a very well known account of his experience.
http://holybooks.lichtenbergpress.netdna-cdn.c om/wp-content/uploads/Kundalini-the-evolutionary-energy-in-man-by-Gopi-Krishna.pdf

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