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NYCdodger
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posted September 08, 2014 09:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How would you interpret this in Gemini and in the 4th house?

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posted September 08, 2014 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orb?

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posted September 08, 2014 01:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Orb?

Pretty tight. 2 degrees. Any interpretations?

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posted September 08, 2014 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's about as wide as I'd go, so, yes. It's almost always an indicator of Soulmate relationships in the native's life.

Where are ISIS (42) and OSIRIS (1923) ?

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posted September 08, 2014 03:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
That's about as wide as I'd go, so, yes. It's almost always an indicator of Soulmate relationships in the native's life.

Where are ISIS (42) and OSIRIS (1923) ?


Haven't checked those. I'm not too educated on these asteroids. So having those two indicators means soulmate relationship? But how is that influenced by Gemini?

Also how do you know if someone is a twin flame, or a graduated soul?

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
That's about as wide as I'd go, so, yes. It's almost always an indicator of Soulmate relationships in the native's life.

Where are ISIS (42) and OSIRIS (1923) ?


Osiris is 24 degrees in the 1st house Aquarius

Isis is 8 degrees in the 2nd house Aries

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posted September 08, 2014 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Haven't checked those. I'm not too educated on these asteroids. So having those two indicators means soulmate relationship? But how is that influenced by Gemini?

Also how do you know if someone is a twin flame, or a graduated soul?


That's a more complicated process. There are very clear markers, however. We've been studying ALMA in regards to the soul mission. It's been extremely enlightening.

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
That's a more complicated process. There are very clear markers, however. We've been studying ALMA in regards to the soul mission. It's been extremely enlightening.

So from what you're seeing it's more of a yes than a no? Lol

And I would still like to know how Gemini influences that position..

I posted the Isis and Osiris too

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posted September 09, 2014 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure that the sign really has that much to do with an EROS and PSYCHE conjunction. It's more an indicator that the individual is 'destined' for a Soulmate relationship.

Whether or not they're a Graduate Soul? Good question. Twin Flame? Not without ISIS and OSIRIS.

HOWEVER.

My Twin has the same but opposite phase of a near-conjunction of the two, which, in composite, make a 1º conjunction.

So it's really more about ALMA.

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posted September 09, 2014 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
So it's really more about ALMA.

Sabian : "A Man Becoming Aware Of Spiritual Forces Surrounding And Assisting Him"

Sabian : "Around A Campfire A Group Of Young People Sit In Spiritual Communion"

ALMA speaks volumes of a person's spiritual destiny.

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posted September 09, 2014 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure if I buy this idea that only people having a close Mythical Pair conjunction in their natals are destined to have a soulmate relationship, because it means people destined to have a soulmate relationship are born only in certain years. For example, the Eros/Psyche conjunction happens roughly every 2 years, if I'm not mistaken and I remember correctly what Ceri explained to me about the upcoming conjunction in 2015.

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I'm not sure that the sign really has that much to do with an EROS and PSYCHE conjunction. It's more an indicator that the individual is 'destined' for a Soulmate relationship.

Whether or not they're a Graduate Soul? Good question. Twin Flame? Not without ISIS and OSIRIS.

HOWEVER.

My Twin has the same but opposite phase of a near-conjunction of the two, which, in composite, make a 1º conjunction.

So it's really more about ALMA.


So my Isis and Osiris will have to be conjunct in order to be a twin flame?

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I'm not sure if I buy this idea that only people having a close Mythical Pair conjunction in their natals are destined to have a soulmate relationship, because it means people destined to have a soulmate relationship are born only in certain years. For example, the Eros/Psyche conjunction happens roughly every 2 years, if I'm not mistaken and I remember correctly what Ceri explained to me about the upcoming conjunction in 2015.



I read graduate souls come in certain periods of a few years....

Early 90's...baby boomers...etc..

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posted September 09, 2014 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a catch-22.

The proclaimer may very well be enlightened or spiritually "advanced". Jesus proclaimed himself the Son of God, and there is a general consensus that he truly was a spiritually advanced person, a vanguard of a peaceful and loving movement, regardless if one believes in Christianity or not. The same goes for Buddha, and many other religious figureheads. And just the same, oftentimes they were prosecuted as naive or liars.

I concur that there are hoards of insecurities in this world, and as a social species, we are naturally driven to include ourselves as part of a group, but that still doesn't discount a genuine disparity between all of us. The sore truth is that some of us really are just woefully inept, whereas others are far more open-sighted and have the facility to better the world.

Just because someone claims to be a "twin", or whatever the special terminology of the times may use, does not necessarily discount the validity of that claim.

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posted September 09, 2014 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well, I have a feeling that spiritual hierarchies of any kind, no matter when, where or how they are proclaimed, and no matter what name the "highly advanced" group of people chooses to call itself, primarily tend to be created in order to somehow assert the superiority of the very people who created them. Or have you ever heard of a supposedly spiritually highly advanced group of people where the very person(s) who first invented it actually counted themselves among the lower class people? Never seen that happen.

Historically, the need to count oneself among a "special" or elite class of beings seems to be quite a pervasive phenomenon, starting right from Theravada Buddhism in the centuries B.C. with their Fourfold hierarchy of Noble Persons, right down to the 19th/ early 20th century Theosophist "Arhats" and "Ascended masters" on which much modern New Age philosophy is based. When it comes down to brass tacks, in actual operation such hierarchies often end up as a power tool in the hands of a self-proclaimed spiritual elite for discriminating against (or downright subduing) certain people. And they can lead to some unbelievable b!tching. If you don't believe me, go to some Buddhist internet forums and observe what happens when someone proclaims themselves partially or wholly enlightened. "Highly advanced" discussions indeed!

After studying spiritual hierarchies throughout human history for quite some time, I cannot help but remain skeptical of any such claims as the ones you cited, especially if the people who make those claims count themselves among the superior beings.


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posted September 09, 2014 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
That's a catch-22.

The proclaimer may very well be enlightened or spiritually "advanced". Jesus proclaimed himself the Son of God, and there is a general consensus that he truly was a spiritually advanced person, a vanguard of a peaceful and loving movement, regardless if one believes in Christianity or not. The same goes for Buddha, and many other religious figureheads. And just the same, oftentimes they were prosecuted as naive or liars.

I concur that there are hoards of insecurities in this world, and as a social species, we are naturally driven to include ourselves as part of a group, but that still doesn't discount a genuine disparity between all of us. The sore truth is that some of us really are just woefully inept, whereas others are far more open-sighted and have the facility to better the world.

Just because someone claims to be a "twin", or whatever the special terminology of the times may use, does not necessarily discount the validity of that claim.


...or its invalidity

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Well, I have a feeling that spiritual hierarchies of any kind, no matter when, where or how they are proclaimed, and no matter what name the "highly advanced" group of people chooses to call itself, primarily tend to be created in order to somehow assert the superiority of the very people who created them. Or have you ever heard of a supposedly spiritually highly advanced group of people where the very person(s) who first invented it actually counted themselves among the lower class people? Never seen that happen.

Historically, the need to count oneself among a "special" or elite class of beings seems to be quite a pervasive phenomenon, starting right from Theravada Buddhism in the centuries B.C. with their Fourfold hierarchy of Noble Persons, right down to the 19th/ early 20th century Theosophist "Arhats" and "Ascended masters" on which much modern New Age philosophy is based. When it comes down to brass tacks, in actual operation such hierarchies often end up as a power tool in the hands of a self-proclaimed spiritual elite for discriminating against (or downright subduing) certain people. And they can lead to some unbelievable b!tching. If you don't believe me, go to some Buddhist internet forums and observe what happens when someone proclaims themselves partially or wholly enlightened. "Highly advanced" discussions indeed!

After studying spiritual hierarchies throughout human history for quite some time, I cannot help but remain skeptical of any such claims as the ones you cited, especially if the people who make those claims count themselves among the superior beings.


Take it easy...No one said graduate souls were more "special" than other souls. Don't know why you made that assumption. A graduate soul is basically someone who has lived enough life times and is basically giving it all back. Doesn't mean you're more special, never said this. And from what I know, they definitely are just as clueless as most of us. Put it like this, a graduate soul is someone who has lived enough lifetimes to know what it is exactly they need to do to make the world a better place. Ironically enough, most graduate souls are the most curious people ever. They desire to learn more than they teach

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posted September 09, 2014 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I'm not sure if I buy this idea that only people having a close Mythical Pair conjunction in their natals are destined to have a soulmate relationship, because it means people destined to have a soulmate relationship are born only in certain years. For example, the Eros/Psyche conjunction happens roughly every 2 years, if I'm not mistaken and I remember correctly what Ceri explained to me about the upcoming conjunction in 2015.


I think it's more that certain folks are incarnating in certain crops in order to achieve certain things a la their zeitgeist. And, really, it's ISIS-OSIRIS that's the BIG clue, but I've certainly noticed that those with EROS and PSYCHE conjunct have a very influential Soulmate relationship in which karma must be cleared.

Does that mean ONLY them? Of course not. But it certainly does seem to be a strong enough marker which can narrow it down. For example, I've had nothing but Soulmate relationships. But that might be the Twin thing; I'm not sure.

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posted September 09, 2014 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:

I read graduate souls come in certain periods of a few years....

Early 90's...baby boomers...etc..


Not necessarily. It's more scattered than that. And, I've yet to find a set of Twin Flames born in the '90s. As of yet. There's obviously time.

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I think it's more that certain folks are incarnating in certain crops in order to achieve certain things a la their zeitgeist. And, really, it's ISIS-OSIRIS that's the BIG clue, but I've certainly noticed that those with EROS and PSYCHE conjunct have a very influential Soulmate relationship in which karma must be cleared.

Does that mean ONLY them? Of course not. But it certainly does seem to be a strong enough marker which can narrow it down. For example, I've had nothing but Soulmate relationships. But that might be the Twin thing; I'm not sure.


So in terms of twin flames. Are you saying that it is indicated by a conjunction between Isis and Osiris?

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posted September 09, 2014 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Vajra:
Historically, the need to count oneself among a "special" or elite class of beings seems to be quite a pervasive phenomenon, starting right from Theravada Buddhism in the centuries B.C. with their Fourfold hierarchy of Noble Persons, right down to the 19th/ early 20th century Theosophist "Arhats" and "Ascended masters" on which much modern New Age philosophy is based.

I prefer the term 'Arsehat', Vajra, if you wouldn't mind? Very picky about these things, getting the terms right and all.

Honestly, as one of the touted graduate souls -- Twin Flames -- and such, I feel I've just as much -- if not more bloody karma to sort out. I don't begrudge myself for going the scientific route, but -- gah! If I'd just followed my parents' path of metaphysics rather than turning against it all -- who knows where I'd be?

... Maybe right exactly where I am.

OOH, there's a thought.

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posted September 09, 2014 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Take it easy...No one said graduate souls were more "special" than other souls. Don't know why you made that assumption. A graduate soul is basically someone who has lived enough life times and is basically giving it all back. Doesn't mean you're more special, never said this. And from what I know, they definitely are just as clueless as most of us. Put it like this, a graduate soul is someone who has lived enough lifetimes to know what it is exactly they need to do to make the world a better place. Ironically enough, most graduate souls are the most curious people ever. They desire to learn more than they teach


I'm pretty sure neither of them will tell you: "I'm a graduate soul". It contradicts the definition of a "graduate soul". A major characteristic of evolved souls is MODESTY (even if they know they're a bit ahead).

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