posted October 02, 2014 12:07 AM            

this man i know has

Venus 12 Taurus
NN 15 Taurus
Mars 18 Leo
Saturn 16 Leo
Pluto 12 Leo
Nessus 8 Taurus
Lust 10 Aquarius
Aphrodite 10 Leo
Lie 12 Scorpio
Tantalus 16 Taurus

And i think he is trying to control me and doesn't care what i think.. could this aspect mean this?

Transit Saturn at 20 Scorpio is activating this as well.

My Pallas is at 18 Aquarius
My Vertex is at 12 Taurus
My Pluto is at 9 Scorpio

posted October 02, 2014 01:52 AM            

However, his nNESSUS opposite your nPLUTO, while 1º, could potentially be something. All depends upon how he handles power.

As to your nDEJANIRA being involved, it also has to do with, again, how you perceive victimhood, and how he handles power. How's his MARS? Some with MARS/SATURN have over-control issues, and a VERY difficult time 'letting go', feeling very frustrated. His nPLUTO is rather close to the MARS/SATURN, too.

So, what's up with your Twin, by chance?

posted October 02, 2014 07:32 AM            

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posted October 02, 2014 10:50 AM            

With those PLANETS I would think he probably has control "issues" but why are YOU in the mix? His Nessus is not very near your Deja, but it IS squared by his Pluto, which to me would indicate that he fights those tendencies within himself.

posted October 02, 2014 01:27 PM            

Yes he is very much not wanting to give up the control.

I was getting a reading with someone about him the other day, and he said there is an energetic astral cord between us and if i wanted him to remove it. I said yes, I felt him grab the cord and he took it out. But right when he took it out the guy said this man got extremely mad when he did it. And he said the cord was connected to his third eye chakra and my heart! so that means he IS watching me and everything i do like i suspected. And he doesn't want anyone interfering with his ability to do this. This man watches my most private intimate moments and it is literally making me feel like a victim because he has the ability to do it and i can't make him stop.

Since it is connected to his third eye chakra, he consciously connected the cord like i suspected as well.

posted October 02, 2014 08:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
His Pluto conjuncts it. This would feel like he had primal power over you

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posted October 02, 2014 08:19 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
the conjunction to pluto is by 7 orbs....Perhaps based on what you have listed is the mars square dejanira by one orb.

What is asteroid Sado doing in your synastry with him? Also is his mars in aspect to NESSUS?

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posted October 02, 2014 08:27 PM            

I've noticed a very clear pattern here. You have paranoid tendencies that seem to focus upon whatever male target you may either be afraid of desiring, or are ambivalent to feel desirous towards. It's like casting a play for one. This is the second time I've heard you mention being afraid of someone watching you, 'especially your most intimate moments'.

That's very paranoid. Yes, I understand you're expressing concern, but there's a pattern to this behaviour, which reminds me of one who is lonely, unattached, and longing to be sexually desired 'against her will'. This is common in those who have sexual feelings they can't own for a number of reasons. I've treated many submissive men who crave a powerful, dominant woman to enter their lives without care and desire them so totally that they spy on them without their knowledge and are literally going mad if someone should thwart them.

... Sounds a little familiar, no?

posted October 02, 2014 08:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Athene, if I may.

I've noticed a very clear pattern here. You have paranoid tendencies that seem to focus upon whatever male target you may either be afraid of desiring, or are ambivalent to feel desirous towards. It's like casting a play for one. This is the second time I've heard you mention being afraid of someone watching you, 'especially your most intimate moments'.

That's very paranoid. Yes, I understand you're expressing concern, but there's a pattern to this behaviour, which reminds me of one who is lonely, unattached, and longing to be sexually desired 'against her will'. This is common in those who have sexual feelings they can't own for a number of reasons. I've treated many submissive men who crave a powerful, dominant woman to enter their lives without care and desire them so totally that they spy on them without their knowledge and are literally going mad if someone should thwart them.

... Sounds a little familiar, no?

I just noticed you didn't respond to my earlier question, so maybe you will to this one.

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Have you thought that the person i keep talking about is the same person?? Geesh. I don't answer because you aren't helping. I know what I know and i feel him around and he is around. I do feel like a victim i have many dreams of this situation and i trust my intuition and what I see. I feel like a victim for the first time in my life and I'm not lying. And its because he has more power than me.

posted October 02, 2014 08:35 PM            

Maybe the recent tSATURN squaring your nDEJANIRA is bringing these tendencies out? It might be time to ask what it is you're trying to understand about the concept of victimhood with yourself.

BTW, my NNODE is right on your nDEJA.

posted October 02, 2014 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I'm not addicted I have never seen myself as a victim not even to my own parents who abused me. This is the first time i have felt this way!

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Ahhhh. That makes sense.

Okay. It's easier to handle issues of victimhood from a distance, rather than at the source. It's like erotomania, but instead of fantasising about being desired, you're fixated upon being a victim.

Start keeping a journal and record your feelings about this. Notice how they're very, very, sexual. You're exploring (possibly repressed) feelings about privacy invasion and feeling helpless.

I'm sorry that you were abused in childhood. That's rough stuff. Did you ever explore these issues with a therapist?

When victims disown their own victimhood, it tends to permeate their subconscious: dreams, obsessions -- and art, if you're creative. As a writer, themes of victimhood were pervasive in my work for years until I began to confront my own past.

Maybe it's time you start confronting yours, too?

posted October 02, 2014 09:08 PM            

I'm done hashing and rehashing this with you. But I refuse to associate with anosognosiacs. So, good luck with that.

And I'm largely Gestalt. If you're going to insult a psychotherapist, at least get the school they studied right.

posted October 02, 2014 09:15 PM            

This is astrology. Not therapy. Your advice is unsolicited and incorrect.

posted March 20, 2015 05:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
You seem addicted to the idea of being a victim.

Maybe the recent tSATURN squaring your nDEJANIRA is bringing these tendencies out? It might be time to ask what it is you're trying to understand about the concept of victimhood with yourself.

BTW, my NNODE is right on your nDEJA.

Just sayin'.

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My Nessus and Deja sq his Pluto and also Mars. :O
His Deja sq my Mars.

posted March 21, 2015 01:28 AM            

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Originally posted by astra7:
I don't pretend to be highly spiritual at least. lol

I have been avoiding power struggle all my life. I just simply don't like arguments and much prefer to be alone than to associate with someone. tPluto came along to my 1st h and I will have to use this energy or I will die. Just going with the flow my dear. You know what happens when you resist the incoming energy, especially with pluto, he will do it anyway.

Never thought I'd be interested in WAR but picked up a book called 33 strategies of war by Robert Greene. Whether you call it WAR, there is war (competition) going on in work, in our immediate envrionment whether you are discussing if a particular plan of building would be suitable etc..... Life is a game. It's about winning. Of course, you need to enjoy the journey too, however.

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posted March 21, 2015 01:31 AM            

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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
Hmmm.. I have Dejanira (12 Aries 39) conjunct my Descendant(11 Aries 07).. Hmmm.. That means I would have Dejanira Trine Jupiter(12 Sag 33) and my Moon (9 Sag 35)

Makes me wonder what having it on my Descendant could mean though..? I have a few slight ideas, but I'm not sure.

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posted March 21, 2015 02:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
DEJA puts us in touch with our concept of victimisation or victimhood. Either you will express this energy or encounter it in your relationships; bringing to you those who are 'victim types'.

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