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GemBird82
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posted February 19, 2015 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi iQ,

Good Day, if you read this soon... I guess it will be on Feb 20th in India.
Well, an hour ago, more or less I discovered something quite interesting. And it won't be a waste of time. I can bet so.

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- Well, what is it about?
I'm sure you have heard about Chandra Levy's case.

I was reading some info, about this topic. And I was wondering how the "bad guys" could make such a smart plot (if that would be the case).Then, for some reason, I knew there could be an indicator, something that officialy doesn't have a name or officialy does not exist.

The 'something' in question are 2 asteroids that do not have a name yet but even so, they can be draw in a natal.

These objects are:

292929
111111

There is some synchronicity factor there and it can't be coincidence, or at least I think that way.

- For example:
Ms Chandra Levy had:

Dr Lucifer conj Natal Kaali
Moon and Draconic Sun conj Natal Lucifer

But she also had, (almost exactly).

Natal Vesta conjunct Draconic 292929
292929 Square Uranus
292929 Square Mercury
Kaali Square Draconic 111111
Lucifer square Tisiphone (466)
Natal Ate (111) conj Draconic Mars

I suspect this has quite a relevance, perhaps related to some ritualistic agenda organized by some minorities. Another example would be the fact that some years ago, almost no one could find the existence of 55555 in the web. Yes, websites like astro.com existed in those years but the asteroid was never listed. Strange.

Coincidentially, Linda Goodman wrote about 29 being the heaviest karma of all, that's why Grace under pressure and A muzzled Lion, a clenched fist are so tough.

Chandra Levy is only the first person with suspicious 292929/111111 connections I've found.
I don't intend to make this post any longer as I don't have much time, but if you try these objects in more peculiar cases, perhaps you will be surprised.

I might add some other charts later.
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For anyone else reading this, remember that not all what it appears to be 'bad' is bad, and not all that seems to shine is 'good'. Some things are not evil or harmful, just bad used or perhaps unknown. Maybe there is no evil, only lack of benevolence. perhaps there's no dark, only absence of light, but above all things you should remember that there's no reason to feel fear, specially about something you can't quite understand yet or you aren't totally sure about. Just as this thread I created .

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posted February 20, 2015 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eternalone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi.
Gembird.

Your research is quite interesting & may hold true in long run.
I want to add few more numbers which show important issues in charts i have studied.
333333 this is conjunct (within 0-1 degree orb )my juno & uranus in my 7th house in natal. I think this asteriod played a important role in finding my Soul-Mate.Not found this asteriod close to juno in all other couples i studied.

999999 also found prominent in long lasting relationship synastry.

There are few others too which are not known but do have significant impact but have to study them more before commenting.

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posted February 20, 2015 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is interesting. I did combine it with the sequences that popped up in my mind to see what happens in my chart. Those numbers are very intersting.

Edit: I have 333333,999999 retrograde in my natal chart.

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posted February 21, 2015 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi folks,
I think I'm being lazy enough to not give all my attention to this special topic.
First, I want to thank you both Eternalone,GeminiKarat for your attention in this thread. It's very impressive what Eternalone has suggested.

* Because, there's definitely something that we common people cannot see. (Eventually can't, that is )

Sadly I can't comment much more about your inpunt because I have to concentrate with what I'm trying to find (to prove?).

I'll be back with some chart/cases.
Hopefully, today will be chart example's day.

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posted February 21, 2015 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If my theory is wrong, the aspects shouldn't be there. Each time the aspects will get more and more interesting.

First

Cathy O' Brien. Victim of Mind Control project.

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posted February 21, 2015 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JonBenet Ramsey

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posted February 21, 2015 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Disney Walt

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posted February 21, 2015 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Madonna

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posted February 21, 2015 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I think it's just the tip of the Iceberg.

Who or "What" is/was controlling their lives? Who or What is this 292929 that is always there in them? I have some theories in my head so far. And about 111111, I'm taking in count Linda Goodman's Star Signs. "A Muzzled Lion, a clenched Fist" Symbol of confrontation and tension.
( Because there are many ways to interpret an 11 ).
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I think these 2 objects will be more productive in iQ's hands than in mine.

~ Until next time.

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posted February 22, 2015 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will be lurking until than.

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posted February 27, 2015 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am looking into this, looks very very interesting in the study of "Mind Control"/Monarch Programming.

11-11-11, Hmmm.

13 x 13 x 13 is the alleged Matrix or Cube for creating "Altered States".

Could 11-11-11 point to the actual Programming Cube, beyond which the Person can Deprogram [12 x 12 x 12] and then attain Self Mastery [13 x 13 x 13] ?

Edit: Mathematically speaking, you may have made a breakthrough discovery for knowing whether or not a suspected MK-Ultra or Monarch Slave has indeed been programmed.
10 thumbs up GemBird!

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posted February 27, 2015 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, Thank you iQ!
Glad it was useful after all, you are so Kind.

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posted February 27, 2015 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found the discovery date for 292929 2006 VO69
Nothing a good translator can't solve.
Date is November 11, 2006
Intriguing...

111111 - 2001 VO84
Discovery date: November 12, 2001

Discovery date for 131313 2001 FO171
March 24, 2001

And
121212, 1999 RP5

Well, this would be as far as I go for now.
Looks like there's always something new to see up there.
~ Thank you again, iQ

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posted February 27, 2015 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, I grew up in a cult. I am one of very few who made it out with a sense of any identity at all. My mom and brother are still trapped in it. My dad was never in it all he left my mom when she joined. I've known 2 ppl from the cult in my family alone that have killed themselves due to the pain they lived every day.

Both my moms Pluto and my brothers Sun sit on fixed star Regulus....n neither seem to be able to break free?

I was 25 when I left the "religion" but it's taken another decade+ to break the indoctrination that was done to me.

Asteroid 131313 falls on my Chiron exact
Asterod 111111 is exact opposed my Dejanira

Odd synchronicities....
My sons birthday 11-29
The Scorpio Sun on Nov 12th is on my NN

111111-Discovery Chart Nov 12, 2001
Sun on my NN(1.5-2 degree)
Moon on my Pluto(1 degree)
Mars on my Spirit(1.5 degree)
Saturn on my Psyche(1 degree)
Saturn sextile my Jupiter(2 degree)
Jupiter square my Jupiter(0 degree)
Saturn opposed my Neptune(1.5 degree)
Pluto trine my Jupiter(1 degree)
Neptune trine my AC(0 degree)
NN on my Mars(1.5 degree)
Uranus square my NN(1 degree)

Also, I just met a man who I'm getting to know who's birthday is Nov 12th....his Sun/Mars/Merc/Dejanira/Karma are all in my NN. As of yet we seem to awaken a deep healing in each other.

In this Discovery chart asteroid 333333, 999999, 131313 make a mutable t-square, 131313 sits on my Neptune(0 degree)
292929 sits on my Saturn(0 degree)

Not sure what this could mean, but it's interesting!

I was born nov 27th, so I looked up 272727 it's on my natal Spirit...
My natal 292929 is square my Spirit

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posted February 27, 2015 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Draco chart-
My 131313 virgo@3.09
My Chiron virgo@2.30
"Discovery date March 24, 2001" Pluto virgo@3.28

"Discovery date Nov 12, 2001" 131313 virgo@13.59

My Trop Dejanira virgo@15.18

Ouch just remembered Charles Manson was born on nov 12th!! Nov 12th's historical events are so violent, a lot of major war incidents on that date.
Pluto was named a planet March 24, 1930

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posted February 27, 2015 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny. All of the above is reminiscent of what I've only come to know as Jabberwocky. I'm distantly descended from Charles Dodgson (Lewis Carroll) and have a lot of his quirks: schizoid personality, asexuality, migraine patterns and, a weird relationship with time.

As such, over the course of my life, I've delved into his work quite feverishly, coming to understand the deeply controversial buried messages in all of it -- especially Alice. 'Controversial', due to his theorising what would essentially become quantum theory long before its ACTUAL discovery -- far before special relativity. He also created a dual persona (Carroll) to protect the legitimacy of both his religious affiliation and academic career at Oxford -- as a mathematician and logician. But, ohhhh, how he loved puzzles and ciphers. He also hated authority, and used his creativity to get his antiestablishment messages across.

But there was something else going on with Dodgson. Something I feel he desperately tried to understand, studying mathematics and logic as a means to combat the insanity. Something, quite possibly, in the Dodgson DNA code, which is in my matrilineage.

Before I ever studied Dodgson in an attempt to more accurately create a character in homage, I was stumbling into bizarre coincidences. It's as if some level of me knew. Add that into my strange history with black sites, government projects, and psychogenic conspiracy ... well, it's made me wonder what I DO know. And why.

Recently, within the past few months or so, trance states have revealed the potential for a powerful agency the likes of which became known to me as Jabberwocky, to be existent in some other eigenstate or dimensional space. I'm almost certain, in that case, that one of my alternate lifelines is heavily involved. With trying to escape them.

Curiously, I can't rule out a bit of destiny, either. My father had a similar series of recurring dreams in his adolescence involving such a group. It would seem then, that mine are almost 'inherited'. (I say 'destiny', as it's not my patrilineage, but matriline which is Dodgson.)

I have a vehement hatred for any and all subprojects of MK-Ultra ilk. A bit inexplicably and maddeningly so. Oddly enough, so does my Guardian. And don't get me started on his pet mission to rid the modern world of any and all forms of mind control. Bless him.

So, I am curious, if it's just me?

JABBERWOCK is 7470. It's always held a darker meaning to me, and, I suspect it was similarly so for my thrice-great uncle.

I'd be interested to see if it's got any intriguing aspects or configurations for the 'paranoid', or perhaps differently aware, set.

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posted February 27, 2015 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do you use TISIPHONE, GemBird?

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posted February 27, 2015 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aubyanne....I know I'm not Gembird but here's a brief quote regarding her mythology.
She is thought to be involved/activated at times with murderous events that have happened and/or murderous/negative karmic patterns in charts.

Tisiphone (Ancient Greek: Τισιφόνη, "avenging murder") is the name of two figures in Greek mythology.
Tisiphone was the one who punished crimes of murder: parricide, fratricide and homicide. In Book VI of Virgil's Aeneid, she is described as the guardian of the gates of Tartarus, 'clothed in a blood-wet dress'.
-Wikipedia

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posted February 28, 2015 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I know all about TISIPHONE, Gabby. Heh. But I'm wondering why she's chosen to use that particular point in such subject matter. LUCIFER, I get. But TISIPHONE?

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posted February 28, 2015 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Oh, I know all about TISIPHONE, Gabby. Heh. But I'm wondering why she's chosen to use that particular point in such subject matter. LUCIFER, I get. But TISIPHONE?

Ahhh, gotcha!!

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posted February 28, 2015 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 01, 2015 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone have any experience with JABBERWOCK (7470)?

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posted March 03, 2015 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Anyone have any experience with JABBERWOCK (7470)?

Alice-ASC with Tisiphone-NOT-Lie-Karma-Christen square nodes still and as ever has
Jabberwock at 25.16 Taurus conj Algol and 26.09 SN with Alekto-Armandhammer-Katerina. *shrug*

999999 26.14 Taurus

292929 2.05 Lib with IC, Orpheus, Ubasti, Bastian, Cardinal, Priestley, Humboldt, etc. And the supergalactic centre, obviously.

Opposite 666 Desdemona, square 2 Can Nessus

131313 8.45 Tau conj Abundantia, Victoria, Archaeopteryx, Apollinaire
Also 9 Tau's Atlantis-Serendip (square tons of things at 7-9 Leo, 8 Aqua Spirit)

121212 19.59 Gem conj AVX + Giza, Akka, Sampo, Spielberg(?)
111111 23.40 Pis opp Akashi, square 24 Sag Angel-Prey. Drac 111111 conj 27 Can Saturn.

And I have Sado conj Venus, under 2 degrees from 8 Virgo Kaali conj Swindle, oh noes, all conjunct or near enough ominous Thuban as well. However will I survive?

Do I get a pass with IQ's ages ago mention of Laotse conjunct Constable-Venus (between Venus & Kaali-Philosophia-Fox-Nike) and some other things talking of spiritual purposes, etc.? No? Tough. I'll take them, anyway, same as the rest of the things had on the Venus and elsewhere.

IQ on the Magion thread: "Very strong conjunction of so many Asteroid themes. Looks like you will have success in "initiation" Magic by being able to use your internal Divine Spirit very strongly to charge the magical thought or invocation, for higher good [considering Asteroid Conscience and Bishop]."

I'd assume Cardinal and Priestley qualify for similar "higher good" sorts if Bishop elevates Cosncience. Especially considering that the Logos-Magion asteroids are the antiscia of the loaded SN. Nothing is unguarded. Angelica-NN can finish the picture for all I care.

To answer your question from another angle, Alice just yesterday slayed or slew Jabberwocky in the "Crispin Glover looks very good as Stayne" movie from a few years back, but you probably don't want TV experiences. What's your Vorpal sword?

222222 26.01 R Cap
333333 24.02 Can

22's my date and number and (not?) coincidentally, this is the 22nd post in the thread.

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posted March 03, 2015 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GemBird82:
Well, I think it's just the tip of the Iceberg.

Who or "What" is/was controlling their lives? Who or What is this 292929 that is always there in them? I have some theories in my head so far.


Might I ask you if you (or IQ or whoever else) had anything to say as to my chart hits in the comment above? 292929 on the IC, and whatever else. Draconic Lucifer-Alma-Tezcatlipoca-Shankar hits Siva, too, though that's not the same as Kaali, of course. And may we ask what theories?

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posted March 14, 2015 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my new concerns with MK-Ultra effects is what it does to the next incarnation's immediate past life recall.

Lets say N number of Alters have been traumatically induced, can the recalling person identify what was the alter and what was genuine? Would recalling a programmed Alter download the programming into the present and throw Kundalini off-balance?

Imagine the child of a couple who have MK-Ultra and Monarch Programming. Or for that matter any cult programming.

A recall into genetic memory would itself be traumatic.

This is why nobody should jump into past life regression, and why Astrology would be a safer mode of understanding.

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