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Topic: Lucifer as a "Know-it-all?"
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Eirlys
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From: Atlantic Coast
Registered: May 2013
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posted April 26, 2015 04:16 PM
  
@StawrThe church screws up God for a lot of people. The best explanation I've heard is that The Church is NOT a building (which is corruptible, like everything else on this earth)... it spans all time and space. --- LaVey preached Self as the highest aim. Meh. :/ ------------------
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted April 26, 2015 04:55 PM
LaVey preached Self as the highest aim.Meh. :/ Self as the highest "I am" is the essence of Lucifer. ------------------
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Vajra
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posted April 26, 2015 05:14 PM
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted April 26, 2015 05:55 PM
I don't like churches. I went for a long time. A church is 2 or more people called together in God's name. I have a few close people who are "church" to me. That is all you need. The huge institutions were not what Jesus meant to be churches. There were home churches in the time of Jesus and the home churches are where it is at now imo------------------
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BellaFenice
Knowflake Posts: 3419
From: Neptune with PisceanDream, Faith, and Meissieri
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted April 26, 2015 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
BellaI just looked. It is 4 degrees which is too wide BUT if I did, I would accept what it said. I, personally, don't understand people who will not accept their placements and want to say something is not what it is. How can you have any hope of any change if you deny what your chart says. I see things in different terms than many people on here. I am a Bible believer and one BIG difference is that we believe in right and wrong and we believe in good and evil. The current New Age philosophy makes everything "good" I do not agree with that. Hence, for me, if I had Lucifer conjunct venus, I would see what it had to teach me about pride.
Okay, but how does that work when say you have X, Y, Z, but it has to have "one absolute answer?" The beauty of astrology is that one planet/aspect/asteroid isn't going to manifest the same. Being different= does not mean you are only the only one correct You keep saying that Libra Moon and Cancer Mars (Barbie's placements, I see what you are doing) make a disloyal person, but how do you know your opinion to be the absolute truth? What if someone else has a good experience, does that mean they are a liar and you are an absolute god? The same thing with Aqua Sun and Libra Moon.... Good and evil is actually something moralistically based that even those who don't read the bible are aware of. No one (including myself) in here is refuting the good and bad sides of Lucifer, I am merely questioning how it is related to being a know-it-all because I've never seen enough evidence to support it. IP: Logged |
BellaFenice
Knowflake Posts: 3419
From: Neptune with PisceanDream, Faith, and Meissieri
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted April 26, 2015 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lucifer was one of the foremost angels in Heaven. He was the most glorious creature ever created. It if thought that he was the head of music and that he had pipes built into his body.Due to his great beauty and magnificence, he got lifted up with pride. He wanted all God's worship for himself. He was NOT dark when he was Lucifer. When Lucifer rebelled against God, he was thrown out of Heaven( with the angels who joined him) He was re named Satan, which means the adversary. Asteroids HAVE to stay true to the stories/myths/accounts etc. If WE don't like that, that is OUR problem, but the story must be distilled down to it's core truth, the best that we can.
What about the two saints though? That changes the interpretation of the asteroid as well. The thing is your interpretations of Nessus and Deja do not 100% follow the myths, because if they did, it would both Nessus and Deja having good and bad dualities. So I have a hard time understanding you can claim if someone doesn't like your interpretation it is because we aren't accepting of the truth when you are promoting an imbalance and biased interpretation of the myth. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 26, 2015 07:08 PM
That is true about the dualities, Bella. You have to try to hone down the stories to the simplest themes. If not, everything is a mush. When everything is a mush, there is no practical value in the study of asteroids imo ALSO, you have to observe the playing out of the asteroids. In time, you can see how Nessus, Lucifer, Deja plays out etc. When they play out the same way over and over, you can come to trust it. ------------------
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Stawr
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From: N. America
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted April 26, 2015 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lucifer was one of the foremost angels in Heaven. He was the most glorious creature ever created. It if thought that he was the head of music and that he had pipes built into his body.
I'm also musically gifted. Have perfect pitch. I never practiced Violin at home, but was still first chair. I even clashed with my teacher and quit because of her.
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Stawr
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posted April 26, 2015 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]LaVey preached Self as the highest aim.Meh. :/ Self as the highest "I am" is the essence of Lucifer. [/B]
haha! Well, I am an Aries! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted April 26, 2015 07:20 PM
StawrThat is amazing. Perfect pitch!! ------------------
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Eirlys
Knowflake Posts: 516
From: Atlantic Coast
Registered: May 2013
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posted April 27, 2015 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by Vajra:
^Indeed. This reminds me of a medieval saying about the trials faced by seafarers: "Those who cannot pray should go to sea; those who cannot sleep should go to church." 
Oh I like that. Tis truth!
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