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NikiVenus6
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posted June 22, 2015 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just checked the chart of my cousin who would get beaten'up by a boy at school. In their synastry, his "Nemesis" conjuncts her Dejanira which is conjunct her Moon.

What are your experiences?

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posted June 22, 2015 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES, nemesis shows these things in the chart!

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posted June 23, 2015 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
YES, nemesis shows these things in the chart!


Thanks Ami, I just "Pinned" it!

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posted June 24, 2015 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My brother's Nemesis is in Taurus and mine is in Cancer. He's a Cancer, I'm a Taurus. I can't speak for how he feels about me, but I do see him as my enemy even if we're able to act like we tolerate each other.

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posted June 24, 2015 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 25, 2015 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lerena:
My brother's Nemesis is in Taurus and mine is in Cancer. He's a Cancer, I'm a Taurus. I can't speak for how he feels about me, but I do see him as my enemy even if we're able to act like we tolerate each other.

I can sense that. I also have Nemesis in Taurus so usually Taurus men turn me off. I feel they have a wrong attached to them. For e.g, the boy who'd beat up my cousin is Cap Sun and she has her Nemesis in Capricorn conjunct her descendant by 3 degree orb. She doesn't like being around Cap Suns especially those who conjunct her Nemesis. At work place or anywhere they seem to block her path.

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posted July 01, 2015 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Jupiter conjuncting my ex b-friend Nemesis ... That's why I wanted to kill him in the first time I saw him! Hahaha!

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posted July 01, 2015 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoaringLeaves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Nemesis was conjunct one of my ex's ASC. I never loved anyone the way I loved than man. It was passion with abandon, to the point of forgetting my own life and self in order to protect him and help his career. Guess what! Despite the slew of great aspects and despite the fact that he loved me (he repeatedly said so in terms of, "I hate that I love you"), I could never persuade him that I'm not his worst enemy.

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posted July 01, 2015 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 01, 2015 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NEMESIS is asteroid #128 for anyone who does not want to look it up

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posted July 01, 2015 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have nemesis conjunct my sun in the 4th! hahahahhaha!!!! sun 21 degrees cap, nemesis 23 degrees cap, Boda & union in cap at 23 degrees all in the 4th house LOL!! i have no problems with capricorns despite if they conjunct my sun and my nemesis never had a problem with anyone conjuct my nemesis, and i realized that im soooo attracted to capricorns, if they have sun or mars or saturn in cap i noticed how attracted i find them to be. i guess its probably cause of my heavy capricorn stelium and my IC lust and aphrodite all in cap too, i am my own worst enemy i do have to say.

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posted July 02, 2015 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
i have nemesis conjunct my sun in the 4th! hahahahhaha!!!! sun 21 degrees cap, nemesis 23 degrees cap, Boda & union in cap at 23 degrees all in the 4th house LOL!! i have no problems with capricorns despite if they conjunct my sun and my nemesis never had a problem with anyone conjuct my nemesis, and i realized that im soooo attracted to capricorns, if they have sun or mars or saturn in cap i noticed how attracted i find them to be. i guess its probably cause of my heavy capricorn stelium and my IC lust and aphrodite all in cap too, i am my own worst enemy i do have to say.


I think you answered your question. When you have a heavy stellium in one sign then you have that nature in you so you don't rub against "your kinds". But I do feel nemesis is very accurate. There needs to be more research on how it feels. Becoz that boy was her enemy throughout school and he hit her for no rhyme or reason. It was draco malfoy n hermoine relationship no emotions just hatred.

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posted July 04, 2015 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 07, 2015 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just found out that "Nemesis" was a woman, so it kind of changes a lot of things but I found the keyword that suits Nemesis the most. It is "Rivalry and Jealousy". When Nemesis is touched by a planet or angle in synastry then it sets "rivalry" in motion.

But natal conjunctions/oppositions/squares to Nemesis mean that you have that nature in you.

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posted July 07, 2015 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(mythology)

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posted July 07, 2015 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seimei:
Bump


where did my post about Nemesis disappear? I had mentioned that it translates into rivalry and jealousy.

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posted July 07, 2015 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 07, 2015 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nemesis is the goddess of retribution, she gives us what is our "due". Unfortunately that means often enough punishment and being "cut to size". I can understand how people can experience that as the enemy, though I haven`t made the same experiences.

The guy comes to mind whose Nemesis was conjunct my Sun while my Nemesis opposed his Moon.
It was not his fault, but he was the catalyst for painful experiences for me, that initially felt totally unfair, but overtime it made me reasses my own personal traits, and being a Sag Sun and having been so proud of my tolerant openness towards, well, pretty much anything, I came to realize through this catalyst, that true tolerance is NOT indifference and it also i ans being tested when applied to my PERSONAL life.
How tolerant am I really when it affects MY emotional and relational life?
I had to accept that there ARE limits to my tolerance, but with that acceptance curiously came relief and, well I suppose more natural tolerance and a more realistic view of myself.

I consider this guy to be one of the dearest soulmates in my life, also for that reason, for having taken on the role of my Nemesis for a while to point out my weaknesses to me, and I am eternally thankful for his gift to me.

Well that was MY Nemesis story.

(possibly I have other ones that were not that positive though; I sort of believe it helped that his Moon is trine my Sun, and our Nemesises are sextile each other and not doing too much nasty stuff in our natal charts either. Mine is conjunct my Uranus widely and trines my Black Moon. his conjuncts his Sun (btw we wer also meant to play Uranus to each other, his URanus squaring my Sun, my Uranus opposing his Moon. The quality of our Nemesis always was a liberating one, though being deliverd as a shock initially).
his Nemesis trines his Moon, and well squares his Uranus, which might be the nastiest aspect it makes in his chart, though it is very wide.

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posted July 07, 2015 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Nemesis is the goddess of retribution, she gives us what is our "due". Unfortunately that means often enough punishment and being "cut to size". I can understand how people can experience that as the enemy, though I haven`t made the same experiences.

The guy comes to mind whose Nemesis was conjunct my Sun while my Nemesis opposed his Moon.
It was not his fault, but he was the catalyst for painful experiences for me, that initially felt totally unfair, but overtime it made me reasses my own personal traits, and being a Sag Sun and having been so proud of my tolerant openness towards, well, pretty much anything, I came to realize through this catalyst, that true tolerance is NOT indifference and it also i ans being tested when applied to my PERSONAL life.
How tolerant am I really when it affects MY emotional and relational life?
I had to accept that there ARE limits to my tolerance, but with that acceptance curiously came relief and, well I suppose more natural tolerance and a more realistic view of myself.

I consider this guy to be one of the dearest soulmates in my life, also for that reason, for having taken on the role of my Nemesis for a while to point out my weaknesses to me, and I am eternally thankful for his gift to me.

Well that was MY Nemesis story.

(possibly I have other ones that were not that positive though; I sort of believe it helped that his Moon is trine my Sun, and our Nemesises are sextile each other and not doing too much nasty stuff in our natal charts either. Mine is conjunct my Uranus widely and trines my Black Moon. his conjuncts his Sun (btw we wer also meant to play Uranus to each other, his URanus squaring my Sun, my Uranus opposing his Moon. The quality of our Nemesis always was a liberating one, though being deliverd as a shock initially).
his Nemesis trines his Moon, and well squares his Uranus, which might be the nastiest aspect it makes in his chart, though it is very wide.


that is a nice story and it helps. But I would like to add a few things. Nemesis got my attention because one of my cousin's in her school days as 6-7 yr old was regularly beaten up by a boy. His Nemesis was conjunct her Dejanira and moon. They don't have hateful aspects otherwise, or should I say, Nemesis summed up the energy if there was any, which I think asteroid do. Another eg is a friend whose love life turned into a bitter rivalry her Mars opposes his Nemesis. Of course, all this teaches you to evolve but you cannot ignore these qualities of Nemesis (rivalry and jealousy) both of these qualities can also be used in a positive way. But when they are not, they can be really evil. I believe that a Nemesis and Planet person relationship is like Draco Malfoy and Hermione Granger. You can say, Nemesis stands against "excessive arrogance" to establish equilibrium. I can say that because in both cases the men were arrogant due to inflated ego and the girls tried to resist their arrogance to establish equilibrium.

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posted July 07, 2015 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is your Nemesis/Dejanira/whatever..ie the issue that comes up is in you..the other person is just a trigger/reflection. Did the boy get in trouble for beating your cousin? Her victim consciousness triggering his nemesis? Or perhaps they both learned something valuable with hindsight if not in first grade? (It was the "school bully" who accidentally taught me I had the power to defend myself and that those who appear big and tough are easily disarmed, and vulnerable.

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posted July 07, 2015 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just found out that I have Nemesis(12°40'46") and Dejanira(16° 7'52")in Pisces square Jupiter and Dejanira conjunct Saturn. My sun is in Pisces(21°31'25"). But the only people with whom I have had "problems" were Scorpio sun. One of those was my ex and he has Dejanira conjunct to my ascendant. My Dejanira is conjunct to his Saturn.(His) Nemesis square (My) Venus/Mars. He's the only guy who made me suffer a lot.
Sorry if I misspelled something, but this is not my 'mother tongue' and I am still learning.

The guy that I like now has Nemesis opposite my Venus and conjunct my Mars. I'm scared now.

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posted July 07, 2015 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seimei:
don't be scared.. but you may be a compulsion for him, many other connections are also happening some may soften the compulsion, TRUST YOUR HEART


Thank you! We have many good things in Synastry. What do you mean with "a compulsion for him"?. Could you give an example of a situation? or something. Please .

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posted July 08, 2015 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
I just found out that I have Nemesis(12°40'46") and Dejanira(16° 7'52")in Pisces square Jupiter and Dejanira conjunct Saturn. My sun is in Pisces(21°31'25"). But the only people with whom I have had "problems" were Scorpio sun. One of those was my ex and he has Dejanira conjunct to my ascendant. My Dejanira is conjunct to his Saturn.(His) Nemesis square (My) Venus/Mars. He's the only guy who made me suffer a lot.
Sorry if I misspelled something, but this is not my 'mother tongue' and I am still learning.

The guy that I like now has Nemesis opposite my Venus and conjunct my Mars. I'm scared now.


Don't be scared, there are two sides to Nemesis which is what I have discovered after starting this thread. Information always works. I did my research and here is what I have found Nemesis when negatively aspected or negatively prominent in the chart makes that person go for bitter rivalry and jealousy. When it is positively aspected or positively prominent then it works as the "restoring equilibrium agent angle", such Nemesis shows you the right path of cutting off excessive bad habits or qualities and becoming more down to earth person. She restores balance between the very powerful and the weak.

Having said that, I would want you to understand Mars hard aspects with Nemesis can be really tough. But you don't have to be scared just understand the issues, you will be stronger with every Nemesis experience. She gives you the ability to survive.

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