posted August 18, 2015 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Free Leon:
I haven't researched Lilith's mythology, but from what I have read it seems like Lilith's domain is raw creative energy, but the most immediate expression of that energy is sexual.

So a few questions arise: are we supposed to tame and utilize Lilith's creative energy, give it total freedom, or strike a balance between the two?

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Give it its freedom. The struggle with Lilith I believe comes from social surroundings.

posted August 18, 2015 06:30 PM            

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posted August 19, 2015 12:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Moving to Asteroid Astrology.

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I suppose you will always do this even though no one is discussing an asteroid because they continue to fail to call it the perigee of the moon,lol.

posted August 19, 2015 07:00 AM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Masochism? Care to explain how they are related?

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not masochism, the macho world

posted August 24, 2015 01:24 PM            

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Originally posted by bjorkstrand:
Should Lilith be considered as important?
if lilith = moon apogee

Yes

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posted August 25, 2015 07:02 PM            

The "true" is not included in a astro.com free software.

The "mean" is quite pronounced in my life.

posted August 25, 2015 07:42 PM            

Interestingly, I don't see her show up too actively in composite or synastry, yet composite Eros is big each and every time.

posted August 25, 2015 08:33 PM            

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Originally posted by bjorkstrand:
I use "mean".

The "true" is not included in a astro.com free software.

The "mean" is quite pronounced in my life.

You may notice that robin williams, michael brown and the isis victim all died when the sun conjuncted lilith last year in august.

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posted August 27, 2015 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
They say when certain planets are close to an angle the energy of that planet, sign, and house is drawn out more.

I have 0 degree Lilith in Sag, and a 0 degree Sag/Gem MC/IC axis. So does that mean these energies are bolstered extremely?

Im asking because I literally relate to nothing else in my chart more than this axis. Members on here are pretty used to me talking about this axis.

My 8 degree NN is conjunct my 10 degree ASC. And My Sun is 6 degrees away from my DSC so these are the lesser angle conjunctions..

But the thing is, I'm still not sure if Lilith should be mentioned compared to everything else. But i guess many of us underestimate anything that isn't regarded as a "planet"

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I do think even though it's not an important planet that if it's placement is in such an important spot in the chart it should be considered more.The Axis angles seem so important and things hovering around these angles help color the themes in the chart just as much as the major planetary aspects. I have a tight conjunction of two planets on my IC (different than yours because it's at my "root" which is more internally felt than yours lilith being on your MC which would play out in more of an external way). The type of energy felt from this conjunction at my IC I feel plays a really strong role in everything I do. I think lilith on your MC should be considered as important.

posted August 27, 2015 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by AstroAJ:
I do think even though it's not an important planet that if it's placement is in such an important spot in the chart it should be considered more.The Axis angles seem so important and things hovering around these angles help color the themes in the chart just as much as the major planetary aspects. I have a tight conjunction of two planets on my IC (different than yours because it's at my "root" which is more internally felt than yours lilith being on your MC which would play out in more of an external way). The type of energy felt from this conjunction at my IC I feel plays a really strong role in everything I do. I think lilith on your MC should be considered as important.

Lilith gets a negative rap. My take on it is that there is a light and a shadow side to every type of planetary energy. The shadow aspect that comes with lilith should not be feared. It's when we try to ignore the shadow side of things that gets us into trouble. It's not about avoiding these darker aspects, but learning how to use this type of energy to reach our highest potentials. The perspective I have on lilith is the shadow side of the divine feminine, untamed and wild. Sitting on your MC I would bet that many women, especially those that are better in touch with their wild feminine nature can sense this in you more easily.

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posted August 27, 2015 04:20 PM            

Untamed and wild related to the devine feminine = Uninhibited, not bending to social norms of what society asks of her. I read the myth is that Adam kicked her out of the garden and replaced her with Eve cause she wouldn't do what she was told.

"Her energy clear and raw, untamed and wild- the “***** ” who bows to no one."............

"Those who haven’t really completely accepted or embraced Lilith will continue to try to mold her around all these subservient “blender cocktails” roles and continue to discourage Lilith and her real bare bones ID energy."

These descriptions make sense to me I found them here: http://newmoonastrologyreadings.com/featured/dark-moon-lilith

posted August 27, 2015 04:25 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
I find it so interesting that you say this lol. Thanks for your incredible insight. But in your experience, can you tell what the good and bad sides to lilith are? Untamed and wild?

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posted August 27, 2015 04:57 PM            

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Originally posted by AstroAJ:
I guess it all depends on the perspective and what role you play in the situation as to wether you see the characteristics of lilith as good or bad. If Lilith wants to seek wrath over what isn't fair, and you're the one under her wrath, I guess it might be viewed as a bad thing.

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I agree, and yes it was great insight for me. I can say I've had to "repress" myself over the years. Mainly because I feel like I would push people over the edge. People tell me I have a very strong aura too btw. Everything is black or white and I just gotta accept the fact that some people will never understand who I truly am no matter how hard I try.

posted August 27, 2015 06:51 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Sexuality can be seen in many different ways. I see creativity as relative form of sexuality. I feel like every time i do research on lilith its always negative stuff lol

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