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Topic: Should Lilith be considered as important?
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NYCdodger
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posted August 17, 2015 06:52 PM
  
On Astrotheme.com Lilith is automatically seen on Natal charts as if it were a planet. But on Astrodienst.com you have to select it before it is seen.Should Lilith be something that is automatically seen like Chiron and the Nodes? Or is it a minor influence? I think my Lilith conjunct my MC/IC axis by an EXACT degree (closer than any other conjunction to any angle in my chart ) may explain why I am so Sagittarian/Geminiac The next would be my NN conjunct my ASC. But its by 1 degree. IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted August 17, 2015 08:07 PM
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Free Leon
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posted August 17, 2015 08:17 PM
I feel as though is it should be considered as an important placement. I can't offer a specific reason as to why, because it is just an intuitive feeling. All in all I relate very much to the descriptions of the sign and house placements of my Lilith. IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted August 17, 2015 08:22 PM
They say when certain planets are close to an angle the energy of that planet, sign, and house is drawn out more.I have 0 degree Lilith in Sag, and a 0 degree Sag/Gem MC/IC axis. So does that mean these energies are bolstered extremely? Im asking because I literally relate to nothing else in my chart more than this axis. Members on here are pretty used to me talking about this axis. My 8 degree NN is conjunct my 10 degree ASC. And My Sun is 6 degrees away from my DSC so these are the lesser angle conjunctions.. But the thing is, I'm still not sure if Lilith should be mentioned compared to everything else. But i guess many of us underestimate anything that isn't regarded as a "planet" IP: Logged |
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posted August 17, 2015 08:30 PM
It is important, but not as important as the other planets.
It helps finishing a chart, giving a bit more depth, but shouldn't be addressed before other, more major aspects.
This is my intuitive understanding, and it may be slightly wrong in the way that, if lilith is very prominent in the chart, it may be right to focus on it from the start.
In my chart it's a lesser thing to be concerned with, not as major as any other aspects I still have to decipher and properly understand, so it's taking a bit of a behind-the-curtain role.
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Free Leon
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posted August 17, 2015 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
I have 0 degree Lilith in Sag, and a 0 degree Sag/Gem MC/IC axis. So does that mean these energies are bolstered extremely?
Well with that proximity to the angle I'd say the Sagittarius Lilith energy is an integral part of your persona. Maybe "the public" sees you as a controversial sex symbol, or you're a person with controversial/unique views towards sex. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 17, 2015 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
On Astrotheme.com Lilith is automatically seen on Natal charts as if it were a planet. But on Astrodienst.com you have to select it before it is seen.Should Lilith be something that is automatically seen like Chiron and the Nodes? Or is it a minor influence? I think my Lilith conjunct my MC/IC axis by an EXACT degree (closer than any other conjunction to any angle in my chart ) may explain why I am so Sagittarian/Geminiac The next would be my NN conjunct my ASC. But its by 1 degree.
Lilith conj the ASC or MC is super sexy. I ask people to send me their pics when they have this and they are sexy in an effortless way lol
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NYCdodger
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posted August 17, 2015 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by RoseLily:
It is important, but not as important as the other planets.
It helps finishing a chart, giving a bit more depth, but shouldn't be addressed before other, more major aspects.
This is my intuitive understanding, and it may be slightly wrong in the way that, if lilith is very prominent in the chart, it may be right to focus on it from the start.
In my chart it's a lesser thing to be concerned with, not as major as any other aspects I still have to decipher and properly understand, so it's taking a bit of a behind-the-curtain role.
I can't see anything impacting me as much as this. Plus its 0 degrees. Thats when the energy is very pure IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted August 17, 2015 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by Free Leon:
Well with that proximity to the angle I'd say the Sagittarius Lilith energy is an integral part of your persona. Maybe "the public" sees you as a controversial sex symbol, or you're a person with controversial/unique views towards sex.
It goes beyond just sex. People have been quick to judge me all my life. I either naturally draw people to me or I intimidate them (but its never intentional) IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted August 17, 2015 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lilith conj the ASC or MC is super sexy. I ask people to send me their pics when they have this and they are sexy in an effortless way lol
Well you've already seen my pics so....... lol IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 17, 2015 10:24 PM
Yes, you look like a Lilith conj the ASC or MC lolWatch this in charts and you will see what I mean. It is not looks as much as a natural sexiness. I am not saying the people are not attractive because they are but the sexual charisma is super high lol ------------------
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posted August 17, 2015 10:31 PM
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Yes, you look like a Lilith conj the ASC or MC lolWatch this in charts and you will see what I mean. It is not looks as much as a natural sexiness. I am not saying the people are not attractive because they are but the sexual charisma is super high lol
Lol I will. So is Lilith something one should be quick to consider and is it just as potent to ones life as the planets? Like, if someone is said to be "Saturn" ruled, could that also apply to Lilith and Chiron? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 18, 2015 09:05 AM
Well, I can't say Lilith is AS important as Saturn. However, if there is a very close conjunction, it is strong for a person. Lilith is raw sexuality. So, for the Lilith person, that theme would be important and play out in various ways.------------------
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ail221
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posted August 18, 2015 09:12 AM
If Lilith is on a important part of your natal chart it's should be considered important for you.IP: Logged |
Free Leon
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posted August 18, 2015 09:16 AM
I haven't researched Lilith's mythology, but from what I have read it seems like Lilith's domain is raw creative energy, but the most immediate expression of that energy is sexual. So a few questions arise: are we supposed to tame and utilize Lilith's creative energy, give it total freedom, or strike a balance between the two? IP: Logged |
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posted August 18, 2015 09:32 AM
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TensionEmpire
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posted August 18, 2015 11:32 AM
Of course! It's the most discussed topic here on Asteroid Astrology
And now adays it gets big because it eats maschismIP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 18, 2015 11:41 AM
Just thinking about this. I am not attracted to women, so can't say the subtleties of women when it comes to this.However, for men, the Lilith conj the ASC or MC has a playful vibe about him, rather than a serious sultry vibe. Eros conj the ASC has a serious sultry vibe. Venus aspecting the ASC is more of a girl next door look than a sultry or sexy look. I have Venus trine the ASC. I feel I am more wholesome looking--girl next door  ------------------
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NYCdodger
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posted August 18, 2015 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well, I can't say Lilith is AS important as Saturn. However, if there is a very close conjunction, it is strong for a person. Lilith is raw sexuality. So, for the Lilith person, that theme would be important and play out in various ways.
Sexuality can be seen in many different ways. I see creativity as relative form of sexuality. I feel like every time i do research on lilith its always negative stuff lol IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted August 18, 2015 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by ail221:
If Lilith is on a important part of your natal chart it's should be considered important for you.
Thats the thing though. No conjunction to an angle is as tight as my Lilith on my Midheaven. I know whatever touches the angle, bolsters its energy, as well as the sign qualities. I guess I'm tryna figure out what to do with this Lilith chick lol. Its starting to make sense though, I relate to the sign of Sag/Gem very easily especially in synastry IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted August 18, 2015 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Just thinking about this. I am not attracted to women, so can't say the subtleties of women, when it comes to this.However, for men, the Lilith conj the ASC or MC has a playful vibe about him, rather than a serious sultry vibe. Eros conj the ASC has a serious sultry vibe. Venus aspecting the ASC is more of a girl next door look than a sultry or sexy look. I have Venus trine the ASC. I feel I am more wholesome looking--girl next door
I have Eros opposite my MC (which means it conjuncts my IC) Venus quincunxes my ASC IP: Logged |
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posted August 18, 2015 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
Of course! It's the most discussed topic here on Asteroid Astrology
And now adays it gets big because it eats maschism
Masochism? Care to explain how they are related? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 18, 2015 12:49 PM
Yes, I think Lilith can fuel creativity. Look at Amy Winehouse------------------
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ail221
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posted August 18, 2015 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Thats the thing though. No conjunction to an angle is as tight as my Lilith on my Midheaven. I know whatever touches the angle, bolsters its energy, as well as the sign qualities. I guess I'm tryna figure out what to do with this Lilith chick lol. Its starting to make sense though, I relate to the sign of Sag/Gem very easily especially in synastry
You don't do anything with her, she just sort of exists. She's more so raw rebellious energy. Lilith has a deep connection with human sexuality and she doesn't rely on what is considered the norms regarding sexuality, if you were to work in more so the social-politics of the world she'd probably be a activist for those of varied sexuality and a champion of decriminalizing sex work. IP: Logged |
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posted August 18, 2015 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by ail221:
You don't do anything with her, she just sort of exists. She's more so raw rebellious energy. Lilith has a deep connection with human sexuality and she doesn't rely on what is considered the norms regarding sexuality, if you were to work in more so the social-politics of the world she'd probably be a activist for those of varied sexuality and a champion of decriminalizing sex work.
Yes I know. And she's obviously sitting high and mighty at the top of my chart for an obvious reason, and I don't know WHY. My True Lilith is 0 degrees Sag and it conjuncts my 0 degree Sag MC. BUT my Mean Lilith is 29 degrees Scorpio and it also conjuncts my 0 degree Sag MC. So I'm getting double lilith action at the top of my chart. She must love me :-) IP: Logged |
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