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hypatia238
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posted September 30, 2015 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the denial is due to self sabotage and by the time the person learns to not self sabotage its too late so they have to settle for second choice but the power is always in them so the denial is ultimately self denial, is that the area in our lives that we in an unconscious level are trying to punish ourselves with bc we feel unworthy in some level of that kind of happiness?? I really think so...

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posted September 30, 2015 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
Takes away the seriousness of the thread

Dick in Taurus conjunct Dark moon within minutes lmao


😯😱😂

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posted September 30, 2015 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Well, you know, after she left Adam, she got with Dick.

... Oh, wait. That didn't happen at all.


Lol!! I'm sure she got with plenty of dicks after Adam, which is the real reason why she's so jaded! Poor thing! 😡😁😢

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posted September 30, 2015 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LOL or did it? I think that chapter might have been burned so we shall never know....

Maaaauaaahahaha


😱 Wow!!
So now we know why woman can't find a good man after her first love...it's human nature! Written in the lost scriptures that after we leave our first love all guys are dicks! Lol

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posted September 30, 2015 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
[b]I think the denial is due to self sabotage and by the time the person learns to not self sabotage its too late so they have to settle for second choice but the power is always in them so the denial is ultimately self denial, is that the area in our lives that we in an unconscious level are trying to punish ourselves with bc we feel unworthy in some level of that kind of happiness?? I really think so...[/B]

Yes this is how I see it also! It's funny my Waldemath squares my libra AC/Sado/Deprez/Pluto/Einstein/Discovery....I wonder if that why I like to search and research the asteroids that are our self sabataging(part of Sado's issues) leading to our destruction, depression and hopefully a rebirth.

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posted September 30, 2015 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
😱 Wow!!
So now we know why woman can't find a good man after her first love...it's human nature! Written in the lost scriptures that after we leave our first love all guys are dicks! Lol

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posted September 30, 2015 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is pretty much a dick move though,

" Lilith, however, considering herself to be Adam's equal, refused, and after pronouncing the Ineffable Name (i.e. the magic name of God) flew off into the air.

Adam, distraught and no doubt also angered by her insolent behaviour, wanted her back. On Adam's request, God sent three angels, named Senoy, Sansenoy, and Semangelof, who found her in the Red Sea. Despite the threat from the three angels that if she didn't return to Adam one hundred of her sons would die every day, she refused, claiming that she was created expressly to harm newborn infants. However, she did swear that she would not harm any infant wearing an amulet with the images and/or names of the three angels on it." http://witcombe.sbc.edu/eve-women/7evelilith.html

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posted September 30, 2015 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
This is pretty much a dick move though,

" Lilith, however, considering herself to be Adam's equal, refused, and after pronouncing the Ineffable Name (i.e. the magic name of God) flew off into the air.

Adam, distraught and no doubt also angered by her insolent behaviour, wanted her back. On Adam's request, God sent three angels, named Senoy, Sansenoy, and Semangelof, who found her in the Red Sea. Despite the threat from the three angels that if she didn't return to Adam one hundred of her sons would die every day, she refused, claiming that she was created expressly to harm newborn infants. However, she did swear that she would not harm any infant wearing an amulet with the images and/or names of the three angels on it." http://witcombe.sbc.edu/eve-women/7evelilith.html


That is a dick move...and what baby wears an amulet? Lol

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posted October 01, 2015 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Im sorry I know it's hard!
Making choices that actually have potential to make you happy instead of continuing to return to the ones that have proven to be negative and ppl who are unwilling to treat you with respect and value you, it only hurts you. They won't change unless you stop accepting their abuse and walk away, maybe even after that they won't change. But that doesn't matter...only you and your happiness matter!
You deserve better, its their loss not yours!! I'm so glad have other choices for a better family! You deserve to be loved and appreciated everyday!


Thank you! Wow it's amazing how good it feels to hear that from someone. You know sometimes the negative self-talk creeps in and tells you that maybe you do deserve the abuse. It's very hard to escape that, thank you for the extra-reassurance.

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posted October 03, 2015 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need to find more about Waldemath definitevely. It's in the 11th sextile my moon.

Plus, in a synastry I have a 0š Waldemath/Waldemath sextile, meaning the guy also has his Wal. conjunct my moon.
My Wal is on his Chiron...not if it's good or bad

I'm really curious know. Since, I already have a ton of BML aspects with him.
There's a theme here :-D

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posted October 03, 2015 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
Thank you! Wow it's amazing how good it feels to hear that from someone. You know sometimes the negative self-talk creeps in and tells you that maybe you do deserve the abuse. It's very hard to escape that, thank you for the extra-reassurance.



You don't deserve their abuse! You deserve to kick them in the nose, lol!! I think everyone would be ok with that, probably the universe would give you a big pat on the back and say good job! 😱☺️😜

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posted October 03, 2015 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 03, 2015 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Piscean Tigress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She is square my Mercury and IC.

Itīs conjunct my SO Venus and Conjuct Mars and Trine Venus to an ex-friend I met online... Both showed some kind of sexual obssesion with me (even I never meet in person my ex-friend online), and I can't really understand why until today

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posted December 03, 2015 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseastar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Black Moon Lilith lies in 7th House and Cancer:

- Quincux AC exact (Sagittarius)
- Square Chiron (1S) (Libra 10th)
- Biquintile Pluto exact (Sagittarius 12th)

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posted December 03, 2015 12:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
[b]I think the denial is due to self sabotage and by the time the person learns to not self sabotage its too late so they have to settle for second choice but the power is always in them so the denial is ultimately self denial, is that the area in our lives that we in an unconscious level are trying to punish ourselves with bc we feel unworthy in some level of that kind of happiness?? I really think so...[/B]

Damn. This is so true.

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posted December 03, 2015 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I just noticed my Waldemath is exact on the 7th house vertex in the composite chart I shared with an ex.
I got pregnant and for no apparent reason we lost the baby when I was 4 months along. It's was very traumatic for both of us, they had to induce labor because my body was still acting as if the baby was alive...we broke up a few months after all the stress of that. A year and half later he committed suicide.

Oh God...so sorry Gabby.

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posted December 03, 2015 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Angular houses-
1st will be denial of physical and/or personal good
4th will be denial of family and/ or father
7th will be denial of the partner and/or enemy
10th will be denial of the employer and/or mother

I have 5 Scorpio Waldemath Lilith conjunct 6 Scorpio Uranus-Hekate. In the 4H.

Denial of family. Well it's a long story, but that applies, to a certain extent.

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posted December 04, 2015 03:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just passed over this thread a few times and then finally I entered.
Shortly thereafter I went to astro and found
my h58 at 11sa38,, and where was the t.Sun when I went and did that? 11sa38
The irony of astrology.

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posted December 04, 2015 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love when stuff like that happens!

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posted December 21, 2016 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Soltze:
I need to find more about Waldemath definitevely. It's in the 11th sextile my moon.

Plus, in a synastry I have a 0š Waldemath/Waldemath sextile, meaning the guy also has his Wal. conjunct my moon.
My Wal is on his Chiron...not if it's good or bad

I'm really curious know. Since, I already have a ton of BML aspects with him.
There's a theme here :-D



So was it good or bad? Curious about Waldemath aspects, especially with female relationships.

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I donīt believe in denial of anything. Not in the sense that it is a "final statement".

I believe however in the modification of wants, and getting in what you really need instead of what you THINK you want or deserve.

The distinction can teach a lot of humbleness or make you feel angry.


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Mine is on 26 Leo at the cusp of 9th house.

No denial there though.

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posted December 22, 2016 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 22, 2016 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Waldemath in the 7th. :/
I guess it got me in my realtionships..

But she also got it in her 7th, opposing mine!
what do you think, can we neutralized her??

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I donīt believe in denial of anything. Not in the sense that it is a "final statement".

I believe however in the modification of wants, and getting in what you really need instead of what you THINK you want or deserve.

The distinction can teach a lot of humbleness or make you feel angry.


This completely makes sense with where mine is placed. Thank you.

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