posted March 30, 2016 11:02 PM            

Don’t leave home without your asteroid list. Plug these words into any chart to learn more.

1. Nessus 7066 ( abuse/abuser)

2. Dejanira 57 (victim)

3. Blewit 22927 (screwed up/made a mistake)

4. Lilith 1181 (hot/sexy in a wild way )

5. Eros 433 (erotic)

6. Fatme 866 ( weight issues)

7. Echo 60 ( dependent, no core and people pleasing)

8. Medusa 149 ( tease)

9. Lucifer 1930 ( arrogance/pride/know it all)

10. Medea 212 ( strikes back much WORSE than the original betrayal)

11. Zavist 7440 (jealous/envious)

12. Vesta 4 (sacrificial giver)

13. Valentine 447 (Loves without bounds)

14 Juno 3 ( loyal and devoted partner

15. Maniac 228029 ( mood issues/mood disorder)

16. Alice 291 ( stable in a crazy world)

17. Madhatter 6735 ( driven crazy by others and blamed for it)

18. Chaos 19521 ( stirring up trouble)

19.Angel 11911 ( blessing to others)

20. Sedna 90377 ( betrayal by men)

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posted March 31, 2016 07:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Vixen:
Echo and Maniac conjunct Mars/DSC
Madhatter conjunct ASC
*sigh*

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Did you have a life in which people tried to take away your reality, V?

My client with Maniac on the DSC gets guys who have lots of emotional/mood issues. Do you? lol

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posted March 31, 2016 09:12 AM            

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posted March 31, 2016 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
I remember I have Vesta conjunct Angel . It sounds nice? I guess .
In Gemini 27- 2h, trine Mercury, semisextile Moon.

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It IS nice, Mila dear!

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posted March 31, 2016 05:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It IS nice, Mila dear!

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posted March 31, 2016 06:29 PM            

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posted April 01, 2016 07:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Vixen:
I have Angel conjunct Vesta too. But a tons of '94 kids have this

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Yes, some aspects are for a whole generation.

I don't have the time and energy to study which ones lol

I think it may make everyone have the trait but it will not be as personally elucidating as things that are just for you such as Vesta conj the ASC, NN, Moon etc

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posted April 08, 2016 07:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Angel conjunct Vesta is not generational, unless they "walk in step", which would be an interesting thing in itself.

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posted April 08, 2016 08:36 AM            

Echo - no core?

Ami, everyone has a core.

Edit

posted April 08, 2016 08:39 AM            

7066, 157, 22927, 1181, 433, 866, 149, 1930, 212, 7440
4, 447, 3, 228029, 291, 6735, 19521, 11911, 90377

posted April 09, 2016 07:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[b]Angel conjunct Vesta is not generational, unless they "walk in step", which would be an interesting thing in itself.

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Examples for generational ones would be

Sedna, Eris, Orcus, Chaos, pretty much all centaurs,

the asteroids in the belt between Mars and Jupiter, usually are not that generational (though it depends, most are a bit slower than Mars, but faster than Jupiter), Eros is VERY quick, he has an orbit of only appr. 1,7 years (Mars` orbit is 2 years, so Eros is usually even a little quicker).

The others often have an orbit of 4-5 years, as I said slower than Mars (2 years) but faster than Jupiter (12 years)

Examples:

Ceres: 4,6 years
Juno: 4,36 years
Vesta: 3,63 years
Psyche: 5 years
Sappho: 3,48 years
Cupido: 3,35 years
Amor: 2,66 years

and so on
http://www.falconastrology.com/astro_compatibility.htm

Sedna has an orbit of about 10,5-12.000 years (!)

Eris: about 558 years
(Pluto has an orbit of about 248 years)

Chaos: 309 years

Chiron: about 50 years

To me Chiron is generational, definitely while the others I mentioned like Eris or Chaos or Sedna are not even generational anymore, but extending this.

this is important in terms of orbs, though we have to consider the quick asteroids (the `Amores` between Mars and Jupiter) as well as personal planets are moving faster and they will make aspects to the really slow ones, but seriously. Sedna is pretty much like a fixed star in terms of motion.

posted April 09, 2016 07:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

I hope people won't use asteroids like weapons.

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posted April 16, 2016 06:24 PM            

Some of these, like Nessus and Dejanira, are well-substantiated by other astrologers; you clearly understand these asteroids even if you overstate their significance. The Greek, Egyptian, etc. asteroids are generally more archetypal and easier to figure out. Same thing for asteroids named after celebrities, historical figures, famous literary figures, etc. So I'm not going to argue about those.

But some of the others? I hope you don't pull a muscle, 'cause you're reaching.

Blewett was named after Megan Marie Blewett, a finalist in the 2007 Intel Science Talent Search. This woman is clearly very intelligent and did not "blow it!"

Fatme does not equal "fat + me." It's the name of a character in the opera Abu Hassan. It's derived from the Arabic name Fatima.

Zavist is actually Závist, an archeological site in Bohemia known for its preservation of Celtic history in the Czech Republic (soon to be Czechia).

Valentine is named after the daughter of Baron Albert von Rothschild. I don't blame you for seeing a connection there, but the same name does not always refer to the same thing in two different contexts.

None of these things are difficult to fact-check. Wikipedia has a long list of minor planets with the true etymology of their names. Astronomers don't name them arbitrarily; they often represent something important to the astronomer. (For instance, in the case of Závist, the astrologer was also from Bohemia and was expressing his local pride, so maybe it has something to do with patriotism or a passion for history.) So you have to understand the astronomer as well to get a hint into why they might have chosen that meaning.

Lastly. Just because someone has a certain aspect in their chart does NOT mean they will certainly develop a certain trait, especially to a certain extreme. In genetics, you learn that most traits in humans are complex, in that they are the outcome of many, many genes interacting with each other and the environment. We all have unique mutations, but most of them don't have any perceptible influence on our phenotype. However, if we have a lot of mutations of a certain type, in a certain place, then we become more likely to express that trait. But simply having Nessus close on the ASC does not make me an abuser. Now, if there was a consistent trend of minor planets all pointing to the same thing, then further investigation is warranted, but individual "mutations" that aren't a major theme in the chart probably have imperceptible influence on the person's life.

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posted April 17, 2016 08:06 AM            

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Originally posted by deepseastar:
Sorry, but my Sag/Pluto ASC isn't letting me be quiet anymore. Some of these interpretations are unsubstantiated and, given the false etymology, probably very, very wrong. Has it ever occurred to you that the entirety of Earth's astrological events do not center around the arbitrary interpretations derived from one period of the English language?

Some of these, like Nessus and Dejanira, are well-substantiated by other astrologers; you clearly understand these asteroids even if you overstate their significance. The Greek, Egyptian, etc. asteroids are generally more archetypal and easier to figure out. Same thing for asteroids named after celebrities, historical figures, famous literary figures, etc. So I'm not going to argue about those.

But some of the others? I hope you don't pull a muscle, 'cause you're reaching.

Blewett was named after Megan Marie Blewett, a finalist in the 2007 Intel Science Talent Search. This woman is clearly very intelligent and did not "blow it!"

Fatme does not equal "fat + me." It's the name of a character in the opera Abu Hassan. It's derived from the Arabic name Fatima.

Zavist is actually Závist, an archeological site in Bohemia known for its preservation of Celtic history in the Czech Republic (soon to be Czechia).

Valentine is named after the daughter of Baron Albert von Rothschild. I don't blame you for seeing a connection there, but the same name does not always refer to the same thing in two different contexts.

None of these things are difficult to fact-check. Wikipedia has a long list of minor planets with the true etymology of their names. Astronomers don't name them arbitrarily; they often represent something important to the astronomer. (For instance, in the case of Závist, the astrologer was also from Bohemia and was expressing his local pride, so maybe it has something to do with patriotism or a passion for history.) So you have to understand the astronomer as well to get a hint into why they might have chosen that meaning.

Lastly. Just because someone has a certain aspect in their chart does NOT mean they will certainly develop a certain trait, especially to a certain extreme. In genetics, you learn that most traits in humans are complex, in that they are the outcome of many, many genes interacting with each other and the environment. We all have unique mutations, but most of them don't have any perceptible influence on our phenotype. However, if we have a lot of mutations of a certain type, in a certain place, then we become more likely to express that trait. But simply having Nessus close on the ASC does not make me an abuser. Now, if there was a consistent trend of minor planets all pointing to the same thing, then further investigation is warranted, but individual "mutations" that aren't a major theme in the chart probably have imperceptible influence on the person's life.

Look, as a Taurus I understand the importance of strong opinions and sticking to your guns, but your opinion doesn't automatically deserve respect just because it's important to you. Your opinions ought to be held to the same standard of evidence as everyone else's, and if you can't reach it, then maybe you should rethink your opinion. I don't doubt that you're experienced, but that doesn't mean you can't go wrong sometimes. If you can't look past your personal biases and wounds, and continue to let them color your analysis, and never consider the viewpoints of others, you are going to alienate a lot of people who might miss out on some otherwise interesting astrology.

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Thank you, deepseastar! I know that took courage to write.

posted April 20, 2016 07:39 PM            

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Originally posted by diamondbaby:
What a great list!

I have Angel conjunct Ceres in Libra. They form a sextile with my Leo Jupiter and Sagittarius Sun/Venus.

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Lovely, my Friend.

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