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Ami Anne
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posted December 29, 2016 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lilith
Lilith(11811) is raw sexuality. I see Lilith as a rather simple (but important)sphere of life and that sphere of life is raw sexuality. I use the asteroid Lilith. I have not been able to figure out the other varieties” of Lilith, such as Black Moon Lilith. I gave up and deal with the asteroid Lilith. I suppose one could apply the information in this article to the many forms of Lilith.

Lilith Conjunct the Ascendant
Everything I write about, I have experienced. I study the masters, BUT I trust my experience doing charts. I study the myths related to the asteroids, BUT I trust what my clients tell me about their placements. As far as Lilith is concerned, my experience with her is as follows. Lilith conjunct the Ascendant is a very sexy person, who looks very, very magnetic, in an animal magnetism sort of way. She enjoys her sexuality and “plays it”. If I was an incredible guitarist, which I am not, I would PLAY it. The Lilith conjunct the Ascendant knows that she is sexy as heck and she “works it”.

Lilith Conjunct the IC

I cannot get an understanding of this placement. In terms of astrological theory, I would think it was a native who became “sexual” too fast, in the manner of a Jon Benet Ramsey, although I have not seen her chart. However, none of my clients can confirm this, so I put it out there for your consideration.

Lilith Conjunct the Descendant

This native may be attracted to partners who are very sexually alluring. The natives may repress his own sexuality, but I cannot say that for a fact. I can say that the angle of the Descendant may make for a native who represses the planets or asteroids that lie therein and attempts to find these traits in the partner.

Lilith Conjunct the MC
This native is very interesting because she is very sexy and very magnetic, but does not seem to like the attention. She seems to be someone who wants to be appreciated for something other than sexual appeal, such as her mind. Go figure.I have found this to be the case, time and time again.

Lilith Conjunct the South Node
This native is, likely, very comfortable with her sexuality.

Lilith Conjunct the North Node

That which conjuncts the North Node is that to which we aspire. Hence, the native with Lilith conjunct the North Node may struggle with her sexuality, at first, but find that it is a trait that she must master. Hence, one purpose of her life is to be comfortable with this sphere of her human nature.

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posted December 29, 2016 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Ami,
what do you mean become sexual too fast?
because i have it cnj the IC

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posted December 29, 2016 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
Hey Ami,
what do you mean become sexual too fast?
because i have it cnj the IC

Like with Jon benet, they made her into a sexual object when she was really young, that kind of thing, TE

I don't have it but my mother would tell me about sexual things that grossed me out, when I was a little kid, so I had to grow up too fast, so that could be another example, TE.

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posted December 29, 2016 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Lilith - the BML - conjunct my DSC and Sun and South Node.
I'm not repressing my sexuality, it's up to par. Or so I think.
There is a lot other things with Lilith and the DSC than what you said and one of it is unwillingness to submit to a partner (dsc) but expect total submission from them.

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posted December 29, 2016 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it is conj the SUN and SN, Orange, these are power positions.

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posted December 29, 2016 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, 1.5 degree from the Sun-DSC, 2.5 degrees from South Node

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posted December 29, 2016 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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She enjoys her sexuality and “plays it”. If I was an incredible guitarist, which I am not, I would PLAY it. The Lilith conjunct the Ascendant knows that she is sexy as heck and she “works it”.

So funny you should say this. My friend... he has 1181 Lilith conjunct his ascendant, is a mean guitar player, and he definitely knows how to work it.

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posted December 29, 2016 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My BML is also conjunct my IC and Part of Fortune. Haven't quite figured out what this means. Wasn't sexualized as a child, but did have premature exposure to everything as most kids growing up these days do...

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posted December 29, 2016 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea, maybe it is children that are exposed to too much. With the IC, people don't, usually, tell me about it when I do charts, which is interesting, cuz they tell me about the other angles.

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posted December 29, 2016 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting about the guitar, Yung!

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posted December 29, 2016 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for apollo6284     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, would a 4 degree orb to the MC still be valid? Either way, I'd rather be liked for my mind anyways haha!

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posted December 30, 2016 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Interesting about the guitar, Yung!


You're right about the oozing sexual charisma also... it's annoying to say the least.

I have Lilith conjunct my ascendant too but it's too wide, 5 degrees. It's conjunct his Pluto/Hygieia exact though. And in composite it is conjunct Vertex exact.

And we're trying to be friends! Ha!

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posted December 30, 2016 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by apollo6284:
Hmm, would a 4 degree orb to the MC still be valid? Either way, I'd rather be liked for my mind anyways haha!

Prolly too wide, A, but it could be felt in am ambient way, perhaps

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posted January 01, 2017 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus cnj my IC by the other side.
I don`t guess I have been sexualized early.
I have never trully expressed it actually.
Mabe because Uranus is there

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posted January 01, 2017 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TE

What do you have conjunct the IC and the orbs? xx

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Lilith Conjunct the MC
This native is very interesting because she is very sexy and very magnetic, but does not seem to like the attention. She seems to be someone who wants to be appreciated for something other than sexual appeal, such as her mind. Go figure.I have found this to be the case, time and time again.

got this exact! to the degree !
i have this one Ami Anne in Cancer. i agree with this 100%! i defently want to be appreciated for my knowledge rather then my figure, i often dress and cover my body because I'm aware on how comfortable i get when i dress revealing, men often are always staring i hate it!!! i give them the evil look!!! stay away...!


however it is making a grand cross with other asteroids in my chart.
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posted January 01, 2017 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Angel

Thanks for that report. I find that to be the case with my clients who have Lilith conj the MC

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posted January 01, 2017 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see Lilith as the empowered feminine, one who is prepared to battle like a man for her rights, independence, choices and dignity. Lilith refuses to ruled, so raw, yes, but I feel she is about far more than just sexuality. She is like the antidote to male chauvinism.

I have her conjunct the Sun almost exact.

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posted January 01, 2017 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see her that way, Voix, but I know some people do.

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I see Lilith as the empowered feminine, one who is prepared to battle like a man for her rights, independence, choices and dignity. Lilith refuses to ruled, so raw, yes, but I feel she is about far more than just sexuality. She is like the antidote to male chauvinism.

I have her conjunct the Sun almost exact.


I have BML conjunct my Sun by about 2 degrees (true BML..."mean" BML is hardly conjunct by 4 degrees). But she's also opposite my Moon, which I feel weakens her position. I haven't looked much into BML opposite Moon, but I think I'll try to dig up some info on that. Kind of an annoying paradox, it seems just at first glance. -_-

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posted January 02, 2017 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Voix

Can you explain the Liliths to me, and the differences in each, in a simple way?

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I've always referred to this article for Lilith basics, personally. Pretty simple, in my opinion. A quick, easy read.

http://darkstarastrology.com/triple-moon-goddess-lilith-astrology/

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posted January 03, 2017 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Voix

Can you explain the Liliths to me, and the differences in each, in a simple way?


I'm not sure about the different Liliths Ami. I use the asteroid and interpret this the same way we would with other asteroids, using the myth.
If we consider Lilith's relationship with Adam, we can see the qualities I mentioned. I am only one chart, I know, but I do feel these are qualities I have integrated into my sun, so they make sense to me.

I feel viewing Lilith as purely sexual is quite the opposite from what she believed herself to be based on the myth. Lilith felt she was an equal to Adam in all ways, and refused to be objectified or subjugated. This I believe was a state of mind that spanned all aspects of personal independence, not just free sexuality.

I don't actually recall anything about sexuality in the myth at all, however, there is no way Lilith would regard herself as *belonging* to anyone unless it was her choice.

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Ami Anne how would you describe a gentlemen with Lilith and Zeus conjunct north node in the 12th house?

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I'm not sure about the different Liliths Ami. I use the asteroid and interpret this the same way we would with other asteroids, using the myth.
If we consider Lilith's relationship with Adam, we can see the qualities I mentioned. I am only one chart, I know, but I do feel these are qualities I have integrated into my sun, so they make sense to me.

I feel viewing Lilith as purely sexual is quite the opposite from what she believed herself to be based on the myth. Lilith felt she was an equal to Adam in all ways, and refused to be objectified or subjugated. This I believe was a state of mind that spanned all aspects of personal independence, not just free sexuality.

I don't actually recall anything about sexuality in the myth at all, however, there is no way Lilith would regard herself as *belonging* to anyone unless it was her choice.


I can see this, true she is not just all about free sexuality she is about equality sexually emotionally and mentally.

I don't see her as slutty unless she is slutty I would say she promotes women to express there sexuality however there sexuality is by looking at mars Venus or 8th house placements. Also there is also asteroids that define w h o r e s but I forgot those asteroids what there called. Lilith is just one part of the picture.
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