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MoonMystic
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posted August 07, 2019 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 07, 2019 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@MoonMystic:


exactly, if that's who you want to reach out to you can use any of those and get the same result though some people prefer to use specific masks for specific purposes because it improves their focus

yeah i've encountered people where there's been immediate animosity and in occult situations it's either connected to past life stuff or them responding to my energy in a negative way

i can get very negative reactions from certain occultists particularly ones that have beliefs about non human souls being in human bodies and go on about hybrids and the like, which i'm admittedly ignorant about the extent of their beliefs or what they think i just know when i run into them i can get very negative responses (i've heard "i can't wait for the war so i can kill you" a lot lol) so it's not always past life for me but definitely in some cases it has been

i've only looked at my part of fortune otherwise no i haven't, as for demons well i know for sure asmodeus (asteroid) is on my pluto but otherwise no i'm not very into looking into angels and demons (though people who are have been weird with me about demon **** , that's part of the negativity tbh so it's funny that you brought that up) so i wouldn't really know where to start

i've had meditation and dream experiences related to deer and snakes in particular though there's been other animals that have come up to a lesser extent as passing symbolism

i've had a couple experience using a ouija board revolving around my ex fiancee's sister, but i don't regularly use those or bother with them, we did it because we felt a presence and wanted to know what was up with that

she's weird in the sense that she can have all these experiences and believe deeply one minute and then the next just push them aside and try to actively push them away (like she has with all the promises we've made to each other)

i definitely have enough content, it's putting altogether and knowing how to even manage that that's prevented me from doing that

when things are so nonlinear and there's no real beginning the lines all blur and it gets hard to know how to handle it

2012 was definitely the point of no return for me though

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posted August 07, 2019 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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interesting, guess we started talking for a reason, always nice when that happens

feels like it means something, and tends to mean things will pick up in some manner, which i could use i was getting bored

if you want to make it easier on yourself with checking ****

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posted August 07, 2019 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm working on my reply to all I've yet to respond and I got your natal data if you need to delete it. Thank you. I'll bb very soon.

.. There's a 53minute conflict between your shared and the time given. Which should I use?

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posted August 07, 2019 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what do you mean? there shouldn't be a conflict i use 10:23 am for everything always

i use lahiri for sidereal if thats what's causing an issue

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posted August 07, 2019 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 07, 2019 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
what do you mean? there shouldn't be a conflict i use 10:23 am for everything always

i use lahiri for sidereal if thats what's causing an issue


Oic, that's why. Sorry.

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posted August 07, 2019 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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MoonMystic:


interesting, guess we started talking for a reason, always nice when that happens

feels like it means something, and tends to mean things will pick up in some manner, which i could use i was getting bored

if you want to make it easier on yourself with checking ****



I agree, interesting.

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posted August 07, 2019 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@MoonMystic

yeah i tend to just go with whatever feels right and see if it works or what the results will be, or if something comes up i give it a shot because i can't see a reason not to

it'll either work or it won't and i'll learn something in the process

even that calling dream with dionysus when the witch told me how to answer it i just kind of did it on impulse because i was really drunk and high and i wanted to see what would happen if anything, i wasn't actually expecting results funny enough

got them though

with heroin it just was a matter of my ex fiancee and i were using together and our living situation was imploding and the only way to get out without being homeless was to clean up, and she wasn't doing good (she attempted suicide, not the first time as a matter of fact she had been doing that since before i met her apparently and the first time i can recall her and i were 15) so i was worried she would die

so we locked ourselves in our apartment for a week and ate handfuls of benadryl and drank nyquil to take the edge off the withdrawal and just suffered through it, then we moved and it was over

i've admittedly used opiates 4 or 5 times since quitting heroin (oxys and vicodin) but it's been sporadic just once here and there

opium addiction was a past life issue yeah, including in that life in rome, always fun to be able to reflect on past life failures as you're currently ******* up the same way

i can distinctly remember a point where i actually was crying while i was using heroin and feeling like such a **** up thinking about other lives and being there with it (and i'm not one for crying so it was a really ****** day)

it's my favorite drug, hands down, nothing will ever replace it and apparently i can say that beyond any doubt but that's why i have to stay away, pain killers aren't as strong so i can handle myself better with them

i'm not entirely sure how i've never gone through withdrawal from alcohol i've gone on binges where i've drank daily all day for months and then just stopped no problem because i got tired of drinking

i do this thing sometimes where i like to be sober because i've been high or drunk so long that being sober feels like an altered state of mind (i'm aware of how ****** that sounds)

it was partially pain, partially availability (i was getting a lot of free heroin), partially that i already issues with opiates pre-chronic health issues i'd have binges here and there since i was a teenager but i always got my **** together

the thing with heroin is it's so addictive you **** up a 3 day rule once and you're going through withdrawal, but the first couple of times withdrawal isn't too bad so you tell yourself you can deal with it if you need to and then before you know it you're using to just not feel sick because you're not even necessarily getting high

i would use other **** to get high and heroin to not feel withdrawal at points

i've never had a song hit me vibrationally like that one did, so i can't even compare it to anything

with the witch i found that i didn't like her as much as i did initially due to the occult ties, as things went on and she'd start fighting with me over weird **** (i got yelled at for being "too calm" before)

with my ex fiancee it's complicated, we're still friends and sometimes she implies she wants some kind of future but i'm not sure what i want there a lot would need to change because she just has too many issues and i can't do the roller coaster ****

how much older?

i can lucid autwrite, i have it's happened recently and i ignored it actually and regret that because if i trusted it then i could've avoided a really ****** up date with this guy

there's a long story there, i guess i was testing divination and pushing fate and i shouldn't have because i was impatient about other **** so i figured "maybe it's wrong?" and no

it was a matter about feeling very impatient about other things that were coming up and feeling like maybe it just wasn't working anymore

i've used incense for **** but if you mean staring at smoke that's another one that brings up bad past life memories

i think things between the witch and i just needed to end right then so we could both move on with our lives, i think there was no way for us to really continue on given our individual situations and i know she was around to be a catalyst for the memories and **** anyway

everyone in my immediate family has an elemental void of some kind when it comes to personal placements (as far as i can tell, i have no birth time for my father or younger brother but if i had to guess their ascendants i'm assuming that still fits)

in vedic it's interesting because you can actually see repeating nakshatras

how long have you been digging btw?

edit: and it's cool, i got confused for a minute then realized it's probably that i'm used to using lahiri from when i learned some vedic astrology

guess we'll find out soon enough why we've ended up meeting on here and talking

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posted August 07, 2019 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ack, I don't want to interrupt, sorry - but I have discord, you can use it on the internet.

http://discordapp.com/

You can PM or voice chat on there. Whatever you're comfortable with.

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posted August 07, 2019 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 07, 2019 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ack, I don't want to interrupt, sorry - but I have discord, you can use it on the internet.

http://discordapp.com/

You can PM or voice chat on there. Whatever you're comfortable with.



Thank you Teasel. I didn't know that it was via website too.

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posted August 07, 2019 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Ack, I don't want to interrupt, sorry - but I have discord, you can use it on the internet.

http://discordapp.com/

You can PM or voice chat on there. Whatever you're comfortable with.


it's cool you didn't interrupt anything, thanks for mentioning that i forget you can use it in a browser i mostly use it on my phone

edit: you should get on there and talk to me about guns

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posted August 07, 2019 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:

My stellium in my chart (which next week will prob be worse, as it's Aqua trop energy) has been hugely hit with all these eclipses. The last one hit my DNA and Regulus which is the heart basically.
Been anguish so I can understand to some level. Please try to not get too into your intoxicating side if possible. Just trying to be supportive.

Glad we can chat, as I said it's fascinating what you've to share. I don't have the discord app you mentioned. I've heard of it though. Maybe there's a way I can
get it.



.. Dumuzi, I've been looking at your chart a bit so anything you might or might not already know, I'll place here.

because my account was set a bit off from yours, it might reflect 53m off if you observe in your own account.

Have you noticed
 your nodes are 0° aspects eith your asteroid Euphrates
Theres 20m32s  between your asteroids
  Rowan 4599   and  Ouijanquan (Ouija)  3089
You prob already knew, Rowan wood is used by witches.


I'd say there could be validation here as to why you like the occult- 
9th house
8991 Solidarity  (solitude)  28°12'31"
28766 Monge (monk)  28°47'53"
As well they both aspect your nodes! Monge by 1, Solidarity  by 0.

In comparison  your  Natal/drac 
Sun/Gal ctr cnj 0

(Still looking ..)


it's cool, i've been sober more often than not since it happened and time will tell where things go between her and i

we're friends right now and the distance feels right too

cards paint an interesting picture, but i don't see that currently i'm alright with just keeping it light and **** right now

sorry to hear things hit you hard, if you ever want to talk feel free

haven't noticed any of those asteroids that's interesting, thanks for pointing it out

funny i told my ex fiancee a long time ago when she asked what i'd be doing if we weren't together that i'd go see what being a monk was like though i'd make a terrible one i'm not at all into restriction of vices

i like incense, but i don't use it indoors ever because i have birds and their lungs can't handle things like that

have to be careful about things like cookware and candles etc when i smoke i go outside too there's garden space for occult ****

i'm open to whatever happens tbh, if something feels right in the moment then that's what i end up doing it works out as much as it doesn't lol

i don't think being over a decade older than me necessarily makes someone a hag i always assume that's a title reserved for the elderly

nakshatras are interesting, your moon one matters the most, usually people who can't relate to their vedic charts can still relate to and vouch for nakshatras

i'm bad with focus too, and neurological issues from seizures and whatnot haven't helped, but i get by and it sounds like you do too. i have a lot of trouble watching movies and tv now, my attention span for that is complete **** .

maybe interaction and time will jar your memory, you never know.

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i was mostly joking, considering my intial experiences were dionysus related i really doubt a life of restriction is in the cards for me lol

it is interesting that those are 9th house though, there's so many ******* asteroids though god damn

oh see i'm used to people using the word "crone" for that

i don't believe in karma entirely, especially given the past life memory experiences, i think if there was karma then there's a lot of people who wouldn't even kind of be ok in this life

then again i suppose it all comes down to what really is good or evil, considering there's no actual objective definition

they're not from opioids, my health issues aren't from drugs i'm sure drugs haven't necessarily helped but they're not at the root of any of it

i spent a lot of years being dismissive too, the witch she explained it to me like this: if you go your whole life with other people defining reality and the occult purposely doesn't fit into that definition (because it's purposefully obscured) then you'll ignore things you know are there because you're trying to grasp at an idea of sanity that doesn't exist

i'm paraphrasing but that's essentially what she meant

edit: btw birds have extremely delicate lungs because of the way they're built so they can fly so fumes and such are very toxic to them, also things like feeding them seeds isn't the best they need a lot of fresh fruit and vegetables and **** like that too

cooking for them from time to time comes with it along with them needing a lot of stimulation and all that

though budgies (the kind of parakeet i'm guessing you mean) are usually sick due to poor breeding so that can be hard even with really good care

i have one of those and a green cheek conure, the conure is really affectionate and knows tricks etc they both talk and beat box

i can't deal with animals with fur, maybe that's the virgo coming out but i can't stand having fur on everything feathers don't bother me though

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posted August 07, 2019 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dumuzi,
You seem rather occult inclined in your asteroids if you ask me.

I have to logoff a bit I'll reply soon as possible. I just updated ^^^ above .. your asteroid notes. Later when I get the chance to I'll examine if we have interesting additional aspects.

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posted August 07, 2019 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Dumuzi,
You seem rather occult inclined in your asteroids if you ask me.

I have to logoff a bit I'll reply soon as possible. I just updated ^^^ above .. your asteroid notes. Later when I get the chance to I'll examine if we have interesting additional aspects.


yeah there really seems to be that theme in my chart, matches my life

i really wonder how that's going to play out, hopefully it'll be interesting

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posted August 08, 2019 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Dumuzi,
Can that app work on a tablet or just phone?

What occult things have they said would be coming? I know of the 2020 celestial lineup of planets. Is this pt of what is coming up? Or something otherwise.
In your case are you feeling flexible re your new sol rtn and upcoming energies?
I wasn't sure, you seem nervous maybe?
The energies are like a cty fair, never know what is next. I mean bumpy ride. I'm on the rollercoaster.

Lol
Hope you are resting. I need to get some sleep. (I take awful care of me). Sleep well, with full recall. Hopefully I'll get that too. 🙈🙉🙊


it should work fine on a tablet

people think a lot is coming, it's a long story

im not sure what to make of my solar return, i'll find out when i live through it

i wouldnt say i was nervous more just restless, i feel like something is coming but i dont know what and currently feel pretty stuck like there arent any moves to make

i struggle when it comes to patience

i have concerns regarding occult matters because of the ways they've unfolded but i guess we'll see

i rarely dream, usually just lucid void, you should take better care of yourself

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posted August 08, 2019 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Dumuzi,
I got it DLed.
I'm #7568. Do you find me.
Or is invite needed?

my username and # on there are right under my username here you can just send a request i need a username to go with that number unless its the same as it is here

edit: i tried your username here with that number and sent a friend request and considering it worked i'm guessing i got you

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I don't talk much on there, but I sent one, too. #9726 I don't want to put the username in here, in case google picks it up quickly.

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