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SecretGeek
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posted February 05, 2020 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I’d almost be inclined to say the confusion started around the birth of my child in 2016 (May 20, 2016, 6:21a, Missoula, MT) when I started to shift away from that career in hopes of focusing on my role as a mother"


May 20th is when the transit Sun was on your natal North Node, Alcyone, and cusp.

And the transit NN/SN axis was on your natal Sun/Moon axis.

Also, transiting Neptune was moving through your 10th house.

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The current Neptune transit, is on your natal Moon in Pisces and still in the 10th house.

I have a Pisces Moon too.

Can you sense it?

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posted February 05, 2020 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In regards to whether you are following your destiny:

There's a difference in intuition (spiritual wisdom of the human spirit attached to the soul) and mental wisdom (of the mind in the soul).

I'd say follow your intuition if it conflicts with your mind.

Your human spirit (intuition) can be accessed through humility.

Your human spirit (intuition) cannot be accessed though pride.

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posted February 07, 2020 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NomadDeb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SecretGeek:
My father told me to always save 15% of every paycheck for rainy days.

Sound advice.

I'm looking for something in my chart that could indicate a path toward more clarity in the link between career and finances as well the relationships required therein. Is instability surmountable by some means?

Then there's the search for the same in my personal life. Is the revolving door of people because of choices I've made, some action I'm not taking or some force that's working in my life and I just need to keep on as best I have been to weather the storm?

Therein lies my confusion and what drives me to understand the forces in my chart that affect me.

As always, I appreciate the feedback and time.

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posted February 07, 2020 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I'm looking for something in my chart that could indicate a path toward more clarity in the link between career and finances as well the relationships required therein. Is instability surmountable by some means?"

Your 2nd house ruler (finances) is your Pisces Moon in the 10th (career) which is being transited by Neptune (confusion) right now.

That could explain your financial question.

I'm pretty sure you have to tap into your intuition because it'll take awhile for Neptune to pass.

The conscience (inside the human spirit) is a governor (regulates flow) for intuition (inside the human spirit).

The more clear a conscience is, the more intuition can flow.

To access your human spirit, practice humility (unselfishness).

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posted February 07, 2020 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Then there's the search for the same in my personal life. Is the revolving door of people because of choices I've made, some action I'm not taking or some force that's working in my life and I just need to keep on as best I have been to weather the storm?"


Your 7th house ruler (partnerships) is Jupiter (expansion) which is conjunct your natal Neptune (confusion).

Transiting Mars is in your 7th house, so you could be getting some sexual attractions, especially since your Eros asteroid is in there.

With all this confusion you are experiencing, I'd run the chart of the individual first.

That could lower risk.

I do before I'm with someone intimately.

I'd check their Juno out closely, for example.

I'd also make sure something major of theirs, is in harmonic aspect to my Venus.

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posted February 07, 2020 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"For decades I have experienced unexplained loss of vision."


The Iris asteroid (#10) is on your AC (12th by 36 minutes).

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SecretGeek
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posted February 07, 2020 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"...I likely have permanent nervous system damage..."


That sounds like Uranus influence.

Your Uranus is in the 6th opposite Chiron.

It's also parallel Neptune.

Your health issues might have to do with Chiron being in the 12th.

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NomadDeb
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posted February 24, 2020 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NomadDeb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SecretGeek:

Apologies for the slow response. I'm exploring these last points you've made. They're offering interesting and relevant insight...which always makes me want to dig a little deeper. I've got to spend a little more time with them yet to see where they send me. I just wanted to drop a note here to say thank you again for the time and thought put into your responses.

I'm still working the confusion and direction pieces. I see that Iris, Chiron, Alcyone, my AC and True Node are potentially working some confusion and lack of clarity into my path. Neptune and Uranus seem to be ill aspected to stronger parts of my chart, effectively limiting my ability to use my strengths to my advantage. It lends itself to the backwards responses I have internally and receive externally. It often feels as if I must come in through the back door at night to be on time for a front porch event in the morning.

I'll be back once I lift my head out of my research again! Well wishes!!

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posted February 24, 2020 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would look at asteroids in close to orb to personal points, such as the ASC and MC, and personal planets, rather than placement in houses for better info

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posted February 24, 2020 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NomadDeb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I would look at asteroids in close to orb to personal points, such as the ASC and MC, and personal planets, rather than placement in houses for better info


Oriental Mercury at 0 Virgo, Juno 1 Virgo, Vesta 2 Virgo, Sun 17 Virgo

AC 15 Gemini, Chiron 8 Gemini, True Node 0 Gemini

Lilith 0 Aries, Moon 17 Pisces, Pallas 12 Pisces

Like that Ami?

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posted February 24, 2020 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NomadDeb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also Mercury is about 3 degrees from IC. Wouldn't influence my Midheaven in an opposing way?

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posted February 24, 2020 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NomadDeb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SecretGeek:
"I’d almost be inclined to say the confusion started around the birth of my child in 2016 (May 20, 2016, 6:21a, Missoula, MT) when I started to shift away from that career in hopes of focusing on my role as a mother"


May 20th is when the transit Sun was on your natal North Node, Alcyone, and cusp.

And the transit NN/SN axis was on your natal Sun/Moon axis.

Also, transiting Neptune was moving through your 10th house.

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The current Neptune transit, is on your natal Moon in Pisces and still in the 10th house.

I have a Pisces Moon too.

Can you sense it?


I just saw this response...
I'm not familiar with calculating transits. So you're saying the sun was transiting my AC and other nearby aspects on the day of my son's birth?

Can you elaborate on these points:
"And the transit NN/SN axis was on your natal Sun/Moon axis.
Also, transiting Neptune was moving through your 10th house."

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NomadDeb
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posted February 24, 2020 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NomadDeb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SecretGeek:
In regards to whether you are following your destiny:

There's a difference in intuition (spiritual wisdom of the human spirit attached to the soul) and mental wisdom (of the mind in the soul).

I'd say follow your intuition if it conflicts with your mind.

Your human spirit (intuition) can be accessed through humility.

Your human spirit (intuition) cannot be accessed though pride.


Here's another serious point of confusion for me. Intuition is something I've been familiar with from childhood. It's something I thought was guiding my choices but I've come to see a pattern of ill-conceived actions....My intentions are right, my actions are grounded in the belief that I'm following intuition, the results are totally off center. I'm learning to balance self-esteem with humility, always trying to set aside pride for gratitude. But...again....confusion reigns here and I can't tell if I'm misleading myself or passing through a time of poorly aspected transits....

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posted February 25, 2020 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juno in Virgo. The commitment(Juno) to communicating truth,staying the course in being clear/concise & avoiding bias/prejudice (Virgo)

Vesta in Virgo. The sanctity(Vesta) of clarity (Virgo), the sacred nature(Vesta) of truth (Virgo), the sanctity of not being prejudice.

So when in the 4th, the above may apply to things such as emotional security/safety or sustenance.

In other words, this individual may be someone whose emotional security(IC) is linked to being given concise clear information or being told in detail what to do(Virg).

For them, they consider the clarity of the information they get(Virgo) as sacred(Vesta) or are the type to frantically search for more clarity if the information received is incomplete or vague.

If the information provides insight(4th)-in other words, the clarity in what is happening within etc. Virgo is very happy.

So happy infact, that such a person may frame those "truth" quotes,keep totems in their home or even tatooe sayings on their body etc. because those quotes, totems or sayings ring so much clarity within them. They are deemed SACRED or DIVINE (Vesta).

With Juno also there, there is commitment (Juno) shown perhaps through the initial home environment to communicate clarity and truth (Virgo).

One is loyal(Juno)to telling the truth, providing clarity and sees this as part in parcel of their own emotional security.

So if you wish to get this person angry or insecure, bury them with half-truths, innuendos and hyperboles. This will get them irritated and even furious. Not to mention spelling/grammar mistakes. Lol.

They are married(Juno) to clarity(Virgo). But not necessarily a Virgo. As I think that this is how Juno really works.

So even when they go literally "unmarried", they stay loyal(Juno) to telling the truth and providing clarity(Vir).

This is how they see themselves contributing or providing a service (Virgo) to humanity and the greater world(Sun).

It matters not whether they are an accountant or garbage collector. Ethics, truth telling and being honest is their mode of operating.

This is how they themselves were nurtured or are nurtured(Ic) i.e "Sweetheart. ALWAYS tell the truth." And thus consequently how they nurture others.

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posted February 25, 2020 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NomadDeb:
SecretGeek:

Apologies for the slow response. I'm exploring these last points you've made. They're offering interesting and relevant insight...which always makes me want to dig a little deeper. I've got to spend a little more time with them yet to see where they send me. I just wanted to drop a note here to say thank you again for the time and thought put into your responses.

I'm still working the confusion and direction pieces. I see that Iris, Chiron, Alcyone, my AC and True Node are potentially working some confusion and lack of clarity into my path. Neptune and Uranus seem to be ill aspected to stronger parts of my chart, effectively limiting my ability to use my strengths to my advantage. It lends itself to the backwards responses I have internally and receive externally. It often feels as if I must come in through the back door at night to be on time for a front porch event in the morning.

I'll be back once I lift my head out of my research again! Well wishes!!


Thank-you NomadDeb. No worries.

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posted February 25, 2020 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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