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Aries23Degrees
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posted February 25, 2020 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And the idea that the sign that it resides in ,literally means the person whom you are likely to marry.

In my case its in Aries. It forms an opposition to the Mars/Pluto midpoint. Not a pretty place to be in. Plus it's in the 1st house of Aries.

I don't see it as me getting married to an Aries. Or even getting married really. But more like I am loyal(Juno) to my own freedom to do what I want to do(Aries)

Loyal to my own impulses, loyal to my own path, loyal to my own identity etc. And perhaps the aspects of Mars/Pluto suggest the extent of my commitment to the above mentioned?

In other words, I will have to be violently (Mars) or even "deathly"(Pluto) removed from them i.e The saying "over my dead body" comes to mind here

So likewise

Juno in Taurus-loyal to your self esteem, loyal to your own self dependence (you refuse sugar mammas and papas) or self sustenance. Married or not.

Juno in Gemini-loyal to your own curiosity and wanting to discover things, loyal to your own judgement calls, loyal to your own deductive reasoning.

Juno in Cancer-Loyal to your own emotions, loyal to your perception of internal well-being, committed to what brings you comfort and emotional safety etc.

And on and on it goes. What do you all think?

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posted February 25, 2020 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine falls in Scorpio, conjuncts my ASC almost exactly, loyal to my looks I guess, yeah, would say body, but I've been a bjtcg to my body at times, and it's still been like a loyal wife to me who stays married to her hubby even if he has cheated on her 10 times in a row( * knocks on wood..) :s I feel guilty about it sometimes, lol

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posted February 25, 2020 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th House Juno in Cancer conjunct AC

(Juno also conjunct Alma. Noticing now that the asteroid “Hopi” is there as well— http://www.manataka.org/page2040.html )

l would agree with what you wrote and sum it up as “loyal to my universal existence”

Me thinks that the Juno ‘marriage concept’ requires synastry, another planet willing to [offer] ‘honor’ this degree of loyalty. hence, most likely Jupiter

@anony maybe you’re loyal to exhibiting (AC) the destructive darkness?

The other Scorpio Juno woman I know cheats with taken men, thinks marriage-love is a lie, and makes her “sense of loyalty” known by proving so... but Ixion is conjunct her Juno «Ixion's strategy is DIVIDE ET IMPERA (divide and conquer), it must destroy existing concerns, clans, lobbies, lodges, clubs, factions, cabals, plots, allegiances, fraternities, cults, newsgroups, web sites, teams, alliances, trusts, blocks, interest groups; and from the resulting chaos choose and pick his own few good men to form it's own enterprise, not without bitter struggle and a sword hanging over it's own head.»

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posted February 25, 2020 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Juno is at the Aries Point.

It's at least sex__tile to my Aqua Jupiter.

I refuse to be in a relationship with a woman with a low sex drive.

It could be something like medicine she takes, etc.

Better to be honest in all ways and be celibate.

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posted February 26, 2020 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Mine falls in Scorpio, conjuncts my ASC almost exactly, loyal to my looks I guess, yeah, would say body, but I've been a bjtcg to my body at times, and it's still been like a loyal wife to me who stays married to her hubby even if he has cheated on her 10 times in a row( * knocks on wood..) :s I feel guilty about it sometimes, lol

Loyal to your shadow self & accepting that which is "bad" as part and parcel of you.

Loyal to unearthing personal secrets or things that you may not be aware of. Constant self evaluation.

Loyal to intimately knowing oneself; what makes me tick? Who am I? What am I really about?

Scorpio energy seeks to know itself intimately and when evolved, seeks self mastery.

It is when it is not evolved or fearful that it seeks to overpower,manipulate or control others.

And so you are your own psychologist and are loyal to exploring the layered self as it is drawn out from one moment to another (Asc).

This may mean that there is often turbulence, death and crises that you will have to endure. Perhaps emotional pain, abandonment and even loss of people who are dear.

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posted February 26, 2020 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
12th House Juno in Cancer conjunct AC

l would agree with what you wrote and sum it up as “loyal to my universal existence”

Me thinks that the Juno ‘marriage concept’ requires synastry, another planet willing to [offer] ‘honor’ this degree of loyalty. hence, most likely Jupiter


Jupiter does not know loyalty. Except perhaps to its own desires. Jupiter(Zeus) was a philanderer. And unabashedly so.

Hera.or Juno was the loyal wife. She wasn't necessarily loyal because of how she felt for Jupiter.But because of what the union between she and Jupiter meant for her. She is about keeping her word.

Her anger at all of Jupiter's conquest is more to do(well atleast in my opinion) the dishonoring of the vow, not keeping ones word etc. To not honor an agreement and stay faithful to its terms.

Juno in Cancer(the possible 2nd home of Juno with Taurus being the 1st) is loyal to ones own feelings, loyal to ones own intuition, loyal to caring for the things one sees as emotional security, loyal to ones sense of community, loyal to ones sense of connection to another etc.

When in the 12th- Staying loyal to messages from the greater universe, staying true to the teachings of spiritual guides, staying loyal to spending time alone, staying loyal to the principles of non-judgement and forgiveness, staying true to the ideal that "we are all one".

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posted February 26, 2020 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
My Juno is at the Aries Point.

It's at least sex__tile to my Aqua Jupiter.

I refuse to be in a relationship with a woman with a low sex drive.

It could be something like medicine she takes, etc.

Better to be honest in all ways and be celibate.


Juno in Aries like me . What house is it in? I don't see Juno in Aries as the type to follow anyone or do what others expect at all (add to that Juno in Aqua).

I see you have Jup in Aqua too in sextile and so you don't base your morals on convention. You think in progressive ways I.e just because it was done a certain way in the past, doesn't mean it still needs to be done the same way now.

My Juno trines my Jupiter in Sag/Sun in Sag and squares my Moon/Mercury/Mars T-square.

I take the square Moon to mean that my loyalty myself will constantly get in the way of emotional closeness or dependability to another.

Will I marry? Perhaps. But it must be with someone who is not offended that I want to go on my way and do my own thing. That I am loyal to my own impulses etc.

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posted February 26, 2020 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Loyal to your shadow self & accepting that which is "bad" as part and parcel of you.

Loyal to unearthing personal secrets or things that you may not be aware of. Constant self evaluation.

Loyal to intimately knowing oneself; what makes me tick? Who am I? What am I really about?

Scorpio energy seeks to know itself intimately and when evolved, seeks self mastery.

It is when it is not evolved or fearful that it seeks to overpower,manipulate or control others.

And so you are your own psychologist and are loyal to exploring the layered self as it is drawn out from one moment to another (Asc).

This may mean that there is often turbulence, death and crises that you will have to endure. Perhaps emotional pain, abandonment and even loss of people who are dear.


This is mind-blowing my homie! And I really 'means' it! :Thumbs up: for Aries23!

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posted February 26, 2020 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Juno in Aries like me . What house is it in? I don't see Juno in Aries as the type to follow anyone or do what others expect at all (add to that Juno in Aqua).

I see you have Jup in Aqua too in sextile and so you don't base your morals on convention. You think in progressive ways I.e just because it was done a certain way in the past, doesn't mean it still needs to be done the same way now.

My Juno trines my Jupiter in Sag/Sun in Sag and squares my Moon/Mercury/Mars T-square.

I take the square Moon to mean that my loyalty myself will constantly get in the way of emotional closeness or dependability to another.

Will I marry? Perhaps. But it must be with someone who is not offended that I want to go on my way and do my own thing. That I am loyal to my own impulses etc.



I don't know if those are accurate depictions of me.

I'm mostly conservative and not progressive.

While rectifying my chart, I spun the wheel and Juno landed in the 5th.

It's been there for a couple of months and seems to resonate, which would make me a Scorpio AC.

My Scorpio Siva is trine to my AP Juno.

Both my Juno and Siva are sensitive points relative to other women and both are bumped by my Jupiter.

In regards to Juno, I'm the leader type.

More like an Alpha male, like my Aries father.

He married a Sag (my mother) but I'm the only fire child out of many.

My mother's mother was a Sag also and my sons' mother is a Sag.

They're all late late Sags, though.

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posted February 26, 2020 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juno in Taurus, square MC and IC. I apparently also have Dejanira conjunct. I'm not in the mood to get into the second bit right now. It's at 17*Taurus, in my 7th house. Conjunct the moon in a composite I have with someone.

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posted February 26, 2020 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:

I don't know if those are accurate depictions of me.

I'm mostly conservative and not progressive.

While rectifying my chart, I spun the wheel and Juno landed in the 5th.

It's been there for a couple of months and seems to resonate, which would make me a Scorpio AC.

My Scorpio Siva is trine to my AP Juno.

Both my Juno and Siva are sensitive points relative to other women and both are bumped by my Jupiter.

In regards to Juno, I'm the leader type.

More like an Alpha male, like my Aries father.

He married a Sag (my mother) but I'm the only fire child out of many.

My mother's mother was a Sag also and my sons' mother is a Sag.

They're all late late Sags, though.


Is Juno in aspect to Saturn? Juno in Aries expresses itself with Mars drive I.e new frontiers and spearheading the way forward based off on self-driven motives.

If in the 5th as proposed, you are loyal to staying true to your inner child, staying true to your own creative spirit,never truly "growing up", being committed to recreational outlets,following your heart's desire , staying the course to self expression.

Juno in 5th for example could be the type to be told "grow up" or " you are just a little kid in a grown up body aren't you?".

In a relationship they prefer to keep the romance alive and stay on point when it comes to that. They may never lose their sense of "play".

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posted February 26, 2020 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Juno in Taurus, square MC and IC. I apparently also have Dejanira conjunct. I'm not in the mood to get into the second bit right now. It's at 17*Taurus, in my 7th house. Conjunct the moon in a composite I have with someone.

Taurus is a very loyal sign and I think it fits the nature of Juno well.I actually think Juno finds its home here( as well as in Cancer)

The 7th is the house where others reflect the self back to you.And when in Taurus,one tends to value(Tau) oneself through others(7th).

Or other people(7th)reflect back to you the level of your self esteem(Tau) i.e in this case, you really are the company you keep and depending on how well/badly those people connected to you treat you, that is where your self-worth is likely at.

So it is not unusual for Tau 7th to be possessive of relationships. Especially those that have been durable(valuable) over time i.e "These people are MY friends.Not yours!" etc.

You may be loyal to contacts/friends or relationships,committed to mantaining steady and durable relations with others,loyal to building a solid rapport with others that can stand the test of many years,loyal to creating valuable/ meaningful relationships with others.

It is not easy for someone with Taurus in 7th to break ties.They can stay friends with people for years or hold on to a relationship indefinitely-even as it no longer serves them or has lost its value.

The severing of old ties due to differences of opinion or "loss" in the form of death /people moving away etc. Can be downright disorienting for those with Taurus in 7th. It's like their whole self "collapses".

I spent more time with Taurus Juno because as I said earlier,this is (in my humble opinion) the sign where Juno feels most at home in (barring Cancer).

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posted February 26, 2020 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
This is mind-blowing my homie! And I really 'means' it! for Aries23!

Thank you

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posted February 26, 2020 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Taurus is a very loyal sign and I think it fits the nature of Juno well.I actually think Juno finds its home here( as well as in Cancer)

The 7th is the house where others reflect the self back to you.And when in Taurus,one tends to value(Tau) oneself through others(7th).

Or other people(7th)reflect back to you the level of your self esteem(Tau) i.e in this case, you really are the company you keep and depending on how well/badly those people connected to you treat you, that is where your self-worth is likely at.

So it is not unusual for Tau 7th to be possessive of relationships. Especially those that have been durable(valuable) over time i.e "These people are MY friends.Not yours!" etc.

You may be loyal to contacts/friends or relationships,committed to mantaining steady and durable relations with others,loyal to building a solid rapport with others that can stand the test of many years,loyal to creating valuable/ meaningful relationships with others.

It is not easy for someone with Taurus in 7th to break ties.They can stay friends with people for years or hold on to a relationship indefinitely-even as it no longer serves them or has lost its value.

The severing of old ties due to differences of opinion or "loss" in the form of death /people moving away etc. Can be downright disorienting for those with Taurus in 7th. It's like their whole self "collapses".

I spent more time with Taurus Juno because as I said earlier,this is (in my humble opinion) the sign where Juno feels most at home in (barring Cancer).


Most of this is true. I was going to write more myself, but I’m feeling sick (I don’t think I’ll ever be able to eat normally, and it’s getting to me). I’m not possessive over friends, but I am very loyal. I will try to write more when my stomach isn’t upset.

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posted February 27, 2020 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
And the idea that the sign that it resides in ,literally means the person whom you are likely to marry.

I was just looking through Synastries of couples and found that not many have planets that match each others' Juno signs. However, It does describe the qualities we seek in a partner and the qualities we stand firm on.

E.g. I've Juno in Taurus 12H. I seek a loyal, dedicated partner who's dependable and I value material security (this is not to say that I seek a rich husband, no). I easily attract partners who are possessive and jealous.

The traits above are also qualities that I bring to the relationship so it goes both ways. I also have Sun in Taurus 12H so these qualities are even more prominent.

My Juno also conjunct SN square MC. Not sure what that means.

For sure I've never been attracted to anyone with Taurus planets. I even remember a Taurus guy who chased me for years but I kept rejecting him, so I believe the Juno sign does not indicate who we partner, but rather the traits we seek and bring to the relationship ourselves.

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posted February 27, 2020 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been tinking about the wider meaning of Juno sometimes... I've never had, and will never have, a romantic relationship (or a sexual one for that matter). Nor will I marry. So what does Juno mean for me? Society treats romantic love as something universal, but truth is it isn't. And the major heavenly bodies are supposed to represent universal archetypes... So I have a hard time accepting that Juno is just about marriage and romantic partnership. Loyalty is good Juno keyword though, that doesn't necessarily have to do with romance... so I like it!

I have Juno in Pisces, 5th house. Not aspecting any planets, only sextile PoF and Ceres.

Hmm... Loyalty to my own creative vision. Loyalty to my own spirituality. Committed to ideals of compassion and tolerance. Or something like that maybe...?

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posted February 27, 2020 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nadja:
I've been tinking about the wider meaning of Juno sometimes... I've never had, and will never have, a romantic relationship (or a sexual one for that matter). Nor will I marry. So what does Juno mean for me? Society treats romantic love as something universal, but truth is it isn't. And the major heavenly bodies are supposed to represent universal archetypes... So I have a hard time accepting that Juno is just about marriage and romantic partnership. Loyalty is good Juno keyword though, that doesn't necessarily have to do with romance... so I like it!

I have Juno in Pisces, 5th house. Not aspecting any planets, only sextile PoF and Ceres.

Hmm... Loyalty to my own creative vision. Loyalty to my own spirituality. Committed to ideals of compassion and tolerance. Or something like that maybe...?


Yes I agree with you. There is so much pressure to be romantically entangled with someone nowadays.

Juno has to represent more the that. Just like how Mars has to represent more than just sex. It must be deeper.

So yes, I agree that Juno in 5th is loyalty to creative ideas

With Pisces, I think of "Harry Potter" or an equally fascinating world of imagination and adventure.

Here the native could be committed (metaphorically) to staying a child/ playing for as long as they can. Never letting the imagination die and create worlds/characters of their own imaginings etc. The proverbial "Peter pan" syndrome.

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posted February 27, 2020 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

With Pisces, I think of "Harry Potter" or an equally fascinating world of imagination and adventure.

Here the native could be committed (metaphorically) to staying a child/ playing for as long as they can. Never letting the imagination die and create worlds/characters of their own imaginings etc. The proverbial "Peter pan" syndrome.


That's accurate for sure.

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posted February 27, 2020 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I was just looking through Synastries of couples and found that not many have planets that match each others' Juno signs. However, It does describe the qualities we seek in a partner and the qualities we stand firm on.

E.g. I've Juno in Taurus 12H. I seek a loyal, dedicated partner who's dependable and I value material security (this is not to say that I seek a rich husband, no). I easily attract partners who are possessive and jealous.

The traits above are also qualities that I bring to the relationship so it goes both ways. I also have Sun in Taurus 12H so these qualities are even more prominent.

My Juno also conjunct SN square MC. Not sure what that means.

For sure I've never been attracted to anyone with Taurus planets. I even remember a Taurus guy who chased me for years but I kept rejecting him, so I believe the Juno sign does not indicate who we partner, but rather the traits we seek and bring to the relationship ourselves.


There is some meeting place with Venus when Juno is in Taurus. Because of what I believe is sign's comfortability in both.

So on one hand Venus in Taurus tends to bring the stability, consistency and reliability etc. In partnerships.

Juno in Taurus is more of a commitment to self I.e in that " this is what I consider to be paired up with me.I am married/ committed to the principles that Taurus represents.

I am committed to cultivating peace,building a solid foundation, a healthy self esteem etc. This whether with others or single. Juno is the marriage to the self.

Juno in Virgo is committed to exercising a good work ethic or finding clarity of lige purpose to the self.

Juno in Sag is committed to understanding the overall bigger vision of things,a pervasive theme to it all that makes everything more connected to the whole etc.

Even Juno in Libra may not necessarily seek marriage.They will be committed to staying true to ties & honoring made agreements, being fair in dealings and getting to know how the self impacts others and vice versa etc.

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Juno in Sagittarius in 11th house, here!

Here's the aspects in my natal chart:
Saturn conjunction Juno orb +2°11'
Mercury trine Juno orb +4°15'
Sun trine Juno orb -5°17'
Pallas square Juno orb -2°59'
Ceres sextile Juno orb +2°13'
Juno sesqui-quadrate Vesta orb +0°29'
Juno bi-quintile North Node orb -0°27'
Venus quintile Juno orb -1°08'

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posted March 01, 2020 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First look at Juno in Sag conj Sat.

Jun in Sag suggests that you are committed (Juno)to finding the link to everything (Sag).

You are Loyal(Juno) to making sense of the bigger picture, looking at things from a "how does this fit in with the greater scheme of things"? (Sag) Etc.

Saturn though does have you steer clear and be skeptical of accepting things on theoretical value alone.

To you, the theory only sticks when it is tested against the backdrop of real-life, be grounded down to things that make sense to everyday life and enlighten people from a basic level of logic etc.

You don't like ideas/universal truths to remain in the world of "abstract" thinking etc.

So for instance LOA(Law of Attraction) is one example of connecting things and abstract universal truths i.e we are the cause of things happening to us -based on the feelings that we entertain etc. We then attract accordingly.

Now all this may sound very abstract for you. So the commitment you feel would be to break this down and understand it further I.e how is it that my emotional state affects my reality and what I attract? That's the Juno/Sat Sag part.

So you put this above philosophy(Sag)to the test(Sat) and notice that whenever you feel sad,you indeed do attract people who tell you of how bad their life has been, what woes they have gone through etc.

As they detail their story, you also notice how bleak your outlook becomes up to a point where you say "Life is so hard" etc.

If you catch yourself in the last point, you will indeed conclude that our emotional state does dictate reality. And you will happily preach the above philosophy and explain it succinctly to those who don't make the link, And this is because you have experimented with it and now can "walk" the "talk" etc.

In other words,you tend to internalize or marry(Juno) teachings or philosphies(Sag) when they are proved true in your reality (Sat).

When all this is happening in the 11th house, you may join/be committed to groups, friends who share your love of testing populist philosphy and even esoteric knowledge (Sag) for its earthly practical nature(Sat).

You may also find people who are good at explaining philosophy(Sag) in practical ways(Sat)as attractive would be friends/ acquaintances(11th).

You all may share the same commitment (Juno) in internalizing the practical(Sat) overall /overarching truth(Sag) of how things work.

Maybe that's why you are on Lindaland (11th) too?To fulfill this commitment (Juno) to finding out how the world/people work or what the bigger picture is all about(Sag) in a practical, sensible, relatable way(Sat) that is not clouded by scientific jargon or verbose?

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I have Juno in Aqua, 2nd house.
Conjunct Moon (orb 0°14'), trine Uranus (0°39').
Sensitive motherly independent friend?

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I have Juno in Aqua, 2nd house.
Conjunct Moon (orb 0°14'), trine Uranus (0°39').
Sensitive motherly independent friend?

Loyal to shared group ideals,loyal to "group" think.You may have your own individualistic ideas and so if someone /people share the same ideals,you are by default loyal to them too I.e you can form a society,a group or clique as a result of this.

Loyal to the avante garde, the eclectic, that which may not be part of "populist" society etc.Different type of music either from a bygone era or one that is futuristic/ underground.

Loyal to "progressive" beliefs(the definition of "progressive" being dependent on the person concerned)I.e extreme fascist ideas, Nazi ideals or dreams or a unified society under one ruler,LGBTQI activism or feminist groups etc.

Aqua in 2nd suggests connections/friends/ groups that form part in parcel of the natives sense of physical security & self-esteem.

In many ways,this placement is "you are the company you keep" as Aqu has no ego. The ego is reflected by the group/friends that one belongs to.

If Moon is there,this is even more so. The friends (Aqua) or associated people tend to provide emotional security(Moon).This is especially if the Mother was less than nurturing or dependable.

Often Aqua Moon consider their parents/mother more "friends" than parents. And so it's either the Mom was the native's best friend and provided the native with the emotional security as a result of being open/candid and (by some people's standards) blurring the lines of parent/child. Aqua breaks rules and does things their way.

Or the Mother was simply unreliable,erratic, changeable and perhaps(at worst) suffering from some neurotic disorder or mental issue that made her incapable of taking care of the child.

As a result,the Moon in Aqua can be raised by the larger group i.e the friends/ foster homes/gangs or even local community(Aqua) etc. As they play makeshift Mom(Moon).

They provide the nurturing & in this case with the Moon in the 2nd house,the physical structure(2nd)that the native needs.

This is quite a loaded placement & very layered.So it would be wise for the Aqua 2nd house Moon individual to realise that if they keep the wrong company,they may be loyal (Juno) to those that may have them land up in prison or dead .

Aqua in 2nd suggests self esteem issues (Saturn ruled) and may carry over to them choosing the wrong company in a desperate attempt to improve how they feel about themselves e.g.join a gang or be part of the popular kids who terrorize other kids(if the native's self esteem is low).

Fraternities,Gangs,Sororities,Sports teams, Clubs,Associations,Fan groups, mass protest groups,Political parties,Religious groups (Christian or Islamic) -including those that are termed outright 'extremists' etc. Are all Aqua ruled.

In these groups, there is a "ride or die" or "injury to one is injury to all" mentality that speaks of fierce loyalty-more so when when Juno/Sun/Mars/Pluto Moon is involved.

If you watch Prison shows,you'll understand what I mean by "groupthink" & shared beliefs. It's ironically very hard to be a hermit (Pisces) in prison.This despite Pisces/Nep /12th popularized as affilliated with prisons.

In my view, prison is generically ruled by Aqua.But solitary confinement or prisons where prisoners have their own cell and limited time in socializing with each other etc, that's more in keeping with Pisces energy.

#if you have strong Aqua energy, you will find it hard to remove yourself with what is happening with humanity as a whole.

Perhaps even not involving yourself with the "mundane" aspects of individual living of rearing kids, having a house, eating jello on a Sunday etc.

Aqua has Pisces as 2nd house of security & so it's security comes from being of service to the world and belonging to NOBODY on one hand .But EVERYBODY on the other.

This is because the mind & attention(3rd) is on activist mode(Aries). They are angered by how much the world needs to evolve & progress.

With 5th house in Gemini,they are preoccupied with ideas and many thoughts that they wish to communicate.

So With Taurus on the IC, they may not make the greatest Mom or Dad to their kids. The security of the home takes years to build.

And that is because no sooner have they tried to settle down and start building,their thoughts travel to a foreign land(Libra 9th inconjunct Ic) because of some injustice or equality issue etc.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Jun in Sag suggests that you are committed (Juno)to finding the link to everything (Sag).

You are Loyal(Juno) to making sense of the bigger picture, looking at things from a "how does this fit in with the greater scheme of things"? (Sag) Etc.

Saturn though does have you steer clear and be skeptical of accepting things on theoretical value alone.

To you, the theory only sticks when it is tested against the backdrop of real-life, be grounded down to things that make sense to everyday life and enlighten people from a basic level of logic etc.

You all may share the same commitment (Juno) in internalizing the practical(Sat) overall /overarching truth(Sag) of how things work.

Maybe that's why you are on Lindaland (11th) too?To fulfill this commitment (Juno) to finding out how the world/people work or what the bigger picture is all about(Sag) in a practical, sensible, relatable way(Sat) that is not clouded by scientific jargon or verbose?


Aries, thank you! It fits me to a T.
And yes this is why I am here I reckon.
I find lots of things in astrology that apply to people I know and since I am here I keep learning and I love it, I see practical applications of what I learn almost daily, this fulfills me.

I like theorizing but I WANT to see it in action.
I'd love to do this in a group, and in fact my astrological posse is Lindaland

What do you think of my other Juno aspects?

I find that the Sun trine Juno gives a girlish charm. People like me because I'm "cute" and look younger than I am.

The quintile with Venus makes me very curious, I can't fathom how it plays out.

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Originally posted by LeoSagRisingTaurusMoon:
Aries, thank you! It fits me to a T.
And yes this is why I am here I reckon.
I find lots of things in astrology that apply to people I know and since I am here I keep learning and I love it, I see practical applications of what I learn almost daily, this fulfills me.

I like theorizing but I WANT to see it in action.
I'd love to do this in a group, and in fact my astrological posse is Lindaland

What do you think of my other Juno aspects?

I find that the Sun trine Juno gives a girlish charm. People like me because I'm "cute" and look younger than I am.

The quintile with Venus makes me very curious, I can't fathom how it plays out.


The meaning of Juno stays consistent throughout.The other aspects may "agree" or "disagree" with it.

So for instance the trine is "agreeable " whilst I am less certain about the Quintile.

You need to mesh it all together i.e my Juno trines my Sun and opposes Pluto/Mars midpoint in the 7th.

My commitment to my own impulses compromise my relationships. I can act unilaterally to undermine commitments.So that means I stay true to myself-regardless of the person I am with.

I also have the square to Moon. And this further extends that I can dismiss emotional support to stay true to what I believe.

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