posted August 29, 2021 10:56 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
@LovelyAries...

looking at your chart we would get along well as friends I think! . I have often wondered if we are attracted to certain threads and posts online based on the synastry...

anyway, I would start with one or two asteroids and go in depth. With you, you could start with Venus conjunct Apollo in 8th, Taurus. It's a wide conjunction, so you may not feel this strongly but Venus is your chart ruler so it may be a little stronger than you'd think. Apollo is a healer, connected to medicine, light, and the arts... do you use any of this or find an appreciation for this? I would think these things resonate deeply with you and can be very healing for you as an individual?

But I would also look at your Mars conjunct Sappho, 3rd house Cap simply bcs it's the top of your beautiful kite! You have a strong chart without adding asteroids, especially with Cancer Moon trine Pluto and Jupiter. I feel like this is a real powerhouse for you! And though the asteroids are there, they are not super tight so I think they don't influence your natural chart strengths any additionally. That is to say, I think your chart is very strong and influential without asteroids!

And PS Here's to you finding your future husband!!!!!

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Awe thank you!! I deeply appreciate the compliment & positive vibes. You rock.

My Water Grand Trine (in the Fire Houses) is definitely one of my favorites within my chart. I also enjoying having the contrast of light & charming Libra ASC along with the dark juiciness of Pluto 1H. It gives me layers!

^^Again, that's why I love the Persephone & Hades story. I *feel* them within me. I'm curious though which asteroid aspects you are referring to as wide? Many are tight. My Pallas-MC conjunction is exact. Moon-Strenia, Vesta-Jupiter & Sappho-Mars are just 1° apart.

posted August 30, 2021 06:54 AM            

Persephone is the queen, after she rises from the depths. And obviously Hades is the darkness, Pluto. So it's a powerful story with those two. And maybe with Persephone on your ASC you radiate this queendom, this power, as if you will not be held down? this is what Persephone is to me. I would imagine regal bearing, maybe the way you hold yourself, discerning, wise... and power, even if it's quiet power.

posted August 30, 2021 09:20 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
@Dumuzi

80% of my aspects are within 0-3° orb. No more than 5° overall.

I understand if you're not really into the topic of asteroids. But I definitely am. I'm aware that they aren't as major as our planet aspects are. I do feel they have impact though and can show a theme - at least in my chart.

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from my understanding 5 is too large of an orb for asteroids, i've seen 4 the widest and even that seems rather large to me

it's not that i'm "not into it" it's that there isn't much backing in a structure sense to people's interpretations of these asteroids and how they function in a chart

there's little information to go on to make blanket assessments about the nature of these things or to really "teach" it becomes perspective and personal inclinations which can be problematic to fit within an actual system

it's not like the fixed stars which have a lot of classical research done on them and have more just fallen out of favor or the planets (particularly up to jupiter) that have been studied for a very long time as a result it's very much open to interpretation

like i said from an occult standpoint yes of course they have meaning, in the same way anything can

i could write a bunch of "nonsense" symbols on cards assign them meaning then use them for divination and they will work because they have meaning now and purpose etc but your initial question seemed to ask if it was unusual for so many asteroids to hit points on a chart

answer to that is no because there's so many asteroids it's impossible for anyone's chart to be unaffected on a large scale

as for the ones listed like i stated nearly all of them with the exception of hera and hekate hit points in my chart particularly if i drop my inclination to treat them as fixed stars (conjunctions mainly though fixed stars can be read for oppositions) and instead start including trines squares sextiles

they hit a lot of points on my chart (most orbs being within 0-2 unless otherwise specified as loose then 3-4), but do i share your goddess/siren interest? not at all tbh

while i do find religion and mythology interesting that interest is not tied to goddesses in particular on any level, while i can find them interesting enough to read and learn about i'm rather indifferent for the most part

my username is a reference to a big part of my area of interest because the occult presented itself to me through dionysus and other masks of what he represents, so from a personal standpoint i can't say those asteroids have affected me in that way yet all of them hit planets in my chart

does this make them meaningless? no, but it does mean that your interpretation isn't more universal

i think more universal applications being created and applied to asteroids can only come from sharing knowledge and making guesses etc which is why i respond to these topics when they come up and i have relevant placements

so is it an important topic? to a degree, and i participate to help people who study asteroids datamine an extra person for the sake of moving that potential knowledge forward

they're certainly capable of adding depth i'm sure, it's the degree of understanding that i'm unsure of and without a universal application this can be a bit hard (can't get there without these sorts of discussions though)

but this brings me back to my initial point which is yes i have a good deal of these asteroids hitting **** in my chart that's important however i can't relate to you, so how do we apply that to a greater meaning? is there one?

posted August 30, 2021 09:26 AM            

i have nessus conjunct sun (along with a bunch of other asteroids some listed here), i'm not an abusive person towards others particularly but i've experienced a good deal of abuse from others

the one person i do abuse would be myself in all honesty drug use suicide attempts etc yet a common interpretation of this asteroid is "the person must be an abuser" with very limited resources to verify or shoot those theories down

posted August 30, 2021 12:04 PM            

Suggestion?
LovelyAries, you might edit your OP
to include the link to your initial 'Hotdamn' thread started in Asteroid Astrology forum. You'll be able to have a linked collection on this topic, and a way to save any of the information people will give you on your Natal Chart.

Your initial introduction thread--
in Asteroid Astrology
"Well hotdam'! Is this typical for most?"
was posted on August 28, 2021 -- 08:09 AM
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/005241.html

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THIS is a different thread (similar title)
'transferred'
to Asteroid Astrology forum
from Astrology 2.0 forum.
. .
"Well hotdam Asteroids!" thread
posted August 28, 2021 -- 06:28 PM

{my italics}
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aha!! Just found your chart.
I was trying to write in the approximations on a blank page, and got confused.
You had Prosperina aspecting a different point-- from the list you included in the 'Beauty' Asteroids thread.
LINK to that
# Asteroid Astrology forum
Beauty/attraction/sexual asteroids conjunct planets NATAL
page 2 -- revival of a 2013 thread
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002259-2.html

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So, THANKS!! I'm a visual person.
Do better with graphics.
Will provide me with an easier look at your chart.

Stonemoon -- I still have a copy of your chart from a long time ago.
You're having your Mars Return today!
Hope it brings you good opportunities.

posted August 30, 2021 12:31 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Page 2 already! And so it grows...

Suggestion?
LovelyAries, you might edit your OP
to include the link to your initial 'Hotdamn' thread started in Asteroid Astrology forum. You'll be able to have a linked collection on this topic, and a way to save any of the information people will give you on your Natal Chart.

Your initial introduction thread--
in Asteroid Astrology
"[b]Well hotdam'! Is this typical for most?"
was posted on August 28, 2021 -- 08:09 AM
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/005241.html

__
THIS is a different thread (similar title)
'transferred'
to Asteroid Astrology forum
from Astrology 2.0 forum.
. .
"Well hotdam Asteroids!" thread
posted August 28, 2021 -- 06:28 PM

{my italics}
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aha!! Just found your chart.
I was trying to write in the approximations on a blank page, and got confused.
You had Prosperina aspecting a different point-- from the list you included in the 'Beauty' Asteroids thread.
LINK to that
# Asteroid Astrology forum
Beauty/attraction/sexual asteroids conjunct planets NATAL
page 2 -- revival of a 2013 thread
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/002259-2.html

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So, THANKS!! I'm a visual person.
Do better with graphics.
Will provide me with an easier look at your chart.

Stonemoon -- I still have a copy of your chart from a long time ago.
You're having your Mars Return today!
Hope it brings you good opportunities.

(I'll be back)[/B]

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And we'll be on page 3 soon! We finally got some action going again.

I just edited my OP with your suggestion.

posted August 30, 2021 12:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

it's not that i'm "not into it" it's that there isn't much backing in a structure sense to people's interpretations of these asteroids and how they function in a chart.

but this brings me back to my initial point which is yes i have a good deal of these asteroids hitting **** in my chart that's important however i can't relate to you, so how do we apply that to a greater meaning? is there one?

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We're not going to get a "structure" of the asteroids if we don't explore it and discuss it. Now are we? And although we indeed have more backing with the study of the planets, you still have plenty of astrologers who give sh**ty interpretations of said planets & aspects! So it's our individual duty to do research and take in what truly *resonates* with us regardless. Rather than simply following a script.

Just because you aren't "into Goddesses like me" doesn't mean that we don't potentially share similar traits and/or overall themes in common. And NO - not *everyone's chart* is loaded with aspects to all of these Love & Beauty asteroids like ours are. Who else here has commented today with a list as long as yours or mine?? We DO NOT all share the same asteroid themes, house emphasis, signs or planetary aspects.

It seems you may be over-simplifying this because you don't truly believe in it. And if that's the case, that's totally fine. No one is forcing you to discuss this topic.

posted August 30, 2021 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
Lol, ok, will do. I'll wear a Toga, which stands for:
[b]Take
Off
Garbs
Agilely. [/B]

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N U D E

posted August 30, 2021 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
If you feel the story, maybe chase those asteroids for a bit? Really go deep and research them and see how, even metaphorically, they resonate with you?

Persephone is the queen, after she rises from the depths. And obviously Hades is the darkness, Pluto. So it's a powerful story with those two. And maybe with Persephone on your ASC you radiate this queendom, this power, as if you will not be held down? this is what Persephone is to me. I would imagine regal bearing, maybe the way you hold yourself, discerning, wise... and power, even if it's quiet power.

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Wow deep. This definitely resonates. I rose from the ashes during my teen years and have never been the same since! The woman I am today is mature & strong, powerful yet deeply feminine, intuitive, nurturing.

I'm glad to embody Persephone Rising. She is in 3° orb of my ASC and I feel that energy! Moving forward, I am perfectly comfortable with going up to that degree. And up to 5° if it fits an overall theme in my chart, as you said.

posted August 30, 2021 02:20 PM            

Well, you're definitely an Aries Sun--straight and directly to the point lol.

But sometimes the undressing part is part of the fun, sort of part of the foreplay.

posted August 30, 2021 02:30 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
We're not going to get a "structure" of the asteroids if we don't explore it and discuss it. Now are we? And although we indeed have more backing with the study of the planets, you still have plenty of astrologers who give sh**ty interpretations of said planets & aspects! So it's our individual duty to do research and take in what truly *resonates* with us regardless. Rather than simply following a script.

Just because you aren't "into Goddesses like me" doesn't mean that we don't potentially share similar traits and/or overall themes in common. And NO - not *everyone's chart* is loaded with aspects to all of these Love & Beauty asteroids like ours are. Who else here has commented today with a list as long as yours or mine?? We DO NOT all share the same asteroid themes, house emphasis, signs or planetary aspects.

It seems you may be over-simplifying this because you don't truly believe in it. And if that's the case, that's totally fine. No one is forcing you to discuss this topic.

But I created this post to interact with others who *DO* believe and can offer me some legit insight on my placements. I appreciate you being here but I prefer not to go in circles.

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i said multiple times in the post you're responding to that these sorts of discussions are necessary for knowledge about asteroids to become a thing 🤔 not sure why you're saying that to me as if i didn't make that point several times over

i never said it was about following a script, my point was simply that these existing systems are already complete as is and have a long history so the associations are more refined and solid which is something lacking here

well my point in saying that was to find the common points there, like "ok this must not be an indicator of that necessarily so where are the common points maybe we can find those"

as for the other thing my bad i misunderstood your initial question to mean "does everyone have asteroid aspects heavily in their chart" as a general thing (i also added one in particular in my list "mabella" i think 🤔 idk it's on my ascendent, someone mentioned it in a different thread on this topic that you personally may be interested in)

from an occult standpoint i can't say i "don't believe in it" like i stated for the reasons i stated it, as a matter of fact i was discussing their validity

i know no one is forcing me, and i wasn't exactly calling them stupid or anything

posted August 30, 2021 02:33 PM            

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posted August 30, 2021 03:35 PM            

It was coming across to me like you were uninterested in truly delving into the subject with me. And blowing off my questions with "everyone has this, so what's the point" energy. If that's not how you meant it, that's really good to know.

posted August 30, 2021 03:40 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:

Well, you're definitely an Aries Sun--straight and directly to the point lol.

But sometimes the undressing part is part of the fun, sort of part of the foreplay.

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Oh I respect the art of Foreplay! I was just being bold at the moment.

posted August 31, 2021 08:55 AM            

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Stonemoon -- I still have a copy of your chart from a long time ago.
You're having your Mars Return today!
Hope it brings you good opportunities.

(I'll be back)[/B]

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posted September 03, 2021 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
@LovelyAries I hear yah.

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posted September 05, 2021 11:29 AM            

Asteroid ON the Ascendant, that energy for example is sooo familiar to you, so much a part of you, that it's hard to discern it.

Pallas ON the MC can have SUCH a 'sense of Destiny' behind it.

So anyway....
I deal with DAILY torturous sessions (to my physical sensory nerve system) that I have not escaped and most-likely won't. I have no connections, nor money or family to come into my life and fish me out.
Oh well.

I wonder if I should just NOT join conversations (set up expectations) because I don't know from day to day if the *sonics* in my neighborhood is going to 'take me out' that day or not. I need recovery days after major parties. It's hard to predict the cycles when new persons come into the 'hood here. Anyway, it's painful and disconcerting. I visit a pain doc who gives me some mild pain-control pills. (I use those carefully. Doesn't make me high.) Nothing I can do about this situation. {Politicals have stripped the safety-nets that could have done something.} Some neighbors have come into knowing what it does to me, and they lowered their super-bass, or only play it for an hour rather than 4 hours at a time now. Next wall neighbor is a Band, and they practice at FULL volume, electronic drums!!!, for practice each week. They don't understand English well. Took another neighbor to 'explain' things to them. Got somewhat better.

Still. I'm so raw from daily agitation to the nerves that I feel a discouragement. I'm older (as you know). There's just nothing left to do, as circumstances in geographic place I live doesn't make me 'count'.
I stand things the best I can.
I feel awful that I can't sustain long in threads I chose to respond to.

By the way, I saw your thread on your Mother.
{{{ }}}
Right after I first answered your asteroid threads, that night, the memory of a thread we were in where you had lost your Mother came back to me--- It's like I felt it all over again. That really affected you! ...
And you ARE a 'Lovely' person.
I believe I've had a sense of HOW MUCH you are Loved by her.
Then, you did her Thread.
It's like confirmation.
I looked at her chart. She had had issues with her father? Gave her some deep subtle underlying self-esteem issues as a result? She might have even (for a short time as a teen) thought of taking her life. That comes with the territory of certain chart placements.

So. Just saying hello right now.
Explaining my come-and-go presence.

Much Love to You

posted September 05, 2021 02:55 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Are you big on Lilith synastry?

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I don't know anything about it tbh.

posted September 06, 2021 04:49 PM            

What you & Stone have said to me about going off of the 'feel' I get about certain asteroids, is proving to be correct as I explore. There's a reason WHY Persephone & Athena resonate with me. This sh*t gets deep! I'll be posting more about other asteroid placements and how they are sitting in my chart shortly.

I'll come back and fully answer your question in regards to my mom and grandfather in a little bit. You say you can feel how much she loved me?

posted September 08, 2021 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:

By the way, I saw your thread on your Mother.
{{{ }}}
Right after I first answered your asteroid threads, that night, the memory of a thread we were in where you had lost your Mother came back to me--- It's like I felt it all over again. That really affected you! ...
And you ARE a 'Lovely' person.
I believe I've had a sense of HOW MUCH you are Loved by her.
Then, you did her Thread.
It's like confirmation.
I looked at her chart. She had had issues with her father? Gave her some deep subtle underlying self-esteem issues as a result? She might have even (for a short time as a teen) thought of taking her life. That comes with the territory of certain chart placements.

So. Just saying hello right now.
Explaining my come-and-go presence.

Much Love to You

_________________
By the way, I think you were born with a Comet in your natal! Halley's Comet. You might want to research the effects of Comets in a natal birth chart.

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As for my mom's father, she loved him unconditionally and would rarely call him out. But it seems he definitely did do some damage to the self-esteem of not only my mother, but my aunts as well. I don't know all of the details but he was distant, detached and rather selfish. He was a good financial provider but didn't seem to care deeply about them *or* my grandmother (his wife). He treated the kids of his "mistress" better than his own!