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Faith
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posted October 12, 2016 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
Why is this legal?

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Modern interrogation is a study in human nature. Most of us are more likely to talk to people who appear to be like us. Once we start talking, it's hard for us to stop. Once we start telling the truth, it's harder to start lying. When a police officer tells us our fingerprints were found on the inside doorknob of a home that was robbed two days ago, we get nervous, even if we wore gloves the whole time we were inside.

With a few exceptions, the police are allowed to lie to a suspect to get him to confess. The belief is that an innocent person would never confess to a crime she didn't commit, even if she were confronted with false physical evidence of her involvement. Unfortunately, that's not always the case (more on false confessions in the next section), but it's a big part of the reason why the police are allowed to employ deceptive tactics in interrogation.

The psychological manipulation begins before the interrogator even opens his mouth. The physical layout of an interrogation room is designed to maximize a suspect's discomfort and sense of powerlessness from the moment he steps inside. The classic interrogation manual "Criminal Interrogation and Confessions" recommends a small, soundproof room with only three chairs (two for detectives, one for the suspect) and a desk, with nothing on the walls. This creates a sense of exposure, unfamiliarity and isolation, heightening the suspect's "get me out of here" sensation throughout the interrogation.

The manual also suggests that the suspect should be seated in an uncomfortable chair, out of reach of any controls like light switches or thermostats, furthering his discomfort and setting up a feeling of dependence. A one-way mirror is an ideal addition to the room, because it increases the suspect's anxiety and allows other detectives to watch the process and help the interrogator figure out which techniques are working and which aren't.



http://people.howstuffworks.com/police-interrogation1.htm

The wikipedia article shows how it gets even worse:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrogation

I've been trying to understand how plausible it is that people would make a confession and later say it was just coerced, and the result of mind-control. I was watching an interview this morning with a woman who was interrogated for nine hours before confessing a murder:
http://people.com/crime/melissa-calusinski-daycare-toddler-murder-jailhouse-inter view-appeal/

She explained that no one could understand what compels a person to lie and admit to guilt under pressure, even if they are innocent, unless they themselves have been interrogated.

Seems pretty likely that that could happen. Seems believable that some police don't care WHO they get to confess, they just want the case closed.

I mean if you are drugging the person, lying, intimidating, and torturing a person with the intention of getting them to say what you want, chances are you are going to win.

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posted October 12, 2016 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
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Compliant false confessions are given to escape a stressful situation, avoid punishment, or gain a promised or implied reward. An example is the setting of a police interrogation; these are often conducted in stark rooms with no windows or objects other than a table and two chairs. For suspects, the room becomes reality, and this creates serious mental exhaustion for the individual being questioned. After enough time suspects may confess to crimes they did not commit to escape what feels like a helpless situation. Interrogation techniques such as the Reid technique try to suggest to the suspect that they will experience a feeling of moral appeasement if they choose to confess. Material rewards like coffee or the cessation of the interrogation are also used to the same effect. People may also confess to a crime they did not commit as a form of plea bargaining to avoid a harsher sentence. People who are easily coerced score high on the Gudjonsson suggestibility scale.


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False confessions greatly undermine the due process rights of the individual who has confessed. As Justice Brennan noted in his dissent in Colorado v. Connelly,[8] "Our distrust for reliance on confessions is due, in part, to their decisive impact upon the adversarial process. Triers of fact accord confessions such heavy weight in their determinations that 'the introduction of a confession makes the other aspects of a trial in court superfluous, and the real trial, for all practical purposes, occurs when the confession is obtained.' No other class of evidence is so profoundly prejudicial. 'Thus the decision to confess before trial amounts in effect to a waiver of the right to require the state at trial to meet its heavy burden of proof.'"

Coerced false confessions have been used for directly political purposes. The systematic use of coerced confessions of political prisoners to extract public recantations for propaganda purposes has occurred in the twentieth (and twenty first) century in Stalin's Soviet Union, Maoist China, and most recently the Islamic Republic of Iran.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_confession

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posted October 12, 2016 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
Here, 70% of college students in a study succumb to interrogation tactics and confess to something they didn't do:

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According to the Innocence Project, approximately 25% of convicted criminals ultimately exonerated had, in fact, confessed to the crime.[4] In Canada, courts of law have recognized as valid confessions that were acquired, even though the interrogators lied by suggesting they had substantial evidence against a given suspect when in fact they did not, something known as the "bluff" technique.[5] The high pressure generated may push innocent individuals to produce a confession.[6]

A 2010 study from CUNY's John Jay College of Criminal Justice used laboratory experiments that test how the bluff technique correlates with confessions gained from innocent parties. Subjects were instructed to complete a task on a computer, then were falsely accused of a transgression such as crashing the computer or collaborating with a colleague to improve their task performance. Bluff evidence, false evidence, and unreliable witnesses were used to test their effect. In the first test, 60% of the subjects confessed to the experimenter to pressing a computer key they had been instructed to avoid when, in fact, they had not; an additional 10% admitted to pressing the key to a study observer. A second group that tested subject reactions to charges of cheating produced nearly identical percentages of false confessions. The authors note, "innocent people who stand accused believe that their innocence will become apparent to others ... which leads them to waive their Miranda right to silence and to an attorney."



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_confession

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posted October 12, 2016 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
We saw a film on that last night. Juries hear the false confessions, and that leads to a conviction 80 percent of the time, even with no evidence.

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posted October 12, 2016 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
They publicize the confessions before the trial.

I'm never going to read the news the same way again.

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posted October 13, 2016 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
People sometimes even believe they did it after being harshly interrogated for many hours.

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posted October 14, 2016 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
And they name others who then get arrested.

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posted October 14, 2016 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
And they name others who then get arrested.

Like this one:

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Pizza Hut murder (1988)[edit]
In 1988, Nancy DePriest was raped and murdered at the Pizza Hut where she worked in Austin, Texas. A coworker, Chris Ochoa, pleaded guilty to the murder. His friend, Richard Danziger, was convicted of the rape. Ochoa confessed to the murder, as well as implicating Danziger in the rape. It was later discovered that the confession had been coerced. The only forensic evidence linking Danziger to the crime scene was a single pubic hair found in the restaurant said to be consistent with his pubic hair type. Although semen evidence had been collected, no DNA analysis was performed at this time. Both men received life sentences. Years later a man by the name of Achim Marino began writing letters from prison claiming he was the actual murderer. The DNA was finally tested and it did indeed match with Marino. In 2001 Ochoa and Danziger were exonerated and released from prison after 12 years of incarceration. While in prison, Danziger had been severely beaten by other inmates and suffered permanent brain damage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_confession#Pizza_Hut_murder_.281988.29

They didn't even bother to test the DNA.

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posted October 14, 2016 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd        Reply w/Quote

there are techniques to actually imprint thoughts in others. this is a basic tool of black magic.

as a example of this ability, but not a example of using black magic, is a tale of edgar Cayce.
he has Saturn and mercury conjunct the node. mercury with the node gives telepathy.

when he was running a photo shop, he told his wife that a certain person who disliked him would come into the shop the next morning and then turn around and walk back out. Cayce made sure not to be present and the man came in to the photo shop, looked around and then left.
so Cayce had obvious psychically programmed this man to come to the photo shop in spite of his personal dislike of Cayce.
I give this example to show that mind control techniques are powerful and that all "secret police" now and before contempary times have been able to get people to say things that aren't true, even if it endangers them.

black magicians have manipulate civilization from the beginning.

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posted October 16, 2016 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
^

Things are so much more complicated and twisted than I ever thought, growing up.

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posted October 17, 2016 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
Yeah, you can't believe what the media says about supposed confessions.

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posted October 18, 2016 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
Tonight, we analyze the film.

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posted October 19, 2016 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
Wow, it was crazy!

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