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GypseeWind
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posted November 24, 2016 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone, my first time posting in this forum (I think!) Excuse me if this topic exists, I scanned briefly and didn't see a thread on it, but I didn't check the search engine..

Recently I've been led by synchronicity to discover The Mandela Effect. If you haven't heard of it, I invite you to google. Basically it's a situation where a very large group of people remember things (historical events, brand names and logos, song lyrics, TV shows, etc etc) one way, and the rest of the people remember it another way.
It's name is coined after Nelson Mandela, because of confusion regarding the date of his death (again, you can learn all that via google, if I were to explain every bit this would be hella long and I'm on a phone).

So one theory is that something cataclysmic happened to regular Earth, and we've been put somewhere while regular Earth is fixed. And this version of Earth has a slightly different twist on events. (One group of people insist JFK car during shooting was a 4 seater, but now you can only find images of a stretch limo, that's just ONE of the hundreds of Mandela effects).

Another theory is that is a psyop experiment to see how much they can really mess with our heads.

Others think that the people at CERN who've admitted to creating mini black holes have screwed with time. Maybe there's 2 time lines running rather concurrently and some people have become aware of it.

The religious groups believe it's the end of days, and that those who "remember" are of a higher vibration and will be soon raptured.

I have to say... at first I found it a bit amusing until bible passages changed. In no way am I a bible scholar but having went to Catholic school , and made to sit in mass every single day- you do pick up a thing or two.

Anyway, now my attention is completely absorbed with this. My family believe but they're like "meh, whatever happens, happens!" And I am looking for other souls to dialog with. Anyone here done research on this? What are your thoughts?

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PixieJane
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posted November 24, 2016 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I've researched this for my stories on alternate realities. In all seriousness, this fascinates me to no end, whether it's psychological or paranormal or whatever.

I'll see if I can find an amusing short story I came up with once back in 2008 that I playfully shared with other writers.

And I'll also share a creepy story of something that actually happened, though it's not exactly about the Mandela effect (though it is about memory). ETA: maybe later, I'm too tired to relate it now.

And I'm withdrawing the story for now. It was more for fun anyway. Again, maybe later.

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posted November 24, 2016 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(took the fiction story down)

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posted November 24, 2016 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Pixie, Happy Thanksgiving. I am looking forward to hearing more thoughts from you.

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posted November 25, 2016 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good stuff!

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posted November 28, 2016 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GypseeWind:

Recently I've been led by synchronicity to discover The Mandela Effect.

My thoughts on this:

I have seen numerous videos on Mandela effect, and quiet frankly I still haven't made up my mind what it is.

Logos - logos are updated every now and then as part of marketing re-branding so it's hard to tell if this is a mandela effect...eg. Hewlett-Packard logo has changed so many times in past 15 years that I lost count.
Brand names - still not sure on this one, as the only instances I saw are american brands... one would think if any timeline was at play they would change all over the world.... so I'm not convinced on this one either.
TV shows, Movie lines, Music lyrics - yep I noticed these myself, and wonder why these are most noticed.
Bible verses - this one I agree is confusing...
Interesting one is maps seem to be changing, and buildings that were not there are showing up our of nowhere, really weird stuff...

CERN - after researching the topic of Cern for a while now I dont think they are screwing with timelines... what they are doing is they are trying to harness interdimensionality, they are trying to create a Vortex - a shortcut between point A and B between two dimensions or two parallel universes... so not a timeline ... its to do with photons, atoms and frequency hence messing up with our heads. Considering all the satanic rituals that accompany cern, the gotthard tunnel, the sudden traffic at antarctica, ceremonies around pyramids, the FEMA camps, the underground bunkers for the elite etc etc I wonder what is the motivation behind it ...

Psyop - that's a definite, the more chaos in our heads the less we focus on what is really going on...or just a side effect of what they are doing

Rapture - I assume we are talking about the prophecy of book of revelations and the end of times, well that is a possibility given what CERN is doing, for if they open a Vortex to 4-5 D we will have uninvited 'guests' from hell or in more esoteric speak -lower dark entities unleashed, since vortex works both ways like a stargate.
In book of revelation it says that there will be much confusion and chaos on earth, and arrival of fallen angels before the final showdown.

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posted November 29, 2016 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 29, 2016 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Novabronte, have you seen that the skeletal system has also changed? I can link a video for that, if you are interested. I'm trying to get my friend to watch it, she's a nurse. I'm curious as to which skeleton she remembers from taking so many anatomy courses.

Re- CERN. there's a video on their website, CERNS, called, "We're Happy Here At CERN." It shows a bunch of CERN employees dancing around to Pharels song 'Happy.' At the end there is a scientist holding up 2 signs. One sign says 'MANDELA' and the other says 'BOND 1.'

What's interesting is that one of the Bond movies is a Mandela effect. The movie 'Moonraker.' I guess the character Dolly is remembered as wearing braces, but now you can't find that image of her anywhere. And the very first Bond actor, from way before our American series, had the first name of 'Nelson.'

So those two signs that scientist is holding up equal "Mandela Effect."

Yikes.

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posted November 30, 2016 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jacob Israel is suggesting the Mandela effect is caused by an A.I.
http://youtu.be/pML1_WilzUI

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posted November 30, 2016 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mandela Effect quiz
http://youtu.be/4IiAfyn0Yu0

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posted December 01, 2016 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Weird stuff.

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posted December 01, 2016 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed, Randall.

This one got to me, Rodin'S statue, The Thinker. I can overlook product changes, some logos, that sort of stuff.... but I cannot explain this.

I was in college in the early 2000s. On and off until 2005. I took nearly every Art and English course my school offered. And nearly all the PSYCH classes, minus the cognitive stuff because... well, it's boring. Lol. So I know this statue, we had the choice of trying to copy this, The Pieta, or The Statue of Liberty one Spring while working in charcoal. I REMEMBER.
.. http://youtu.be/Fns3U8z2qns

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posted December 02, 2016 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 02, 2016 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That odd story...

It was probably 2004 when this happened, but I'm not sure. Thing was, no one recalled earlier explanations on the reason for Desert Storm. I was even starting to wonder if I'd gone crazy but a librarian was able to pull the old TIME (or one like it) magazine out that listed the first reason (she'd forgotten it herself until she saw the cover).

While I was initially relieved, I then had to wonder why I was the only one to remember when everyone else forgot, and experienced the prickle of paranoia as I wondered if there was something to the more extreme mind control conspiracy theories, and if even then agents were coming for me...I laugh about those moments today, but I was momentarily distressed.

But I figured it out pretty fast (or the agents caught me, pick one ), and to make a long story short the original reason (and a handful that followed) were only played for a short while as most of America rejected those reasons until "liberating the Iraq people" was palatable and the White House started repeating that one over and over. Now this might not be enough, but the majority passively accepted their news on the TV, often after exhausted from work and/or on drugs (including legal and prescribed ones) at the time which easily puts them into a semi-hypnotic trance. As the earlier reasons weren't popular with the American people the White House kept changing it until "liberating the Iraqi people" was one Americans could get behind and so that reason was then played over and over, and Americans were literally hypnotized to believe that was the reason from the very start.

The reason it didn't effect me is because I didn't watch TV at all back then nor paid attention to "sound byte" news on the radio which is why I was among the few who remembered what so many around me had forgotten. I paid attention to the news at the library (in printed form and on the internet), and I thought about it, all of which made it stronger in my memory.

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posted December 02, 2016 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know that could turn into a whole series of stories, or how about a TV show. You know I would watch!

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posted December 10, 2016 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
explanation of the Mandela affect

blows my mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar_-ZhFZqSQ

A whistleblower admits to be one of the scientists generating the Mandela Effect. He is giving full disclosure, because he believes he will be dead in a few months.


this is really scary...in the video it is stated that time is being manipulated and one of the ways to see this is that nowadays the heart is said to be in the center of the chest but it had always been on the left side of the chest. it's position has been changed .it said check out a medical site.....it is correct, I always was taught the heart was on the left side but now.... http://www.newhealthadvisor.com/Where-Is-Your-Heart-Located.html

Where Is Your Heart Located?

It might be a shocker for some of you, but hearts isnít really located on the left side of your chest. It lies between the right and left lungs, in the middle of the chest and slightly towards the left of the breastbone

rahu

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posted December 11, 2016 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
they changed our heart place? O.o

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posted December 11, 2016 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, and also the ribs are now different.

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posted December 11, 2016 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But I'm not sure if I believe that scenario in this video. BC if we had nuclear war and this group of scientists went back in time and fixed it, then why doesn't everyone have symptoms of Mandela Effect? I'm on several boards and groups and there are people who vehemently swear that nothing has changed. I.e. heart has always been in center, Rodin'S statue haS always had his hand on chin, Jackie was always suspected in killing JFK, etc etc.

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posted December 11, 2016 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GypseeWind:
But I'm not sure if I believe that scenario in this video. BC if we had nuclear war and this group of scientists went back in time and fixed it, then why doesn't everyone have symptoms of Mandela Effect? I'm on several boards and groups and there are people who vehemently swear that nothing has changed. I.e. heart has always been in center, Rodin'S statue haS always had his hand on chin, Jackie was always suspected in killing JFK, etc etc.

I'm on several boards and groups and there are people who vehemently swear that nothing has changed. I.e. heart has always been in center,

his is crazy.the heart has always been on the left .

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posted December 12, 2016 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know, I argue with people every day.

That's the thing that's weird to me about the ME. Those that don't have it can get really nasty towards those that do, when we're just honestly telling how things were in our timeline.

I had an argument with a guy last night who says he's a musician and "he should know" that Queens song 'We Are The Champions' has never had the line "of the world" at the end. I told him to search for the car karaoke video with Gwen Stefani, she goes to sing that line, but looks confused when it's no longer there. The commenter was getting so annoyed, saying "IT'S NEVER BEEN THERE, YOU ARE CRAZY."
sigh...

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posted December 12, 2016 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My scifi friends have a sense of humor about this stuff.

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posted December 13, 2016 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an interesting discussion.
Not being familiar with the concept, I can't comment directly on the Mandela effect, however, I think this links to eyewitness testimony and memory.

For example, we know that memory degrades over time and that new information after an incident can change a person's recollection of the incident.
So I guess for this to link in, masses of people would need to receive the same new information and for this to alter their memory. Memories can also be distorted through leading questions in interviews, which, in part, is why there is such a focus on Socratic questioning in forensics and psychological therapies. Obviously, if there is an agenda, leading questions can be used as a tool of manipulation of memory.

The media would certainly be capable of achieving this, I would think. It could also happen in debates, interviews, presentations, meetings, etc.

Very interesting topic!

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posted December 13, 2016 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by todd:
explanation of the Mandela affect

blows my mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar_-ZhFZqSQ

A whistleblower admits to be one of the scientists generating the Mandela Effect. He is giving full disclosure, because he believes he will be dead in a few months.


this is really scary...in the video it is stated that time is being manipulated and one of the ways to see this is that nowadays the heart is said to be in the center of the chest but it had always been on the left side of the chest. it's position has been changed .it said check out a medical site.....it is correct, I always was taught the heart was on the left side but now.... http://www.newhealthadvisor.com/Where-Is-Your-Heart-Located.html

Where Is Your Heart Located?

It might be a shocker for some of you, but hearts isnít really located on the left side of your chest. It lies between the right and left lungs, in the middle of the chest and slightly towards the left of the breastbone

rahu


Oh my goodness! I just watched the video. I remember when I was young we all thought the heart was in the centre - in the "heart" of the chest - but we were *taught* that it is actually in the left of the chest.
----- I still remember getting used that the idea of the heart in the left, because the word "heart" made me think of the middle.

I just googled, and now they are saying it is in the centre again, after teaching me it was in the left!!!

This is REALLY weird. OK, I get what you guys are talking about now.

Surely though, if we can remember that the information is being changed, if we are retaining inofrmation from before they changed it, surely we can remember any extinction also? Even just fragments?

I'm trying to think about 2012, but I can't find anything notable. I was on a structured path from 2010 that simply carried on to 2014 - I can't note any interruption in that timeline at all.

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posted December 13, 2016 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a note. I was watching some other videos of the Mandela Effect on youtube. Many of the changes to logos could just simply be that companies re-brand anyway.

There is one that popped up frequently: that "We are the Champions" by Queen, no longer has "of the world" in the chorus, however, the first video I watched of this song, they do actually sing "of the world":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04854XqcfCY

I'm not saying there is nothing to this, I have no idea how to explain the Mandela memory change, the heart change or the JFK car change - these are puzzling indeed. I guess that we have to be discerning though with what we accept as evidence of deliberate manipulation of memory, as what this proposes is effectively mass mind control - a BIG assertion.

That, I may add, I am open to. What is politics and the monetary system, if not attempts to control the masses?

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