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chronicprincess
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posted September 25, 2001 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chronicprincess     Edit/Delete Message
Chandra

I agree with YIVY And, bless you for having the courage, and Love, enough to share what causes you so much pain I wish I could hug you ...sigh

Jools/Paul~ I think it is probably critical to *remember* those events that would prevent us from living fully happy. I believe the closer you can come to the truth, the more you will free (or free will?) yourself from this sad pain

The truth can hurt really bad sometimes, but when that pain subsides what is left in it's path is emotional freedom, and a heart full of sunshine, instead of fear, sadness or remorse

Remember sweetness, as they say, "there is nothing to fear but fear itself." And, fear resides in the *unknown* ...

~Princess

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posted September 25, 2001 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chandra     Edit/Delete Message
PRINCESS,
You are so kind
That's very true, "The truth will set you free". I'm working on it. Sometimes it's easier said that done, but I think I'm making progress.
Yivy,
you are right, I am making some progress, and because of this, I was able to post that message. And sharing this difficult thing helps even more. I just hope mabye someone might see it and perhaps it will help them too.
Love,

Chandra

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Randall
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posted September 25, 2001 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
All my Love to you, Chandra.

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posted September 26, 2001 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghost     Edit/Delete Message

i second that one randall , so is my love and light , it's all for you chandra dearest.

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chandra
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posted September 26, 2001 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chandra     Edit/Delete Message

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Chandra My God, I know how hard that must have been for you. Thank you Yep, know all about the physical pains (migraine headaches, searing stomach pains, etc) Not to mention the variety of 'Monsters' we have in our closet. I have an array of these things that beat me up from time to time, as does Paul, but we help each other through them. One of my biggies is/was the Money Monster... through dealing with it by talking a lot, crying a lot, feeling a lot of fear, etc. and having Paul here, I realised my connection and it's root with beating myself up with money. I never had any, was always in debt, would actually binge on money sometimes (like, I'd be really mean with myself and get money together then blow it all on some ridiculous things and be overdrawn at the bank). This felt comfortable to me... can you believe that? Paul helped me tremendously and now I don't have that one anymore... I had the Morning Monster... he was huge and black and lived in my tummy EVERY MORNING OF MY LIFE! I would shake and tremble and feel weak and drained for years, till I realised how to deal with it... Paul helped me to talk to 'it' and ask it what it wanted.... gradually, 'it' realised I was onto 'it' and once there was no point in being here anymore, it slunk off into the sunlight, where I sent it into exile (better into the light than into a dark cupboard, I say)!

Paul has helped me so much and I want to help him, so anything you guys can tell me will support us both...

Lunacrab: bless you darling for sharing your innermost. I know it is a precious gift you give us and I thank you from my heart and soul...

Love and light xxxxx Jools

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posted September 28, 2001 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chronicprincess     Edit/Delete Message
Jools~

Something told me to share two book titles with you... hoping you and Paul might read them, if you haven't already. If you can't find them, I'll send you mine.

One is called, CHILDREN'S PAST LIVES by Carol Bowman ... The other is MANY LIVES, MANY MASTERS by Brian L. Weiss - It has a companion book as well called PAST LIVES, PRESENT DREAMS ... I have them all so, let me know if I need to go the post office

~Princess

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posted September 29, 2001 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chandra     Edit/Delete Message
SUNJEWEL,
You and Paul are so lucky to have each other. I know together, you will make it.
:bheart
Love,
Chandra

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posted September 30, 2001 11:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Oh Princess thank you darling. I was asking like mad today for some help. Paul and me had a huge blast off last night, and again this morning... things are really awful today

I don't know what to do when it gets like this... I despair... I will see if I can get those books, but as we're supposed to be going on holiday this week (if we're still speaking!!!) I won't get time to search in town... if I can't get them, I will gladly ask for a loan of yours... bless your heart

Chandra I do so hope you're right. This morning, I couldn't see a way forward for us... Paul seems not to want to get any help at all but he keeps contradicting himself and saying he does, but can't trust anyone... oh, please send us your thoughts and prayers...

You know, at times like today and last night, when Paul gets in touch with the utter rage and blind hatred, it is so frightening, but more so for him, I believe. He tries so hard to keep a lid on it... and having no memory makes it so hard...

I really do need you guys right now...

Love and light, Jools xxx

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posted September 30, 2001 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chandra     Edit/Delete Message
SUNJEWEL,
I will say a prayer for you and Paul.
Perhaps one of the reasons he does not want to see is because mabye the person who abused him was someone he was supposed to have been able to trust, and the betrayal is too much for him. (Just a thought). I do hope he tries, because as painful as that might be, I'm sure this is worse.
Sending you lots of love and light.
Love,

Chandra

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posted October 01, 2001 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YIVY     Edit/Delete Message
SunJewel...I have tried to two days to get into this thread....so just now read your plea..

Dear Dear Jools...you and Paul have all the WHITE LIGHT I can send

GOD/DESS BLESS YOU BOTH!!!!!

Oh, I KNOW about the money thingy...
seems just when I think I am learning how to save WHAM I overwhelmed with the 'urge' to go buy something...usually something dumb or very un-needed. Although I am learning to not waste that 'urge' and go to the grocery store and stock up...Anyone need any creamed corn or cut snap bean, just yell

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posted October 01, 2001 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elizawhitworth     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Sunjewell

Been there done that with the spending binge it's a form of self harm like cutting yourself etc. and a sign of deep hurt.

The effects of childhood sexual abuse on society is incalcuable and MUST be addressed.

10% of abused children abuse as adults, 90% of adult abusers were abused as children.

I mainly assist people sexually abused by medical practitions and young adults that were abused in fostercare.

I always expect a miracle and sometimes get one.

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posted October 01, 2001 08:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Oh my dear friends... you have no idea how much this is helping me and Paul... God Bless you all Last night, he came home from work, and he'd calmed right down. I know our holiday this week (we fly out to Greece on Thursday) is so needed by both of us... I just so wish we could ALL be there somehow...

Chandra: you are so right about the abuser being someone close whom he ought to have been able to trust. God love him, his rage is so intense it makes me ache inside for his pain. But I know for sure (because of his symptoms) that it definitely was someone close to him... GRRRR

Yivy: Thank you darling for your support. The White Light is invaluable and is definitely surrounding us and the house. You are one powerful lady!!!

ElizaW: I am deeply touched by your words. I couldn't agree more with you that abuse must be stopped, and that it affects so many more people than we know about. My God, it's almost every other person I speak to these days, they've suffered some form of it...

I wish we lived nearer... but I know there will be an somewhere who can help my dear Paul. I keep asking for someone to come into our lives, but I guess he has to be ready first, eh?

Thank you again, for your words and kindness... and if anyone wishes to speak in confidence they can mail me and I swear with all my heart it will be in utter privacy...

Bless you all - and thank you

Jools xxx

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chronicprincess
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posted October 01, 2001 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chronicprincess     Edit/Delete Message
Oh Jools~ Yours and Paul holiday sounds wonderful... I know you will have a lovely time and come home feeling renewed and refreshed ... and if you do manage to have any *moments*, hey... what better place than in Greece to kiss and make-up?

I do hope you are able to get the books! I wish I had thought sooner to send them to you

~Princess

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posted October 02, 2001 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I have a friend who went to Greece. He told of many wonders.

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posted October 02, 2001 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YIVY     Edit/Delete Message
SunJewel...this is important. If for some reason you find or a stranger gives you some roses, take them. They are from APHRODITE. SHE will BLESS you two.

Keep them in a safe place where, when things get rough, you can hold them.

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Folks... I just had to share this piece of writing with you that I did a couple of weeks ago after reading some of David Icke's stuff about the Illuminati, and the Reptilian Agenda... it made me think more deeply about what abuse really is and where it comes from. It makes me feel this way:

It lurks, unseen, in the pit of my stomach, deep in the bowels of my body and although I can’t see it, I can feel it. I almost know what it looks like, though it has many faces and wears many masks. Sneering and leering like a slimy reptile, it broods…

It twists and writhes, causing a spasm of pain deep in my base chakra region, because one of it’s control mechanisms is Pain. Its favourite region in the human soul, is the base chakra. My back throbs like a gnawing toothache and in my colon/intestinal area, it feels like broken glass and lumps of sharp rocks… altogether a draining, tiring, weighing down feeling of despair.

The Sexual Abuse Monster is Reptilian in origin… cold, calculating, emotionless, self-seeking, insidious, controlling, manipulative and overpowering. It is more than a force or an energy – it is an actual entity. The Reptilians, for use in their Agenda, create this entity. It is seeded into the innocent consciousness of little ones, so that they are ‘groomed’ and made ready for perpetuating its evil deeds, once grown.

Its purpose is to overcome and to generate fear and isolation and, eventually, to dominate and control all.

It preys upon the innocent for they are easy victims. Innocence and naiveté are what it seeks out and feeds upon, and as it worms its way into pristine souls, it thrives upon the negative emotions it generates within its victims.

Isolation is one of its most useful prison keys. It will isolate its victim and plant the thoughts and feelings of complete aloneness, and whispers darkly that there is no point in telling anyone because they won’t be believed. It charms, like an oily slick of cold terror, mocking and taunting, teasing its victim into submission and helplessness… imitating goodness, a behaviour pattern that it has learned from aeons of observing the Human Race, and alternating rapidly with abject fear.

It can even slither away to attend to other victims, leaving you temporarily under the illusion that you are safe and can relax, but it leaves its stench to sting your nostrils and remind you that it will be back. Once it has entered your life its shadow haunts you and taunts you, sitting on your shoulder reminding you that Peace will always elude you…

There is only one Force and Entity more powerful and potent than the Reptilian Sexual Abuse Monster. Its adversary is called Love. The entity cannot survive Love because it has no information on the force of Love and how it works.

It is an exhausting and draining fight, Love over Reptilian, but it can be won. Only the pure in Heart will vanquish, because anyone who can be controlled or manipulated or tempted by anything that is not Love, will be defeated. It takes a mighty soul and a strong and willing heart to overcome this monster, but it can be overcome.

The monster can only survive in cold, wet darkness; it cannot survive warmth and light.

It is strong. It will try many times to slither in via another route, but if all routes inward are covered with Love and Light, this thing cannot enter.

It needs seeing and recognising for what it is. It does not need compassion and understanding, because these things are what it relies on for its existence and if compassion and understanding are given to its energy, it can continue to go about its business undetected. It must be seen as a totally separate entity from the human being/soul. It is NOT a part of us. It is a separate entity capable of shape shifting and changing form and integrating and imitating, and it knows exactly what it is doing and why.

It is the human soul and personality that needs the Love, for this monster will cease to exist in a warm and light environment, created by Love. If the incubator is Love, the Reptilian seed cannot be propagated. If the incubator (human/soul/vehicle) is cold, fearful and in darkness, the seeds become prolific.

The Reptilian is able to create hybrids, via genetic engineering and experimentation, that are half-human and half-reptile. This programme has been ongoing for thousands of years and it reaching its zenith. Notice how Genetic Modification and experimentation is being seeded into the consciousness of humankind right now. ‘They’ want us to become a race of genetically modified cell structures, because it will be easier for them to inter breed. The race is on for us to become Light Bodies and Light Beings. Cloning is Reptilian in origin. First genetic structure is engineered, and then cloning can begin in earnest, so that the Reptilian race can take over the planet.

I cannot stress enough that Love is ALL. Love is the only thing that will overcome this Agenda. Absence of fear and guilt, which are both Reptilian generated ‘emotions’ are what will cancel out this darkness.

Our only responsibility is to fill our hearts, minds and lives with Love. Pure, unadulterated, unconditional Love.

Love Is All…

© Jay Lauder, 2001

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posted October 02, 2001 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sahana_22     Edit/Delete Message
Chandra,Sunjewel/Paul
All my LOVE AND LIGHT to you s.
(((HUGE HUGS TO ALL OF YOU)))
Sexual Abuse is prevalent in India too. Specially child abuse is very common.Its only that very few have the courage to speak up. Right now a few organisations have come to help such abused children. One of them is CRY- an organisation dedicated to children.
I love all you courageous people who are fighting this horrible reptile. May god give you all the strength.


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posted October 02, 2001 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chandra     Edit/Delete Message
SUNJEWEL,
That's very intense. It is true, love overcomes all. It is magic. It transforms.

SAHANA,
You are so dear
I really feel sad for those who are suffering in India. It seems like it might be there like is was in rural Ohio when I grew up. Not alot of options for those who were suffering, and people didn't talk about these things.
Thank God for these organizations that have taken the lead and given help to others.

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I just got the chance to read this thread, let me say that my heart goes out fully to all those here who have gone through sexual abuse, or whose life has been touched by someone who they love and has lived through it.

I'm going to send an extra dose of love and light for you and Paul, Jools.

My prayers are for all of you tonight.

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posted October 03, 2001 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghost     Edit/Delete Message
countries premit this kind of behavore?

now all those doom prophecies gets the answer when we wonder why ha?

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posted October 03, 2001 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunacrab     Edit/Delete Message
Sunjewel, whats your e-mail address?

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YIVY
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posted October 03, 2001 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YIVY     Edit/Delete Message
OK, this goes back to the Reptile Monster. It is not something any therapist can help you with it must be done by you alone. And it does work with LOVE and LIGHT.

You can go back in time (in your mind...) and be with the child you were when the terrible things are happening. For this you have to be strong and brave. You will again experience the terror and pain this child is feeling. Now, you then have to connect with this child through the path of LIGHT.

You then surround this child with the shield of LOVE. You have to be someone to LOVE this child...no matter what. It won't erase the event, but what it will do is completely change who you are now.

The ability to LOVE itself that the child has lost will be returned to this child via you in the NOW. It is a bit tricky how this works, but IT WORKS. Nothing in your past will alter..but the NOW/FUTURE will.

I am not sure about the time factors and how they work...but the LOVE you give the child will suddenly boomarang to the adult you are NOW. It will be like accessing a buried program in your emotional make-up. It will activate it.

If it is done right..and you can do it again and again till it works...
you will feel a sudden (and painful) release...then a warm flow of LOVE throughout your being. The brave part is are you ready for the pain.

The pain is temporary...but it is one you can understand being an adult NOW instead of a child THEN.
The pain is likened unto the release of a painful leg cramp. Or the sudden blood flow into an unused muscle. IT WILL HURT!!

But then the flow of LOVE will be like nothing you have ever experienced. It will completely overwhelm you at first. It might even freeze you for a while, so don't plan on this when you need to be somewhere soon. Do it when you can be home for at least a day. The PAIN/RELEASE should happend quite soon after you come back to the present. But it might take a while, so be prepared.

When you go back to the child, completley LOVE that child...let this child know that no matter what the adult it became LOVES it. Do it in whatever way you can visualize that is comfortable for you...hugs, cry with it...bath it...it is your image.

It would be best to go to the very first encounter...but anyone will do. This child is you, but a child that has forgotten it is worthy of SELF-LOVE....you have to re-mind it.

Once you have found your child...surrounded it with LOVE...then seal this with the POWER
of LIGHT...the LIGHT will pierce the time differences.

Another side effect is that you will find the child within can truly be a child...so you might find sudden urges to play. Let it happen. You have healed both you THEN and you NOW. With a bridge of LIGHT and through the POWER of LOVE.

You have in effect...destroyed the power of the monster.


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posted October 04, 2001 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chandra     Edit/Delete Message
YIVY,
Thanks for posting that message. You've inspired me! I think it was something we all needed to hear.

Love,
Chandra

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posted October 04, 2001 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sahana_22     Edit/Delete Message
Very True Yivy


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