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26taurus
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posted January 11, 2005 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
I just candled my ears tonight. A friend told me about them, so I got some and tried it. They are supposed to treat/cure a wide variety of symtoms. Ear, sinus, lymphatic cuirculation, among many other things. Has anyone else done it? What do you think of them? Because I'm reading now, on the web, that they are a hoax. I've heard this before, but then there are other sources that swear by it. No spectacular changes happend to my hearing or anything, so I'm just wondering about anyone elses thoughts or experiences with them.

"Ear Candling," also known as auricular candling or coning, refers to various procedures that involve placing a cone-shaped device in the ear canal and supposedly extracting earwax and other impurities with the help of smoke or a burning wick. The origins of candling are obscure. Ancient Tibet, China, Egypt, the pre-Columbian Americas, and even the mythical city of Atlantis are cited as possible contributors. The procedures supposedly create a low-level vacuum that draws wax and other debris out of the ear canal.
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This "new" method of caring for our ears has been with us for thousands of years dating back to the ancient Chinese, Greeks, and Egyptians. Even our own native American Indian tribes used this procedure.

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miss_apples
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posted January 11, 2005 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for miss_apples     Edit/Delete Message
I have heard that ear candeling has worked wonders for people. If you really think about it, it makes sense. Of course clearing out all the impurities in your ear will make for a better ear, nose, and throat system. Also anytime you clear impurities anywhere in your body it helps you feel more spiritual. So I dont see why it would be a hoax.

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trillian
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posted January 11, 2005 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Well, the reason they are regarded as a possible hoax is that there is no proof that the candles actually do create a vacuum in the ear that extracts the wax.

I've done the ear wax candles. And yeah, afterwards when you cut open the used candle there's lots of gunk in there. But supposedly, that's just melted wax from the candle. I honestly don't know for sure. I've never noticed a big difference when using them. A good friend of mine was experiencing a lot of clogging in her ears and use of the candles did not help her.

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Ear Candling Is Ineffective

There is no scientific evidence to support the medicinal claims of heating of the ear canal and the creation of a suction effect, such as are made by practitioners of ear candling. Various research attempts in Canada, including research conducted by Health Canada’s Therapeutic Products Programme, has failed to demonstrate any significant heating or suction in the ear canal.



Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20020214104537/ht tp://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hpb-dgps/therapeut/zfiles/english/publicat/iyh_earcandling_e.html


Here's another fun article: http://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/showquestion.asp?faq=2&fldAuto=151

And this one is very good:

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Why Candling Can't Work
Since wax is sticky, the negative pressure needed to pull wax from the canal would have to be so powerful that it would rupture the eardrum in the process. However, candling produces no vacuum. Researchers who measured the pressure during candling of ear models found that no negative pressure was created. The same investigators candled eight ears and found that no ear wax was removed and candle wax was actually deposited in some of them! [3]

The notion that the ear canal is connected to structures beyond the eardrum is false. A review of a good anatomy book should dispel this notion. The external ear canal, with an intact eardrum, is not connected to the brain, the sinuses targeted by the procedure (those above your eyes), or the Eustacean tubes (the passageways between the internal ear and the back of the throat). While some claim that the eardrum is porous and quickly allows impurities to pass through, this is untrue. The "impurities" that appear in the collected wax (usually on a paper plate or other collecting device) are nothing more than the ashes from the burnt wick and wax of the cone itself.


The entire article is here: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/candling.html

But some people swear by them.


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26taurus
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posted January 11, 2005 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, that's what I mean. I didnt notice any significant changes either. And all that I'm reading about their inaffectiveness seems to feel true. And I did see alot of wax in there, that I do believe was just wax from the candle. Interesting that it didnt help your friend either. Hmmmm....? I'm getting a feeling that they dont work. I'll check out the links above. Thanks!

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angel_of_hope
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posted January 11, 2005 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
I have tried them before. I feel they do work. I noticed right away the suction effect created by them. I could feel the "stuff" moving from, i wanna say the upper part of my neck up thru my ear. It wasa very strange feeling. i dont believe its the wax from the candle itself as the gunk is completely a different color than the candle wax. I know the first tie my man did this they were not done properly, you have to make sure the candles a placed properly in the ear canal and that they remain in the same spot for the duration of the candleing. Or you will have very poor suction. My ears after having sucked all the crap out were very sensitive to cold and even sounds for the first couple days. I would put cotton balls in my ears when going outside due to the sensitivity. So in my opinion they do work. but that my opinion.

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tracysalome
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posted January 11, 2005 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tracysalome     Edit/Delete Message
Those scientific facts must not have taken heritage into consideration.. It is a proven fact that most white, black, and hispanic people have wet wax which is oily, sticky and tan colored, Most asian and native american people have dry wax, which is usually sticky, brittle, and gray.

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Philbird
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posted January 11, 2005 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
"Never put anything in your ear smaller than your elbow." J/K

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26taurus
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posted January 11, 2005 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird. What?? I had them lying around for awhile and was bored and though I'd give 'em a shot....or a light. My friend said they worked.

"Hey! why not stick something in my ear and light it on fire?" I will head your advice on measuring things I am about to put in my ears with my elbow. lol!

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26taurus
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posted January 11, 2005 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting ang. I thought I felt stuff moving too, but thought it couldve just been the smoke in my ears. Hmmmm....I'm still on the fence.

Although I had someone tell me that when he had an ear ache when he was younger, his grandfather would take pipe smoke and blow it in his ear and the ear ache would go away. *shrugs*

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Philbird
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posted January 11, 2005 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
I have this visual of you... trying to do this alone!!! I prefer peroxide. I bet Gia would have a fit if she were here!

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26taurus
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posted January 12, 2005 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
LMAO! You shouldve seen me lying on my bed with this flaming tube coming out of my ear, I wish I had a picture. But that wouldve been too much to do all at once. Candling my ears AND posing for photos at the same time. Youre supposed to have a "helper" when you do it, but you know me, I'm the lone wolf type. I still have both my ear drums and my bed didnt go up in flames, so I'm happy. But I bet I could still make a few dozen candles with the wax in my ears. ROFL. Kidding people, kidding. My ears are pristine.

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NeoKitty
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posted January 12, 2005 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeoKitty     Edit/Delete Message
Very funny guys

I just asked a collegue, and he has done it a few times, and swore by it!

I wont know until I try it, I normally use cotton buds, but my mum said they're no good. My mum says exactly what you've just said Philbird- and she was serious.

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26taurus
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posted January 12, 2005 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Wwo. I've never heard of using peroxide. I'll have to look into it. I dont even seem to have earwax. When I use Q-tips they come out clean.

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26taurus
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posted January 12, 2005 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird, you'd enjoy this. I was ROFL. This guy conducted an experiment to see if the candles really worked. Here is some of what he had to say. The whole thing is a riot, but I'll post a little here.
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_098.html

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Uh-huh. Not that I'd ever doubt the Teeming Millions, but I prefer to conduct my own experiments. Ear candling is the latest New Age fad, being to the 90s what colonic irrigation was to the 80s. Colonic irrigation was never a procedure I was inclined to investigate close up. But with ear candles I figured, how bad can it be?

Having rounded up a couple of MDs and a volunteer candlee , I went to my neighborhood new-age apothecary shop to buy ear candles. I discovered to my surprise that (1) they were 11 inches long--I'd assumed they were the size of a birthday candle--and (2) they cost $3.50 each. This gets you a hollow cone made of wax-impregnated cloth with a raw-materials cost of maybe ten cents, a profit margin that makes even ballpark hot dogs look like a deal.

Figuring that the MDs' medical education had probably been a little light in the ear-candling department, I also bought an ear-candling manual. In the "theory and research" section I read that "the low flame of the [ear candle] wick creates a slow vacuum which softens and pulls the old wax into the base of the candle." I had no idea what a slow vacuum was, but I was prepared to believe a candle might cause earwax to wick up. ROFL!
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[Candling] cleans the lymphs within this structure as well as the cochlear hairs themselves." Whew, too deep for me. But the manual did have pictures, so even dopes could do it right.
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Clark was a surgeon rather than an ear-nose-throat guy, but I meant to be prepared for any eventuality. Our subject was Pat, a 30-year-old male who'd had earwax removed via conventional medical treatment some years earlier.

First we peered into Pat's ears with an otoscope, the familiar flashlight-type examining device. The poor guy had enough wax in there to make his own candles. We put him on the table, lit the candle, and stuck it in his ear in the prescribed manner. Then we watched, struggling to suppress the thought that we should also be chanting and maybe sacrificing small animals. MAO!

When the candle had burned down to two inches we snuffed it and examined the treated ear with the otoscope. No change, except that possibly the wax was dented where the candle had been stuck in. Upon slicing open the candle stub, however, we found a considerable quantity of brown wax and whitish powder. The manual had the audacity to intimate that the powder was candida yeast extracted from the ear, conceding that possibly "1% to 10%" was from the used candle. The disappointed MDs were more inclined to say it was 100 percent, but just to be sure we burned another candle in the open air. When we sliced it open we found wax and powder identical to that in the first. Conclusion: it's a hoax. Ain't it always the way? Maybe we're not doing enemas anymore, but we're winding up with the same old stuff. LOL


(...okay, I ended up posting most of it.)

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monad
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posted January 12, 2005 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for monad     Edit/Delete Message
I had blocked ears once...
Anyway I poured a small amount of baby oil into one ear, lay down on my side so as the oil would have time to heat, for about
5 minutes.
I oiled my other ear, and lay on my other side, while the oil from my previous extraction ran out.
I did this 2 times.

'Wow' I said, my hearing having returned
to normal.

Dont know how safe it is though.

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Philbird
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posted January 12, 2005 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Geez, what are you guys doing to get all that ear wax anyway???

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26taurus
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posted January 12, 2005 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
...*busy molding a sculpure*

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26taurus
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posted January 13, 2005 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Ta-da!

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Nackie
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posted January 21, 2005 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nackie     Edit/Delete Message
I wouldn't use baby oil, as that is perfumed, but it is a common recipe to heat (lightly! do not boil, do not heat in the micro!) first grade olive oil and do that trick in the ear. It has always helped my son when he has an earache, but it was h*ll trying to get the oil into his ear as a little kid! lol

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