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Topic: hot flashes
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Bluemoon
Knowflake Posts: 471
From: Stafford, VA USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted April 18, 2005 09:44 AM
 
I have just gone off premerin. any good tips to get thru the mentalpause, symptons?lol, mentalpause, you do know I mean menapause. Thanks!  IP: Logged |
Philbird
Knowflake Posts: 2237
From: Here, there and everywhere.
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted April 18, 2005 12:01 PM
Don't know Bluemoon, but keep me posted. I'm only a couple of years behind you!
I've been accused of having perimentalpausel symptoms, but they only lasted two weeks.IP: Logged |
Bluemoon
Knowflake Posts: 471
From: Stafford, VA USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted April 18, 2005 01:03 PM
I am going off of premerin, so the Hot FLashes are Horrible. I had a total hystorectomy about 3 years ago. I just dont want to take the D*mn estrogen. I already have breast cancer in my family. maybe that is why I had the title of cancer. IP: Logged |
Philbird
Knowflake Posts: 2237
From: Here, there and everywhere.
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted April 18, 2005 03:08 PM
OUCH! Sorry to hear that. Can you take the pills PRN?IP: Logged |
Philbird
Knowflake Posts: 2237
From: Here, there and everywhere.
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted April 18, 2005 03:09 PM
Maybe you could post the question to Gia?IP: Logged |
Bluemoon
Knowflake Posts: 471
From: Stafford, VA USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted April 18, 2005 08:29 PM
good idea Phil! Thanks@ IP: Logged |
wildflwrs
Knowflake Posts: 208
From: Albuquerque
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted April 18, 2005 10:06 PM
There is a kinder gentler way. You can get micronized soy that is considered bio-identical....and considered a natural alternative. You have to have it prescribed and it is difficult to find a doctor or nurse practitioner that is knowledgable about it--but not impossible. I have found the nurse practitioners better than doctors. It had to be obtained from a compounding pharmacy. It is covered by some insurance but not all. And the gel that is "transdermal" (applied topically) is best because it doesn't go through your digestive tract. This has been recommended by Dr. Andrew Weil and others into natural remedies or alternatives. I had to experiment with the different types of estrogen and progesterone. For my needs just the estradiol works. But the nurse practioner said I really need to use some progesterone with it.  IP: Logged |
Bluemoon
Knowflake Posts: 471
From: Stafford, VA USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted April 19, 2005 09:49 AM
Thanks Wildflowers! I really want to say away from the estorgen. I have been on it for too long and I am concerned about breast cancer since it runs it the family. I will look in to it. I know a good nurse parctioner. IP: Logged |
wildflwrs
Knowflake Posts: 208
From: Albuquerque
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted April 19, 2005 04:26 PM
Your Welcome. Good luck to ya!IP: Logged |
angel_of_hope
Knowflake Posts: 405
From: Palmer, Alaska (the valley)
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted April 19, 2005 05:41 PM
BM - the thread in "Orange's and Hyacinths" may be of some intrest to you. IP: Logged |
Bluemoon
Knowflake Posts: 471
From: Stafford, VA USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted April 19, 2005 10:16 PM
Thanks Angel, I will check it out!!IP: Logged |
Gia
Moderator Posts: 1062
From: California
Registered: May 2004
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posted April 20, 2005 01:08 AM
Before you do anything at all get a saliva test done then you'll be sure what you need and we can advise you accordingly.  Gia IP: Logged |
Gia
Moderator Posts: 1062
From: California
Registered: May 2004
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posted April 20, 2005 02:30 PM
I think perhaps I should explain more fully that Estrogen ( Estradiol ) and Progesterone fully target these organs: UTERUS
VAGINA
BREASTS
BONES
KIDNEYS
LIVER
FALLOPIAN TUBES
OVARIES Estrogen can also elevate blood sugar in certain individuals whilst progesterone can increase the apetite and calm the nervous system. There are times when people think the need more Estrogen when they in fact have Estrogen dominance. At least three luteal defect patterns can lead to Estrogen dominance. Please ask your doctor for a expanded female hormone panel because it not only reveals your individual hormone imbalance, but indicates the basis of it. I like DIAGNOS TECHS INC. They do great test kits by post. go to www.diagnostechs.com for more info. I use a yam cream by the way and it's great. Gia IP: Logged |
Bluemoon
Knowflake Posts: 471
From: Stafford, VA USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted April 21, 2005 09:43 AM
Thanks so much, Gia! I really appreciate your input. I haven't got any female organs left. (well I do still have breast)lol. I have been throught some many surgerys I don't don't even want to get into it.
my concern, besides the menapause systoms, is the association of premerin and breast cancer. Thanks again!!!!!IP: Logged |
Gia
Moderator Posts: 1062
From: California
Registered: May 2004
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posted April 24, 2005 09:34 AM
I understand that but with artificial menopause if surgery is done before natural menopause, it can be quite different to the normal cycle. Please note not all hot flushes are due to estrogen depletion. They involve what we call the neuroendocrine system. Stress can cause them, hyperthyroidisim can cause them, diabetes can cause them, as well as alcohol. I think it's useful to know the level of your hormones before we can verify the best treatment. Which you may of course already know.Here are a couple of alternatives to discuss with your doctor or endocrine specialist. Non Hormonal There is a medication which is non hormonal called Dixitrit. It reduces hot flushes as it's a blood vessel constrictor. Not good if you are depressed or taking depression medications. I prefer and I use myself, a natural progesterone cream from wild yam. PROGEST. Natural progesterone is not the same as synthetic progesterone. The body can both understand and use it naturally because it's what we call a precursor molecule that can be naturally converted in the body to andgrogens. It really does work well to alleviate menopausal symptoms. It is better than soy and in my humble opinion much safer. Supplements Vitamin E natural form of course normally around 400 IU twice a day. Please make sure you take enough calcium and magnesium because lack of estrogen stops your body from absorbing enough. Essential fatty acids such as Primrose helps manufacture natural estrogens. Potassium to help heat and sweat control. Herbs Vitex Agnus Casti Berry available as a tincture from health stores. Black Cohosh, fennel and fenugreek. Do not use ant products containg sage if you have seizures of any kind. MENOCOM is a good herbal menopause complex. It contains all the herbs,vitamins and minerals you need. Please let me know how you get on as it helps others who may have similar symptoms. Gia IP: Logged |
Bluemoon
Knowflake Posts: 471
From: Stafford, VA USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted April 24, 2005 12:14 PM
Thanks so Much, Gia! I really appreciate it! I don't drink anymore, so it can't be the alcohol. lol.I am currenty without health insurance, so I will try the herbal supplement you suggested. I will let you know how it works. IP: Logged |
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